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Thai army delegation visits China amid Western reproach of coup

A delegation of Thai military commanders travelled to China on Wednesday for talks on regional security and joint training amid Western reproach of the army's seizure of power in a coup last month.

General Surasak Kanjanarat, Thailand's de facto defence minister, said the meeting was aimed at mapping out "future plans of action" with the Chinese army, one of its oldest regional allies. He did not elaborate on the plans.

The bid by Thailand's military rulers to strengthen ties with China comes after Western powers, including old ally the United States, criticised the May 22 coup and called for a speedy return to democracy.

The junta has said it has China's support.

"This meeting will be to talk about ties ... and future plans of action and exchange views on regional security," Surasak, the head of the delegation, told reporters.

"We will discuss in which areas we could increase military training. We will not talk about the situation in Thailand because it is not relevant."

Surasak was due to meet the deputy chief-of-staff of the China's army, Lieutenant-General Wang Guanzhong.

The coup was the latest convulsion in a decade-long conflict between the Bangkok-based royalist establishment and former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra and his allies. The ousted government had been headed by the self-exiled, former telecommunications tycoon's sister, Yingluck Shinawatra.

Several foreign government have voiced disapproval of the coup, including the United States, which scrapped joint military programmes days after the generals took power.

In contrast, the ambassadors of China and Vietnam in Bangkok met Thailand's armed forces chief last week in what the junta said was a show of support.

On Monday, in the first major corporate deal since the coup, state-owned China Mobile Ltd agreed to buy a 19 percent stake in Thai telecoms group True Corp for $881 million (524.8 million pounds).

The regime's engagement with China comes at a critical time for the United States, which is shoring up ties with Asian allies and building stronger relationships with countries like Vietnam and Myanmar to counter China's growing assertiveness.

Perhaps with that in mind, the U.S. response to Thailand's coup has, for now anyway, been limited to the suspension of about $3.5 million in military aid and the cancellation of some training exercises and visits by commanders.

While likely to find sympathy in China, Thailand's military is also concerned about perceptions elsewhere. Junta leader General Prayuth Chan-ocha called on 23 Thai ambassadors on Wednesday to make the case for the coup.

"Thailand is not able to be alone in this world and a great part of our income comes from exports which relies on international relationships," Prayuth said.

"We can't make everyone agree with our actions but our duty is to create understanding."

Malaysia's defence minister is due next week to make the first visit by a foreign government minister since the coup. His trip showed "a good understanding of the Thai situation", the Thai military said in a statement.

[Thank you to JP Morgan at CDF for the original post]
 
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It seems Thai military seek for China supports and understanding.
In Southeast Asia, Sino-Thailand relationship is much better than Vietnam. :enjoy:
 
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Here is what I heard many of the old say. Though there are some Thai dispute this view. Again, Im only ordinary person, so I do not know exactly what had happened.

Khmer rouge government proved to ordinary thai citizen the Thai government announcement that communism is bad by doing the killing field.
Had communism ruled thailand, thai citizen would had to work as buffaloes. Khmer rouge proved that It was better to work as buffaloes than to be ruled by communist party.
Vietnam invasion to Cambodia did relief Khmer people from masarce.
After Vietnam invaded Cambodia's Khmer rouge government ( the one that did the killing field ), she now bordered Thailand. Our generals' are predicted that should Vietnam invade bangkok, the north vietnam ( which now control the south and cambodia ) would prevail, -- in matter of days --. Roamers that some Vietnamese generals are planning such an invasion. Vietnam elite troops were stationed at Cambodia.
This leaded to sudden Thai-China change in relationship, from foe to friend. Since Sino-Soviet splited, China was isolated. Should Thailand fall onto Vietnamese hand, China would have been surrounded.

This let to China-Vietnam war. Though which side actually won the war is still in disputed, clearly Thailand won the war, without major fighting. As Sun Tsu said.
Khmer followers were not communist but ultra radical environmentalists. America is to blame for them anyways, they not only bombed regularly vietnam but so did they cambodia. After the war it was obvious some radicals would come into power after millions of Cambodian deaths by US bombings who are often counted in the Khmer massacre
 
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China rolled in to your country and slaughtered you like the monkeys you are, unfortunately malaria killed many Chinese, Thai and Cambodian heroes that year.

Could it be this?

南國山河南帝居
截然定分在天書
如何逆虜來侵犯
汝等行看取敗虛

The South nation resides the Southern Emperor
This fate is written in the book of heaven
If thou against it by invasion,
As said, thou will be suffered a vanquishable destruction!

Don't deny the truth that your sister, mother, aunt and grandmother sucked small American cocks so they could get enough dong to buy rice :pop:

This is the truth, unlike your lies. Don't deny it.

Is this an "off-topic" example, huh Hu Songshan?
 
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Could it be this?

南國山河南帝居
截然定分在天書
如何逆虜來侵犯
汝等行看取敗虛

The South nation resides the Southern Emperor
This fate is written in the book of heaven
If thou against it by invasion,
As said, thou will be suffered a vanquishable destruction!



Is this an "off-topic" example, huh Hu Songshan?

Yea and and I banned him for his off topic posts. Keep your posts in English forum rules.
 
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Here is what I heard many of the old say. Though there are some Thai dispute this view. Again, Im only ordinary person, so I do not know exactly what had happened.

Khmer rouge government proved to ordinary thai citizen the Thai government announcement that communism is bad by doing the killing field.
Had communism ruled thailand, thai citizen would had to work as buffaloes. Khmer rouge proved that It was better to work as buffaloes than to be ruled by communist party.
Vietnam invasion to Cambodia did relief Khmer people from masarce.
After Vietnam invaded Cambodia's Khmer rouge government ( the one that did the killing field ), she now bordered Thailand. Our generals' are predicted that should Vietnam invade bangkok, the north vietnam ( which now control the south and cambodia ) would prevail, -- in matter of days --. Roamers that some Vietnamese generals are planning such an invasion. Vietnam elite troops were stationed at Cambodia.
This leaded to sudden Thai-China change in relationship, from foe to friend. Since Sino-Soviet splited, China was isolated. Should Thailand fall onto Vietnamese hand, China would have been surrounded.

This let to China-Vietnam war. Though which side actually won the war is still in disputed, clearly Thailand won the war, without major fighting. As Sun Tsu said.

That is somewhat truth in the past. Nowadays China has a different approach. The approach essentially comes down to "you sort out your own problem, we will do business with whoever that is in charge".
 
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Khmer followers were not communist but ultra radical environmentalists. America is to blame for them anyways, they not only bombed regularly vietnam but so did they cambodia. After the war it was obvious some radicals would come into power after millions of Cambodian deaths by US bombings who are often counted in the Khmer massacre


According to you, everything is america faults.lool Yes america did bombed Vietnam(more than all the firepower used in world war II, i admit it) and cambodia almost to extinction, but you cant blame the U.S for the crimes the Khmer rouge committed.:disagree:
Some people just like blaming everything on America, im sure the recent anti chinese riots in Vietnam is also america fault/planing and the political crisis in thailand is the U.S fault as well.:disagree:
 
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According to you, everything is america faults.lool Yes america did bombed Vietnam(more than all the firepower used in world war II, i admit it) and cambodia almost to extinction, but you cant blame the U.S for the crimes the Khmer rouge committed.:disagree:
Some people just like blaming everything on America, im sure the recent anti chinese riots in Vietnam is also america fault/planing and the political crisis in thailand is the U.S fault as well.:disagree:

so? see at iraq whats happening its the same scenario. Its normal that after brutal wars its not liberals who come to power but always radicals doesnt matter what ideology
 
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According to you, everything is america faults.lool Yes america did bombed Vietnam(more than all the firepower used in world war II, i admit it) and cambodia almost to extinction, but you cant blame the U.S for the crimes the Khmer rouge committed.:disagree:
Some people just like blaming everything on America, im sure the recent anti chinese riots in Vietnam is also america fault/planing and the political crisis in thailand is the U.S fault as well.:disagree:

Some even said that recent anti Chinese riots in Vietnam was directed by Chinese's govt. as well.
 
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CPC only has to make sure that both side in Thailand will become extremely dependent to China.

It is useless for the US to organize the coup to overthrow the so-called pro-China government. :coffee:
 
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