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Define Wahhabism to me? And who are the ones who call themselves Wahhabis? Bring me the sub-set of group that openly declares themselves Wahahbis? I will be waiting. Oh and Wikipedia article is not a valid source and if you bring it I already discredit it a thousand times already.

Link? Lol.

You want me to link you the website of Al Qaeda? Or ISIS? or the religion of the House of Saud? That ideology is one and same. It is known around the world as wahabism.
 
Only deluded individuals think there is nothing such as wahabbism

Wahhabism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is not as nobody calls himself that. There is no definition of it. Just a lot of guesswork etc. Even Western academics agree with this.

It's a nice little code word that various people blame all their miseries on or what they perceive as problems. The Najdi dominated clergy in KSA for instance follow the Hanbali fiqh which is one of the 4 madahib in Sunni Islam. Yet around 70-80% of people in KSA are not following the Hanbali fiqh. In KSA you have the biggest native diversity of sects (be they Sunni, Shia or Sufi) which is not surprising given that what is now KSA is the cradle of Islam. You just need to do some research or read some books.

Even the so-called picture of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab is not a picture of him but some random Arab in traditional headgear. He died in June 1792 before the photography was invented. Yet whenever you google the word "Wahhabism" his supposed picture comes up. This is very telling.

What you are looking for is Qutbism and militant jihadism. Al-Qaeda was for instance inspired by Qutbism. So is ISIS. Take a look on that and come back to me.

Anyway nice trick from moving this discussion (which concerns an Iranian terrorist) into a discussion about KSA.:lol:
 
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Your Juba has a history of supporting terrorists before

Care to quote a post of mine where i openly declare that i support terrorists?

I fully declare that I 100% support the western coalition against ISIS, and to them this makes me a murtad and under sentence of death to be killed wherever they may find me, we all know how their thinking goes, but I tell you Juba and your friends come here you little bastards don't think that I am afraid of you. Here is a head start I live in Taif, now call your terrorist buddies and start your man hunt. Wait what? You can't? You are too afraid expect being a keyboard warrior? That's what I thought Juba. The likes of you would be the first I would cleanse out of KSA even if the casualties ranked up in millions of your kind.

Easy bro, take your chill a pill, no need for all that unnecessary rage :lol:
 
Hindu, Jewish, Buddhist, Sikh, or Christian lands/wealth aren't occupied nor attacked. At least, that's what an average Muslim observes. Many conflicts around the world also involve Islamic countries. From Palestine to Iraq everyone can relate to these conflicts. Scores of people die each day in these conflicts. Of course, there is hypocrisy in the world when it comes to resolving outstanding major conflicts. Heck, an occupying force blatantly murders women and children in broad daylight whilst the world looks the other way. Yes, I'm referring to Palestine. Hence, some so-called "Muslims" which are susceptible to violence are influenced. Some are simply rouge elements. Again, they belong to a specific ideology which has no commonality to any faith let alone Islam. The vast majority of Muslims don't relate nor condone violence in any form. Neither does the Islamic faith or any of its branches. Such outfits are a typical guerilla movement which use indiscriminate force to make their grievances heard. The only difference is that they abuse faith under the garb of injustice. Even their genuine grievances become null and void. After all, violence never resolves anything.

However, it's much more complicated than that. Violence in many countries around the world is also artificially fabricated. The violence is fabricated internally as well as externally. The Taliban, AQ, ISIL etc. are all militant groups which have received backing from the West in the past. This is no secret. They become "good" when their services are required. They become "bad" when they become a liability. This hypocrisy needs to stop both in the Islamic world as well as the West. Time has come to call a spade a spade. Also, the conflicts in the world need to be addressed in a fair manner which leaves no oxygen for grievances or radical thoughts.
Somebody mentioned that you are a Pakistani Hindu but your statement above in bold clearly gave away your identity. What you stated above is nothing but pure BS. Muslims have a history of attacking many countries and massacring people and occupying their lands. This happened in cse of Indian subcontinent. So stop fooling people by passing your lies as facts. Even for Israeli Jews they are holding up their lands of origin. They were forced to move out but now back to their roots. Why is that wrong in any sense?

Its about time you guys stop playing your victimhood card.
 
If my history serves me correct, the fore fathers of Saudi Arabia rebelled numerous times against the Ottomans in order to set up a Wahhabi Caliphate in the early 19th century. They were smashed ruthlessly under Muhammad Ali Pasha. Yet why is it now that when the Arab nations have the capability, they still want the U.S. and NATO to do all the work against ISIS? Look at Saudi Arabia's defense spendings over the past 5 years. Being right on the border with all the action, you would think they would do more than throw spitballs at ISIS. This is a huge conspiracy in itself.
 
Terrorist Mulla put to the fires of hell:

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The guy was no mullah, but a self-claimed Sunni Sheikh (after his conversion).
 
Somebody mentioned that you are a Pakistani Hindu but your statement above in bold clearly gave away your identity. Muslims attacked many countries and massacred people and occupied their lands. Same is true for Indian subcontinent. So stop fooling people by passing your lies as facts.

Where have I denied wrongdoing by Muslim countries? No country on this planet has a clean slate including Muslim nations. History is full of injustices and unforgivable crimes committed by people belonging to all faiths. However, that doesn't in any way condone the wrongdoing committed by powerful states such as the US. Much of the militancy in the world today would not exist had the US not discriminated between good and bad militant groups. That's a fact you cannot deny.

PS. You don't know sh!t about me.
 
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Only deluded individuals think there is nothing such as wahabbism

Wahhabism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And here it is just like clock work, now let's see the sources of this article shall we?

""Saudi Arabia and the Rise of the Wahhabi Threat"
"Wahhabism: Understanding the Roots and Role Models of Islamic Extremism"
"Commins, David (2009). The Wahhabi Mission and Saudi Arabia." David Commins "This guy is on a personal Anti-Saudi mission so he doesn't wane from spreading propaganda, for personal reasons that he himself admits"

"The Great Theft: Wrestling Islam from the Extremists"
"Wahabi Kafir"
"Saudi Arabia: The Shape of a Client Feudalism."
""The Wahhabi war against 'infidels' and flowers""
"Saudi Arabia Exposed: Inside a Kingdom in Crisis"
"Saudi Arabia Exposed"
""Fitanatul Wahhabiya - LET US CORRECT OUR ISLAMIC FAITH""
"Saudi Arabia, Wahhabism and the Spread of Sunni Theofascism"
""ISIS' Harsh Brand of Islam Is Rooted in Austere Saudi Creed"


Yeah these sources that this wikipedia article is drawing from sounds really objective and unbiased right? You will find the word "Saudi" mentioned a lot because Wahhabism is just that, an anti-Saudi propaganda spectacle.
 
Until now,

ABC News: no connection with Islam or Muslims. Aussies and Muslims in Australia showing solidarity with each other and are with each other in this time of distress.

A slap on the bare face of those clowns specially 'baniyas' jumping to generalise Muslims.
 
this is what he said in his FB account :

In December 2014 Haron announced that he used to be a Rafidi [shia] but he had converted to Islam [added by me : probably he means wahhabism], he announced it both on his website and his Facebook Page

"Probably he means Wahhabism" "Added by me", case closed here.
 
Anyone who imposes religion on people or takes it outside of their own personal life be they christians, jews, muslims is a bit odd, I find it an archaic way of pursusing your life and it should be PERSONAL, your relationship to god should be between you and "him". Blame the US/Jews etc all you want but violence in religions name has been going on since its inception, how profoundly stupid do you have to be to act out violent in the name of a religion. Allahu akbar im blowing up innocent civilians, god certainly is great. I dont believe in god but if there was one then he would surely come down hard in the "afterlife" on anyone who chants about his greatness whilst murdering people.

ISIS arent really a threat, if anyone wanted to take them out it could be done in a month, its just inconvenient and another war for what will most likely be the west to get bogged down in because no one else ever has the balls to do anything. Chinese/Russians then criticize the west for these acts whilst at home they imprison muslims, have lots of domestic terrorism and ban burkas etc whilst treating muslims like second class citizens whilst in the west most are integrated and do well.
 
Coward Terrorists will always target innocent civilians in public places. That is their hallmark! It is sad that 20 innocent people are held hostage by an ISIL terrorist in the heart of Sidney. What was the crime of these people? Having breakfast in the middle of the morning? The terrorists should know that they can gain a bit of attention through these cowardly acts but they should rest assured that that they cannot get away by these tactics. People all over the world have become aware of the real agenda of ISIL and has totally rejected it. Some will claim that the few youngsters are still trying to join them and that is because of their sleek recruitment campaign through social media by deceptive messaging. This is the time to stand up against all form of terrorism and neutralize them once and for all.

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