Thar coal mining project in Pakistan | Updates & Discussions.

[VCheng]

I think I will take the word of Dr.Samar Mubarak,a renowned scientist over any of the skeptics here. It takes years to completely make operational a project the size of Thar Coal.

I respect your choice, but will stick with mine too. The results, whenever they appear, will speak for themselves, right?

 

[a. hussain]

Aqeel Kareem Dhadi (AKD security) is Biggest broker of Stock market. He has invested a billions in purchasing a land in Thar.
Dhedi ghaatay ka suda nahin karta!

Guys going a bit tangent but want to raise some points i.e. Normally where there is Coal there are chances of Diamonds? Is there a possibility that in Thar there might be Diamond mines as well. Reason why Iam asking this question is that had noticed a small news clipping long time back (When Zardari used to be Mr. 10% during BB earlier destructive tenure) that a Diamond mine was discovered in Thar and at that time a very resourceful & most highest powerful authority was involved in acquiring the rights. Any news/ comments about it. Do share.

Thanks

 

[VCheng]

Any updates on the pilot project on Thar Coal Gasification?

 

[VCheng]

from: Test burn at Thar coal gasification project next month | Newspaper | DAWN.COM

KARACHI: The first test burn at the underground coal gasification project in Tharparkar is expected to be conducted in September while two foreign companies, one each from China and Australia, have expressed interest in Thar coal deposits to produce 2,000 megawatts of electricity.

Project chairman Dr Samar Mubarakmand informed the 13th meeting of the Thar Coal and Energy Board on Saturday that 100MW would be generated through block-V of the underground coal gasification process.

Dr Mubarakmand told the meeting, presided over by Sindh Chief Minister Qaim Ali Shah, that the first gasifier and civil works had been completed with the availability of $9.22 million for the project. The supply of compressors by Hitachi has been delayed because of earthquake and tsunami in Japan. The completion of the gasifier involved over 36,000 feet of drilling and 18,000 feet of steel-casing.

The gas to be produced through the first burn will be connected to power turbines and generation of the planned 100MW electricity will start by Dec 2013.

Zubair Motiwala, chairman of the Sindh Board of Investment, briefed the meeting about the international competitive bidding process. He said that block-I had been allocated to the Chinese company, Global Mining (CMG), which planned to develop five million tons of coalfield annually to produce 900MW and the generation would be gradually increased to 2,100MW.

The company is also willing to invest $1.5 billion in key infrastructure projects and the CMG chairman is expected to sign a memorandum of understanding with the provincial government on Aug 26.

The meeting was informed that Australian Continental Energy had submitted a proposal for mining six million tons of coal annually and increasing it to 18 million tons. The company intends to generate 1,100MW in five years, 2,000MW in 10 years and 3,000MW in 15 years.

The evaluation committee suggested that the Australian company might be offered block-IV on the condition that it would provide within two months a credible financing plan to the Sindh government. Khalid Mansoor, the CEO of Sindh Engro Coal Mining Company, told the meeting that substantial progress had been made for obtaining Chinese financing.

Asad Umar of Engro called for early finalisation of infrastructure projects to enable the company to reach financial close on its part of the project.

Irshad Arain of the NTDC informed the meeting that his organisation was working for dispersal of 1,200MW from Thar to upcountry by constructing 500kv transmission lines from the power plant to Matiari, along with the extension of Matiari gird station, by June 2014. The Rs20 billion project is being financed by the China Development Bank.

The chief minister said the provincial government was giving top priority to the issues about provision of infrastructure like water, roads, transmission network and effluent channel for Thar coalfields.

Federal Minister for Water and Power Syed Naveed Qamar assured the meeting that the government would provide support to all Thar-related projects.

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

Assalam alaikum

it was suppose to be in march or april or may , but still it is good if it happens in september

TARIQ

 

[gypgypgyp]

Actually it is quiet misleading information (I can't understand the video, but based on what I read from post)


First all, I did not found any JORC tag in article. So I have to doubt that is it RC drilled and who did the feasible study?

In mining industry, you need do RC drilling first to define the "resource", and then carry out feasible study, once the project show positive economic result, we can define "reserve". the word reserve mean you already very good understanding about the resource, and it is nearly bankable .


And there is some special aspect in coal mining industry.

coal is low priced fuel, its economy value largely depend on the quality of coal(like Kcal/ash/moisture) and the distance between mine and end-user.

At the current sea brone market situation, only Bituminous/Anthracite is valueble commodity. (SubBituminous level coal need consume a lot water to wash, so very few SubBituminous has economy value) Most coal exist in world do not have any value for use

 

[Uchiha]

I love rock and roll.

 

[Omar1984]

Thar coal project to be operational from Dec 2013


ISLAMABAD: Thar coal project will be operational from December 2013 that will bring prosperity in the country, said Dr Samar Mubarakmand member Science and Technology Planning Commission on Thursday.
Talking to a private news channel, he said Pakistan had enough coal reservoirs that could provide electricity to country for more than 500 years.

He said work on the projects was in progress and the first 50 megawatts (MW) gasified project has almost been completed.

The project to cost Rs 8.898 billion, with a foreign exchange component of Rs 5.847 billion that has been approved by the Executive Committee of National Economic Council last year.Finance minister had accepted the demand of Rs 900 million for machinery and equipment keeping in view project's importance and financial viability, he added.

Dr Mubarakmand assured success of the Thar coal project would encourage global investment by leading international companies dealing with development of underground coal.

He said several foreign companies want to participate in the project and had shown their interest in investing the project along with providing their expertise.

These companies are just waiting the results of maiden 50 MW pilot project and if this pilot project remained successful, a barrage of investment would automatically pour in the country, he added.




Thar coal project to be operational from Dec 2013

 

[qing]

Aids have nothing to do with this topic nor the issue plzz stick to the topic!

 

[Chogy]

Guys going a bit tangent but want to raise some points i.e. Normally where there is Coal there are chances of Diamonds?

Not really. Coal & diamonds are carbon, but that's where it ends. Diamonds have a volcanic origin, very different from sedimentary coal. Diamonds of course are made deep underground in extremes of pressure and temperature, and then a phenomenon known as a "pipe" pushes the diamonds through the crust.

Diamond pipes are generally pretty small. The diamonds once on the surface can be moved about by water and erosion, but in general, a diamond mine is mostly narrow and deep, whereas coal fields can extend for thousands of square kilometers.

Diamonds are of course super-rare, and the vast majority are from Africa. There is ONE diamond region in the U.S. (Arkansas); Canada has seen a couple of finds, too, but it's almost all Africa.

 

[lem34]

Not really. Coal & diamonds are carbon, but that's where it ends. Diamonds have a volcanic origin, very different from sedimentary coal. Diamonds of course are made deep underground in extremes of pressure and temperature, and then a phenomenon known as a "pipe" pushes the diamonds through the crust.

Diamond pipes are generally pretty small. The diamonds once on the surface can be moved about by water and erosion, but in general, a diamond mine is mostly narrow and deep, whereas coal fields can extend for thousands of square kilometers.

Diamonds are of course super-rare, and the vast majority are from Africa. There is ONE diamond region in the U.S. (Arkansas); Canada has seen a couple of finds, too, but it's almost all Africa.

Americans would know they are experts at looting raw resources from poorer developing countries

 

[Roybot]

Americans would know they are experts at looting raw resources from poorer developing countries

Its basic geology. Only overly optimistic Pakistanis would relate coal reserves to diamonds.

 

[Omar1984]

Realising potential of Thar Coal project

Islamabad—The Special Committee of the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) of the parliament was informed on Monday that the government needs a total $ 6 billion to convert Thar Coal project into a big energy source to cope with the persisting energy crisis, but due to financial constraints it was unable to start working on the project in time.

Only extraction of coal from the site require $ 2 billion, while present government recently has provided Rs 2.7 billion for the development of the project and Dr Samar Mubarak Mund along with his team is working on the project. The Thar Coal reservoirs are of the inferior quality, but are in a huge quantity, which make it feasible. These coal reservoirs would be utilised through gasification and first grassfire unit would start production in September.

The country at present is facing a gas shortfall of 40 percent as only 4 million cubic feet per day (MMCFD) gas is available against total demand of 6.2, Mohammed Ijaz Chaudhary, Secretary Ministry of Petroleum and Natural Resources informed the Committee which met here with Yasmeen Rehman Convener of the committee in chair.

The committee members took serious notice of the spreading corruption in the Ministry as well as its attached departments and directed the secretary to hold monthly meeting of the Departmental Account Committee (DAC) so that PAC could focus only on genuine issues.

Ijaz Chaudhary informed that committee under the prevailing circumstance not a single foreign investor is ready to bring investment in the oil and gas exploration sector of the country. He said that Pakistan has to increase the wellhead gas price, saying that present wellhead price is not rationale.

The committee was informed that since 2002 a total of 17 new gas reservoirs were traced across the country out of which some were with limited quantity hence Oil and gas Development Company (OGDCL) was unable to start work on three projects due to law and order situation in the country, while the work on remaining five could not be initiated due to lethargic attitude of the people that matter, but now work has been started and they will start giving production within two years.

The committee was informed that one of the influential politicians of Punjab owes Rs 300 million to Sui Northern Gas Pipeline Company (SNGPL) as he had not paid the outstanding dues; the SNGPL disconnected his gas supply, but he himself has reconnected the gas. On this PAC asked the department concerned to take stern action against such people and recover all the liable dues.

Azim Iqbal Siddiqui, Managing Director Sui Southern Gas Company (SSGC) briefed the committee about the developmental schemes and availability of gas in the Southern Region. He said that the company was providing its services to over 2.2 million consumers, out of which 2.2 million are domestic consumers, 40, 000 commercial and 4,000 industrial consumers. He added that at present over Rs 540 million were liable to different consumers, including Rs 90 millions commercial consumers, Rs 70 industrial consumers and remaining Rs 380 domestic consumers, adding that this is only 1.5 percent of the total sale volume of the company.

Iqbal Siddiqui added 100 percent recovery is not possible and company was seriously considering to wave off the longstanding dues.

The committee was informed that gas theft and other line losses 12 percent are highest in the systems of SNGPL and SSGC. The committee also directed the MD OGDCL to black list all such companies against which cases are registered.



Realising potential of Thar Coal project

 

[mr42O]

lol talk talk and more bullshit. Plz ban all Thar coal project news until its up and runningt

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Its basic geology. Only overly optimistic Pakistanis would relate coal reserves to diamonds.

lol alawys some Indian had to be BIN BULHE MEHMAN ?? Did some one asked u or care about ppl like u ? why waste ur time and our time ? dont u have some thing else to do in ur super cool India ? lol

 

[fd24]

lol talk talk and more bullshit. Plz ban all Thar coal project news until its up and runningt

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lol alawys some Indian had to be BIN BULHE MEHMAN ?? Did some one asked u or care about ppl like u ? why waste ur time and our time ? dont u have some thing else to do in ur super cool India ? lol

brother he is obsessed with us. Thats why he is on here having a sniff