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In a 2014 book, Hyundai’s then R&D Chief Lee Hyun-soon, who also happens to be the one who developed South Korea’s first gasoline engines, argued that electric vehicles were “not realistic,” and part of this is due to their high battery costs. According to Lee, hydrogen based cars are a better zero emissions alternative, and the technology offered a “bright future.”

Hyundai, together with experienced carmakers such as Toyota and upstart companies like Nikola, bet big on the adoption and spread of hydrogen vehicles. The company launched the Tucson Fuel Cell in 2013 and the NEXO in 2018, both of which garnered a fair amount of optimism. However, this optimism did not translate to sales, and the hydrogen boom that was to come did not come at all.


Last year, 7,707 hydrogen fuel cell cars were sold globally. In comparison, there were 1.68 million electric vehicles that were sold in 2019, more than 86,000 of which came from Hyundai itself, as per figures from LMC Automotive. Tesla, the leader in EVs today, sold a whopping 367,500 vehicles last year, and that’s with a lineup comprised solely of premium cars.

Tesla’s expansion has been felt in South Korea. Since the launch of the Model 3, Tesla has spread its reach into the country. In June alone, Tesla had its best month in South Korea, beating Hyundai’s Kona EV and other premium rivals from BMW and Audi. Last month, South Korea’s rental service firm SK Rent-a-Car even announced that it would be adding the Tesla Model 3 to its fleet, simply because new Tesla products were the “most favored” electric cars among its customers.


In a statement to Reuters, an industry insider stated that Tesla’s rise has caught Hyundai by surprise. “Hyundai did not expect Tesla to dominate the EV market so quickly,” the source said. But with the demand for electric cars being established and highlighted in the country by Tesla’s rise, Hyundai is mobilizing to catch up. An internal union newsletter retrieved by the news outlet, for example, revealed that Hyundai intends to introduce two production lines dedicated to EVs in the near future. The first of these would be introduced as early as next year.

Euisun Chung, the leader of the Hyundai Motor Group conglomerate, has reportedly held a series of meetings with his counterparts at Samsung, LG, and SK Group, companies that manufacture batteries and electronic parts. In a statement to Reuters, Hyundai noted that it was collaborating with South Korean battery suppliers to “scale up” its EV production capabilities to compete in the electric car segment better.


Amidst these strategies, Hyundai has started what appears to be a definitive step away from hydrogen cars to electric vehicles. The company still promotes its hydrogen cars with popular K-pop band BTS, but it only intends to produce two hydrogen vehicles by 2025. In comparison, the company intends to have 23 battery powered cars by then. This was highlighted in a statement last month by Chung, who stated that the company wants to sell 1 million EVs per year, grabbing a global market share of 10%, by 2025.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-pushes-hyundai-to-evs-over-hydrogen/amp/
 
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In a 2014 book, Hyundai’s then R&D Chief Lee Hyun-soon, who also happens to be the one who developed South Korea’s first gasoline engines, argued that electric vehicles were “not realistic,” and part of this is due to their high battery costs. According to Lee, hydrogen based cars are a better zero emissions alternative, and the technology offered a “bright future.”

Just another established car company blindsided by a complete outsider
 
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Tesla is set to dominate. Their a generational company.

Read this 2014 article (lots of hilarious quotes):
https://www.scmp.com/news/china-ins...ar-industry-say-chinese-state-owned-carmakers
Tesla is no 'Apple of the car industry', say Chinese state-owned carmakers


When asked whether the cutting-edge electric carmaker Tesla Motors may be a game changer in the global car industry like Apple was to the mobile phone industry, Chinese state-owned carmakers shrugged off such comparisons.

Xu Heyi, chairman of Beijing Automotive Industry Holding (BAIC), one of China's leading state-owned carmakers, answered very succinctly: “Impossible”.

Xu also asserted that Tesla boss Elon Musk was not about to become the next Steve Jobs. “[I’m] certain about that,” he said at this year’s Boao Forum for Asia, an annual economic conference held in southern China’s Hainan province.

California-based carmaker Tesla has drawn global attention for its dynamic approach to making electric-powered cars. Its Model S – a luxury four-door sedan with sports-car-like performance – has garnered international praise for its blend of attractive lines and powerful electric drivetrain, and is believed by many to be a product that’s reshaped the image of electric cars forever.

Overwhelmingly positive reviews from car critics helped boost Tesla’s Model S sales figures, and its stock price more than doubled from US$120.5 last November to US$254.8 per share in early March. On Wednesday, Tesla’s share price stood at US$210. Its success has also driven up the stock prices of electric carmakers in China, yet the launch of Tesla’s premium Model S in Beijing effectively dampened the future outlook of the home-grown new energy carmakers, including BAIC.

Xu said that BAIC was planning to unveil a new electric car whose performance will transcend that of Model S by the end of 2015.

Xu’s bold statement came months after BAIC in February acquired a 25 per cent equity stake in Atieva, a California-based battery developer for electric vehicles founded by a former Tesla vice-president, in a move viewed as shoring up its battery support and potentially improving the output of its currently averagely performing electric car.

Also at the forum, Chief Manager Zhu Fushou of Dongfeng Motor Group, China’s second largest carmaker, said he was also unimpressed by Tesla’s “Apple” comparison.

“Tesla set its [global] sales target at 70,000. But this is a just a fraction of the Chinese car market,” Zhu said

China sold 21.9 million cars last year, up 13.9 per cent from the year before while Tesla’s world-wide sales reached just 22,300 last year.

Electric cars, Zhu added, still require more technological breakthroughs in terms of battery costs and safety features.

This is not the first time Chinese automotive chiefs have publicly dismissed the ambitions of the American carmaker.

Wang Chuanfu, the founder and chairman of China’s top electric car manufacturer BYD Auto, had also openly disparaged Tesla’s ambitions.

“BYD could make a Tesla as soon as consumer demand for electric cars really takes off,” Wang said at a general meeting of shareholders. The electric car market, not the technology behind it, was the pressing issue facing his company, he said.

In February this year, Wang again called Tesla a “rich man’s toy”, brushing off concerns of competition from Tesla’s luxurious Model S.

BYD’s all-electric model, E6, retails at about 300,000 yuan in China before government subsidies, and its new hybrid model Qin goes for around 200,000 yuan. Both are much cheaper than Tesla's Model S, which starts at 750,000 yuan


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Read this 2014 article (lots of hilarious quotes):
https://www.scmp.com/news/china-ins...ar-industry-say-chinese-state-owned-carmakers
Tesla is no 'Apple of the car industry', say Chinese state-owned carmakers


When asked whether the cutting-edge electric carmaker Tesla Motors may be a game changer in the global car industry like Apple was to the mobile phone industry, Chinese state-owned carmakers shrugged off such comparisons.

Xu Heyi, chairman of Beijing Automotive Industry Holding (BAIC), one of China's leading state-owned carmakers, answered very succinctly: “Impossible”.

Xu also asserted that Tesla boss Elon Musk was not about to become the next Steve Jobs. “[I’m] certain about that,” he said at this year’s Boao Forum for Asia, an annual economic conference held in southern China’s Hainan province.

California-based carmaker Tesla has drawn global attention for its dynamic approach to making electric-powered cars. Its Model S – a luxury four-door sedan with sports-car-like performance – has garnered international praise for its blend of attractive lines and powerful electric drivetrain, and is believed by many to be a product that’s reshaped the image of electric cars forever.

Overwhelmingly positive reviews from car critics helped boost Tesla’s Model S sales figures, and its stock price more than doubled from US$120.5 last November to US$254.8 per share in early March. On Wednesday, Tesla’s share price stood at US$210. Its success has also driven up the stock prices of electric carmakers in China, yet the launch of Tesla’s premium Model S in Beijing effectively dampened the future outlook of the home-grown new energy carmakers, including BAIC.

Xu said that BAIC was planning to unveil a new electric car whose performance will transcend that of Model S by the end of 2015.

Xu’s bold statement came months after BAIC in February acquired a 25 per cent equity stake in Atieva, a California-based battery developer for electric vehicles founded by a former Tesla vice-president, in a move viewed as shoring up its battery support and potentially improving the output of its currently averagely performing electric car.

Also at the forum, Chief Manager Zhu Fushou of Dongfeng Motor Group, China’s second largest carmaker, said he was also unimpressed by Tesla’s “Apple” comparison.

“Tesla set its [global] sales target at 70,000. But this is a just a fraction of the Chinese car market,” Zhu said

China sold 21.9 million cars last year, up 13.9 per cent from the year before while Tesla’s world-wide sales reached just 22,300 last year.

Electric cars, Zhu added, still require more technological breakthroughs in terms of battery costs and safety features.

This is not the first time Chinese automotive chiefs have publicly dismissed the ambitions of the American carmaker.

Wang Chuanfu, the founder and chairman of China’s top electric car manufacturer BYD Auto, had also openly disparaged Tesla’s ambitions.

“BYD could make a Tesla as soon as consumer demand for electric cars really takes off,” Wang said at a general meeting of shareholders. The electric car market, not the technology behind it, was the pressing issue facing his company, he said.

In February this year, Wang again called Tesla a “rich man’s toy”, brushing off concerns of competition from Tesla’s luxurious Model S.

BYD’s all-electric model, E6, retails at about 300,000 yuan in China before government subsidies, and its new hybrid model Qin goes for around 200,000 yuan. Both are much cheaper than Tesla's Model S, which starts at 750,000 yuan


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Sounds like members of the Chinese PDF Brigade. They don’t have a clue.


Tesla is about to achieve exponential growth. Their expanding production in Fremont and Shanghai. Giga Berlin and Giga Texas will go into production next year. World class manufacturing facilities. Their massive lead in FSD, which will revolutionize the auto industry. And their robotaxi network that will spinoff that.

A potential $3 trillion company in 10-15 years.
 
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Sounds like members of the Chinese PDF Brigade. They don’t have a clue.


Tesla is about to achieve exponential growth. Their expanding production in Fremont and Shanghai. Giga Berlin and Giga Texas will go into production next year. World class manufacturing facilities. Their massive lead in FSD, which will revolutionize the auto industry. And their robotaxi network that will spinoff that.

A potential $3 trillion company in 10-15 years.

Total Tesla sales since founding: 900k. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla,_Inc.#Sales

Toyota sales in one year: 10 million. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota

Think that Tesla cumulative sales will exceed Toyota yearly sales by 2030? No lol. But even if it does, they lose $6000 per car.

https://www.investopedia.com/articl...-losing-money-each-time-it-sells-car-tsla.asp
 
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