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Tesla AI a bit too scary for the Chinese leadership.


Tesla cars have been banned from entering Beidaihe, a Chinese resort town, for two months over concerns about spying amid a meeting of the country’s leadership.

For the most part, Tesla and the Chinese government are believed to have a good relationship.

The two came to a deal that resulted in Tesla being the first foreign automaker to fully owned a car factory in China without having to have a joint venture with a state-owned company.

Tesla CEO Elon Musk has also been known to praise the Chinese people and has refrained from criticizing the Chinese government.

Nonetheless, the Chinese government has indicated clear concerns that Tesla vehicles could be involved in spying activities in its country.

Last year, the People’s Liberation Army, China’s military, issued a notice banning Tesla owners from parking their vehicles on bases and in housing complexes.

The concerns appeared to be related to Tesla’s use of cameras all around its vehicles and where the data is going.

Musk even commented on the story by stating the obvious: “Tesla is not using its vehicles’ cameras to spy on China,” but it didn’t seem to alleviate the concerns as even more government entities reportedly told employees not to park their Tesla vehicles on government property.

Following those situations, Tesla later announced that it will store all data collected in China locally.

A few months later, Tesla announced a new data center in the country in order to do just that, but it didn’t seem to alleviate all concerns.

Today, the local traffic authorities in Beidaihe announced that all Tesla cars are going to be banned from its roads for at least two months:

Tesla cars will be prohibited from entering the Chinese coastal district of Beidaihe, site of a secretive annual summer party leadership conclave, for at least two months starting on July 1, a local traffic police official told Reuters on Monday.
Beidaihe is a resort town not too far from Beijing, and it has been known to host meetings of the Chinese leadership in the summer.

While the authorities didn’t comment on the reason behind the ban, the assumption is that they don’t want the cameras on Tesla vehicles to catch anything related to the meeting.
 
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If by AI you mean turning on cameras without permission and sending the data back to minimum wage interns, sure.

Of course it has cameras...how do you think this works without cameras

Tesla autopilot in China​


if people are worried about interior cameras they can easily solve it with a piece of tape.

The microphone may be trickier.

Besides this is the reason why LIDAR based self-driving systems are going to flop being sold worldwide. No government is going to allow a foreign automaker to LIDAR map their entire country's road system (including the buildings that abut the road) down to the millimeter as this is an obvious national security issue.

Just think If countries like China are paranoid about cameras seeing something...can you imagine their reaction to having some company driving around EVERY road in the country with a LIDAR pre-mapper that is needed for LIDAR based cars to navigate?
 
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Pure propaganda as usual -- NO ONE CARES ABOUT TESLA CARS ! The Chinese Brands are way better !
 
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Of course it has cameras...how do you think this works without cameras

Tesla autopilot in China​


if people are worried about interior cameras they can easily solve it with a piece of tape.

The microphone may be trickier.

Besides this is the reason why LIDAR based self-driving systems are going to flop being sold worldwide. No government is going to allow a foreign automaker to LIDAR map their entire country's road system (including the buildings that abut the road) down to the millimeter as this is an obvious national security issue.

Just think If countries like China are paranoid about cameras seeing something...can you imagine their reaction to having some company driving around EVERY road in the country with a LIDAR pre-mapper that is needed for LIDAR based cars to navigate?
There's no real solution. Every self driving car no matter what it uses - camera, Lidar or mmwave - can also be used as a surveyor when driven manually.
 
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There's no real solution. Every self driving car no matter what it uses - camera, Lidar or mmwave - can also be used as a surveyor when driven manually.

CISCO backdoors, etc. Much of what is out of SV, Cali has backdoors.
 
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Looks like Tesla's days in China are numbered. Elon's next move will be to Shaghai after ditching Cali for Texas...
 
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Tbf smartphones and other modern gadgets are really part of a massive apparatus of surveillance. It puts DDR to shame but we allow it because it is sold as beneficial for us.

It is freaky, i am 99% sure the cellphone is listening to my conversations. Many times i talk about a certain topic and baam it “randomely” appear as a ad on my phone.
 
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It's over for Tesla.
It seems US and China are actively pushing Musk out, all because of his bid of buying Twitter no doubt.
 
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Hilarious to hear the insinuation of China is paranoid from America !!

Sometime I wonder if there must be a shortage of mirror in America.
 
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Tesla AI a bit too scary for the Chinese leadership.


Tesla cars have been banned from entering Beidaihe, a Chinese resort town, for two months over concerns about spying amid a meeting of the country’s leadership.

For the most part, Tesla and the Chinese government are believed to have a good relationship.

The two came to a deal that resulted in Tesla being the first foreign automaker to fully owned a car factory in China without having to have a joint venture with a state-owned company.

Tesla CEO Elon Musk has also been known to praise the Chinese people and has refrained from criticizing the Chinese government.

Nonetheless, the Chinese government has indicated clear concerns that Tesla vehicles could be involved in spying activities in its country.

Last year, the People’s Liberation Army, China’s military, issued a notice banning Tesla owners from parking their vehicles on bases and in housing complexes.

The concerns appeared to be related to Tesla’s use of cameras all around its vehicles and where the data is going.

Musk even commented on the story by stating the obvious: “Tesla is not using its vehicles’ cameras to spy on China,” but it didn’t seem to alleviate the concerns as even more government entities reportedly told employees not to park their Tesla vehicles on government property.

Following those situations, Tesla later announced that it will store all data collected in China locally.

A few months later, Tesla announced a new data center in the country in order to do just that, but it didn’t seem to alleviate all concerns.

Today, the local traffic authorities in Beidaihe announced that all Tesla cars are going to be banned from its roads for at least two months:


Beidaihe is a resort town not too far from Beijing, and it has been known to host meetings of the Chinese leadership in the summer.

While the authorities didn’t comment on the reason behind the ban, the assumption is that they don’t want the cameras on Tesla vehicles to catch anything related to the meeting.
There goes your Tesla sales in China...

@F-22Raptor
Better sell your Tesla stock while price still high. Tesla sales can never reclaim back the glory in China. :enjoy:
 
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CCP has reason to be scared of exposure. Obviously Xi is planning on vacationing with some close pals.
 
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There goes your Tesla sales in China...

@F-22Raptor
Better sell your Tesla stock while price still high. Tesla sales can never reclaim back the glory in China. :enjoy:

LOL! you have said this multiple times in the past and then the next month Tesla has record sales and BYD's 100% EV's models flounder in the sub 10K range.

BYD should just stick with what they do best: hybrids and gasoline cars because their market for 100% battery EV's is just not happening. Leave that to Tesla.
 
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LOL! you have said this multiple times in the past and then the next month Tesla has record sales and BYD's 100% EV's models flounder in the sub 10K range.

BYD should just stick with what they do best: hybrids and gasoline cars because their market for 100% battery EV's is just not happening. Leave that to Tesla.


He’s going to end up with egg on his face again. June is looking like a record month for Tesla in China.
 
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