Thank You USA

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

Pakistanis need to start loving pakistan first---they need to start respecting themselves first---they need to make the welfare of pakistan the first and foremost priority in their lives. They need to understand the evil that al qaeda and TTP are.

America is not a snake as someone posted it over here---america has its vested interests---just like any other super power would have---.

Remember---Hajjaj Bin Yusuf----he started the conquest of sindh because 26 or so muslim women were captured by the hindu ruler of sindh---Hajjaj's armies conquered from where karachi is to kashmir just on that whim that how dare the hindu raja capture muslim women---that became the start of ensalving the whole of the sub-continent by muslim armies----which ended in a small minority ruling a large majority for close to 800 years---.

And why did that invasion start----now you know the answer---so there should be no misgivings about what others are doing---.

 

[S-2]

"This may be a convenient rationalization for foreigners to dismiss the deaths of Pakistani children, but we will never abdicate their rights."

What?

You mean you will renege on the right to collective tribal punishment in FATAville? You will renege on the right to have a separate and lesser life in FATAville? You wil renege on the right to be denied an education, health, and adequate sanitation?

What rights are these, again, that your second-class tribal citizens possess?

Someday you might just understand that YOU planted the seeds in FATA that have led to this and then allowed the afghan taliban and A.Q. to add the water.

Cease with your sanctimonious self-righteous B.S. You reap the whirlwind of your besotted efforts now.

We'll come or go as we see fit. My life won't markedly change by your continuing choices. YOUR life is affected daily by the decisions your government has reinforced through the decades.

FATAville, Baluchistan, and the Islamic Emirate of Waziristan-

Feel the Love...

 

[Developereo]

"This may be a convenient rationalization for foreigners to dismiss the deaths of Pakistani children, but we will never abdicate their rights."

What?

You mean you will renege on the right to collective tribal punishment in FATAville? You will renege on the right to have a separate and lesser life in FATAville? You wil renege on the right to be denied an education, health, and adequate sanitation?

What rights are these, again, that your second-class tribal citizens possess?

Two wrongs don't make a right.
The fact that the Pakistani government has ignored the rights of these citizens does not mean they are fair game for foreign target practise.

Someday you might just understand that YOU planted the seeds in FATA that have led to this and then allowed the afghan taliban and A.Q. to add the water.

Cease with your sanctimonious self-righteous B.S. You reap the whirlwind of your besotted efforts now.

Utterly irrelevant.
By your logic, since congressmen underwrite American invasions, then foreigners should feel free to kill unarmed civilians in any crime ridden locality within the US.

We'll come or go as we see fit. My life won't markedly change by your continuing choices. YOUR life is affected daily by the decisions your government has reinforced through the decades.

Might is right. The mantra of the morally bankrupt.

 

[S-2]

Gibberish.

FATA is a product of YOUR choices made from the inception of your country.

Your leaders have intentionally and willfully ignored your responsibilities. Abdicating sovereign responsibilities means that you've abdicated any sovereign rights as well.

As it is from these lands that you don't/can't control that an insurgency is directed against Afghanistan, we'll do what we must to protect our forces. Be glad that it hasn't yet included more onerous options.

Finally, until you can produce ANYTHING that looks like a verifiable means of determining casualties I won't hold much credence to phone calls from the taliban to your all-to-willing press on those killed or the manner in which they've been.

I'm quite content that hellfire HITS what it's aimed at. Afterall it is an anti-tank missile designed to engage a point target. I'm equally comfortable if any of those killed are the children and wives of sycophantic supporters of our enemies.

It, in short, is a bad place to find yourself if in the same room, house, yard, car, compound as these wretched and evil fcuks whom receive succor and aid from your neglected "citizens".

Go take a class on sovereign rights and responsibilities. You and many, many others here NEED such desperately. No rights without exercising the responsibilities.

Just now those lands are NOT yours. You exercise NO meaningful control over them nor their people.

Call me when you've done so. Until then I call it the Islamic Emirate of Waziristan and NOT Pakistan. I do so with GREAT accuracy as that is the name YOUR so-called citizens also ascribe to such. Whatever it is they DO call it, though, it sure as hell isn't PAKISTAN.

Hope some year you might change that but talk of an impending operation because two brigades happen to be in Wana is just that- TALK.

You needed divisions for SWAT. You'll need CORPS for the Islamic Emirate of Waziristan.

Sorry, buckwheat, but your emotion-laden diatribe doesn't wash and nobody on this planet would support such without opening Pandora's box to the same on their lands.

The social contract to govern was broken LONG ago. Maybe some day you'll figure it out. From there it'll be a LOOOOONG haul.

Thanks.

 

[jeypore]

Gibberish.

FATA is a product of YOUR choices made from the inception of your country.

Your leaders have intentionally and willfully ignored your responsibilities. Abdicating sovereign responsibilities means that you've abdicated any sovereign rights as well.

As it is from these lands that you don't/can't control that an insurgency is directed against Afghanistan, we'll do what we must to protect our forces. Be glad that it hasn't yet included more onerous options.

Finally, until you can produce ANYTHING that looks like a verifiable means of determining casualties I won't hold much credence to phone calls from the taliban to your all-to-willing press on those killed or the manner in which they've been.

I'm quite content that hellfire HITS what it's aimed at. Afterall it is an anti-tank missile designed to engage a point target. I'm equally comfortable if any of those killed are the children and wives of sycophantic supporters of our enemies.

It, in short, is a bad place to find yourself if in the same room, house, yard, car, compound as these wretched and evil fcuks whom receive succor and aid from your neglected "citizens".

Go take a class on sovereign rights and responsibilities. You and many, many others here NEED such desperately. No rights without exercising the responsibilities.

Just now those lands are NOT yours. You exercise NO meaningful control over them nor their people.

Call me when you've done so. Until then I call it the Islamic Emirate of Waziristan and NOT Pakistan. I do so with GREAT accuracy as that is the name YOUR so-called citizens also ascribe to such. Whatever it is they DO call it, though, it sure as hell isn't PAKISTAN.

Hope some year you might change that but talk of an impending operation because two brigades happen to be in Wana is just that- TALK.

You needed divisions for SWAT. You'll need CORPS for the Islamic Emirate of Waziristan.

Sorry, buckwheat, but your emotion-laden diatribe doesn't wash and nobody on this planet would support such without opening Pandora's box to the same on their lands.

The social contract to govern was broken LONG ago. Maybe some day you'll figure it out. From there it'll be a LOOOOONG haul.

Thanks.

It is been a while for me S-2 in this forum, but I have been keeping up to date on GLOBAL TERRORISM. It is a pleasure reading your post once again.

 

[jeypore]

Hi,

Pakistanis need to start loving pakistan first---they need to start respecting themselves first---they need to make the welfare of pakistan the first and foremost priority in their lives. They need to understand the evil that al qaeda and TTP are.

America is not a snake as someone posted it over here---america has its vested interests---just like any other super power would have---.

Remember---Hajjaj Bin Yusuf----he started the conquest of sindh because 26 or so muslim women were captured by the hindu ruler of sindh---Hajjaj's armies conquered from where karachi is to kashmir just on that whim that how dare the hindu raja capture muslim women---that became the start of ensalving the whole of the sub-continent by muslim armies----which ended in a small minority ruling a large majority for close to 800 years---.

And why did that invasion start----now you know the answer---so there should be no misgivings about what others are doing---.

Your analogy works so perfect with Muslims Mr. Mastankhan but what about the others. Lets put it this way then, those stealing/inslaving minorities crashed a plane into another country. And those majority freedom loving people attacked back. Is it simple in foreign policy, no matter macro or micro level.

 

[S-2]

"Saudi may be supporting the Afghan Taliban, but I see no reason for them to support TTP."

I saw this comment earlier and didn't see anybody (Muse/A.M./Mastan Khan) correct or enlighten you. KSA is quite probably not budgeting a PENNY for either the afghan taliban nor the TTP.

They may like to but neither can afford the exposure (plausible deniability goes right out the window) nor necessarily NEED to do so.

This is a religious balm/obligation taken by very wealthy to damnably poor Saudis supporting their salafist/wahabbist theology.

As such, that money goes to BOTH the afghan taliban and the TTP. Make no mistake that neither possess any significant philosophical problem to accessing PRIVATE Saudi (and others) donations so long as they generally, by deed or word, support such those tenets.

Plenty of money, not just in KSA, but throughout the gulf and elsewhere that is given to make one feel like they're "doing their bit".

You can bet your arab brothers are contributing daily in massive sums to your country's demise if they at all subscribe to irhabism or salafist/wahabbism.

Judging by the comments here, some are emptying their own pockets against your government but they seem to have found blessed sanctuary here.

Ahhh, keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer.

 

[TalibanSwatter]

"Saudi may be supporting the Afghan Taliban, but I see no reason for them to support TTP."

I saw this comment earlier and didn't see anybody (Muse/A.M./Mastan Khan) correct or enlighten you. KSA is quite probably not budgeting a PENNY for either the afghan taliban nor the TTP.

They may like to but neither can afford the exposure (plausible deniability goes right out the window) nor necessarily NEED to do so.

This is a religious balm/obligation taken by very wealthy to damnably poor Saudis supporting their salafist/wahabbist theology.

As such, that money goes to BOTH the afghan taliban and the TTP. Make no mistake that neither possess any significant philosophical problem to accessing PRIVATE Saudi (and others) donations so long as they generally, by deed or word, support such those tenets.

Plenty of money, not just in KSA, but throughout the gulf and elsewhere that is given to make one feel like they're "doing their bit".

You can bet your arab brothers are contributing daily in massive sums to your country's demise if they at all subscribe to irhabism or salafist/wahabbism.

Judging by the comments here, some are emptying their own pockets against your government but they seem to have found blessed sanctuary here.

Ahhh, keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer.

Sad but true - while the KSA govt may not be involved, the Salafi network is heavily funding the TTP.

 

[waraich66]

"Saudi may be supporting the Afghan Taliban, but I see no reason for them to support TTP."

I saw this comment earlier and didn't see anybody (Muse/A.M./Mastan Khan) correct or enlighten you. KSA is quite probably not budgeting a PENNY for either the afghan taliban nor the TTP.

They may like to but neither can afford the exposure (plausible deniability goes right out the window) nor necessarily NEED to do so.

This is a religious balm/obligation taken by very wealthy to damnably poor Saudis supporting their salafist/wahabbist theology.

As such, that money goes to BOTH the afghan taliban and the TTP. Make no mistake that neither possess any significant philosophical problem to accessing PRIVATE Saudi (and others) donations so long as they generally, by deed or word, support such those tenets.

Plenty of money, not just in KSA, but throughout the gulf and elsewhere that is given to make one feel like they're "doing their bit".

You can bet your arab brothers are contributing daily in massive sums to your country's demise if they at all subscribe to irhabism or salafist/wahabbism.

Judging by the comments here, some are emptying their own pockets against your government but they seem to have found blessed sanctuary here.

Ahhh, keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer.

United Jehadi Alliance (Arabs,Chechan,Uzbik,Tajik,Pushtoon) has network all over the world to collect the money but they dont need much funds as US and NATO need.

They are using US arms on US .

Their strategy of bull fight is working , one day US have to move out of Afghanistan same as Russian.

It is my advice again that US should not fight them because their is no camparision power between US and their invisible forces .

 

[waraich66]

Gibberish.

FATA is a product of YOUR choices made from the inception of your country.

Your leaders have intentionally and willfully ignored your responsibilities. Abdicating sovereign responsibilities means that you've abdicated any sovereign rights as well.

As it is from these lands that you don't/can't control that an insurgency is directed against Afghanistan, we'll do what we must to protect our forces. Be glad that it hasn't yet included more onerous options.

Finally, until you can produce ANYTHING that looks like a verifiable means of determining casualties I won't hold much credence to phone calls from the taliban to your all-to-willing press on those killed or the manner in which they've been.

I'm quite content that hellfire HITS what it's aimed at. Afterall it is an anti-tank missile designed to engage a point target. I'm equally comfortable if any of those killed are the children and wives of sycophantic supporters of our enemies.

It, in short, is a bad place to find yourself if in the same room, house, yard, car, compound as these wretched and evil fcuks whom receive succor and aid from your neglected "citizens".

Go take a class on sovereign rights and responsibilities. You and many, many others here NEED such desperately. No rights without exercising the responsibilities.

Just now those lands are NOT yours. You exercise NO meaningful control over them nor their people.

Call me when you've done so. Until then I call it the Islamic Emirate of Waziristan and NOT Pakistan. I do so with GREAT accuracy as that is the name YOUR so-called citizens also ascribe to such. Whatever it is they DO call it, though, it sure as hell isn't PAKISTAN.

Hope some year you might change that but talk of an impending operation because two brigades happen to be in Wana is just that- TALK.

You needed divisions for SWAT. You'll need CORPS for the Islamic Emirate of Waziristan.

Sorry, buckwheat, but your emotion-laden diatribe doesn't wash and nobody on this planet would support such without opening Pandora's box to the same on their lands.

The social contract to govern was broken LONG ago. Maybe some day you'll figure it out. From there it'll be a LOOOOONG haul.

Thanks.

Eye opener for members who are supporting US drones and army action in FATA , even we drain all our sources US and their think tanks will never stisfy .

It is right time to say bye bye to US to fight alone in Afghanistan.

GOP should make peace deal with militants and should use their potential in Kashmir.

 

[S-2]

"It is right time to say bye bye to US to fight alone in Afghanistan."

You must think that you're contributing to ISAF/America's war in Afghanistan. How? What have you done?

GOP should make peace deal with militants and should use their potential in Kashmir."

You are an irhabist fool who'd lead your people to destruction were you to chart such a course. I'm unsure if you're sufficiently intelligent to understand what you suggest nor the consequences. Fortunately for Pakistan your leaders are at least wiser than you if less wise than needed for the times.

Thanks.

 

[waraich66]

You must think that you're contributing to ISAF/America's war in Afghanistan. How? What have you done?

We have provided ISAF cheap access route otherwise ISAF cost of war will be 10 times if you use Russian route.

Still you think we have not provided any support

You are an irhabist fool who'd lead your people to destruction were you to chart such a course. I'm unsure if you're sufficiently intelligent to understand what you suggest nor the consequences. Fortunately for Pakistan your leaders are at least wiser than you if less wise than needed for the times.

Thanks.

US has their intrest in region , we have our own intrests and poriorities, we dont have any danger from militants , as we used them against Russia effectively, we can also use them against our enemies .

US and OBL better resolve their issues , we are not party in this war.

Regan regime supported Afghan mujahdeen then he was also ****** FOOL as per your defination.

 

[Developereo]

Gibberish.

Judging by the rancour of this particular rant of yours, something must have hit close to the mark.

Abdicating sovereign responsibilities means that you've abdicated any sovereign rights as well.

Which international law firm are you with, again?

As it is from these lands that you don't/can't control that an insurgency is directed against Afghanistan

http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...207-afghan-taliban-less-reliant-pakistan.html

The White House has been presented intelligence estimating Taliban-led forces battling U.S. troops in Afghanistan have nearly quadrupled since 2006 and are increasingly independent of leaders in Pakistan, officials said on Friday.

Looks like NATO might actually have to get off it's a** and actually fight the enemy instead of whining pathetically like a bunch of mama's boys, and pointing the finger at others for their own dismal failure after eight years.

Hey, you can take lessons from our military which actually did the job in Swat instead of coming up with excuses for failure.

, we'll do what we must to protect our forces.

Well, you can always try to bribe off your enemies in Afghanistan. You know, like that surge in Iraq, whose "success" was achieved not by the mighty American soldier, but by the mighty American dollar?

Finally, until you can produce ANYTHING that looks like a verifiable means of determining casualties I won't hold much credence to phone calls from the taliban to your all-to-willing press on those killed or the manner in which they've been.

Reagardless of your head-in-the-sand attitude, we will keep track of the casualties of American terror strikes.
60 drone hits kill 14 al-Qaeda men, 687 civilians

I'm equally comfortable if any of those killed are the children and wives of sycophantic supporters of our enemies.

Good to know that you share the same mindset as the 9/11 attackers.

Go take a class on sovereign rights and responsibilities.

Your alma mater at "Bubba's Hot Dog Stand and School of International Law" is open for enrolment, is it?

Almost 20 lines of a repetitious, bloviating rant and not a single new thought.
You must like writing long posts just for the sake of writing...

 

[S-2]

Your friends sitting in Pakistan aren't as comfortably disposed to cheer from the sidelines as you, sir.

They suffer the consequences of the behavior of backseat warriors like yourself whom donate their largesse from the KSA and elsewhere.

I certainly don't matter. Neither, btw, do you. We can come or go. That won't change the fact that FATAville isn't Pakistan's and the P.A. will have to shed its blood to recapture what was once Pakistan's.

Meanwhile PREDATOR flies and there's NOTHING you'll be doing to change that salient fact nor shall you find a benefactor who'll change that anytime soon.

Thanks.

 

[XYON]

Your friends sitting in Pakistan aren't as comfortably disposed to cheer from the sidelines as you, sir.

They suffer the consequences of the behavior of backseat warriors like yourself whom donate their largesse from the KSA and elsewhere.

I certainly don't matter. Neither, btw, do you. We can come or go. That won't change the fact that FATAville isn't Pakistan's and the P.A. will have to shed its blood to recapture what was once Pakistan's.

Meanwhile PREDATOR flies and there's NOTHING you'll be doing to change that salient fact nor shall you find a benefactor who'll change that anytime soon.

Thanks.

For the past hundreds of years FATA was fine and peaceful with its traditions and old fashioned ways until Bush chose to finger it gung-ho style by landing your armed hicks in Afghanistan. Like I've said elsewhere Master Yoda! Go read a history book or something to educate yourself on what survives in this region (us) and what does not (you). Many like you before have had the same attitude of me TARZAN! until such time their tombstones in Afghanistan simply fizzle out in the windy and rock land. So in about 100 years ahead, I can most certainly say that we'll be here for sure, FATA will be here for sure but I am not too sure about you Joe Blow!