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Terrorist takes Australian cafe customers hostage:

Add more deflection in your posts, it's what your community really needs right now.

I don't care about this individual nor what you think. Nor will I excuse anything. You can go sit in the corner and cry and fantasize about Muslims disappearing overnight which will never happen. We are here to stay and none of you bigots can do anything about it. This has been the case for the past 1400 years and will be in the future too.
 
At some point quoting the quran ain't gonna work man. They're doing it in the name of your religion- many people are doing these things in the name of your religion. People will come to the conclusion that something is wrong with your community. I'm not sure that conclusion is wrong. How is that despite such proclaimed nobility, systematically there is so much violence across the world then?

Does it look like we give a flying **** what your duplicitous, low life kind thinks of our community when you cheer the bombing of civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq, when you turn a blind eye to absolute mass murder of millions by the super power and her allies from Palestine to Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Lebanon and overall the whole world.

We absolutely deplore the US created and sponsored ISIS and all those who are abusing Islam, both from within and without. At the same time, we deplore all state sponsored acts of terrorism against any community for any purpose, by any country or group, be it long term religious goals, suppression, control of minerals and natural resources or man power, politics etc.!
 
9 p.m. Sydney time. No end in sight to the hostage drama. So far no casualties and 5 hostages managed to escape earlier. We are still getting reports.

Have they made any demands? If they were there to simply kill then they would have done it by now.
 
I don't care about this individual nor what you think. Nor will I excuse anything. You can go sit in the corner and cry and fantasize about Muslims disappearing overnight which will never happen. We are here to stay.

You are being very stubborn. The white man is doing very little crying.
I don't care about this individual nor what you think. Nor will I excuse anything. You can go sit in the corner and cry and fantasize about Muslims disappearing overnight which will never happen. We are here to stay and none of you bigots can do anything about it. This has been the case for the past 1400 years and will be in the future too.

Your chest thumping is the wrong reaction. Everything has to be turned into a "1400 year" war scenario. Nowhere did I say or insinuate that I want Muslims to disappear. I just want the ones with the long beards to choose which side they are on.
 
I understand that, which is why I'm posting all this. But this and twitter activism is not enough, I try my best to attend seminars etc that address this issue from an Islamic perspective but that's again not enough. I just don't have the resources and capabilities to lead a proper movement- not yet atleast.
Inshallah (God willing), I'll continue my efforts, however minuscule they may be. May God help us all.

No; my friend and fellow citizen of this world..... you are doing alright. You may be only one person, but the whole World consists of many such 'one persons'. Do not drop out.... Keep the Faith.
As for this mr. Darvan here on this thread; he claims to be a "follower of the Book".... but which "Book" is it?
Is it a religious book, or is it a Primer for ignorance, bigotry and destruction.
 
You are bankrupt individual, using these very lofty spiritual ideals to justify and endorse your misguided ways.
I give a dam about what you have to say Australia was partner with USA in attacking Afghanistan and now Iraq but these hostages has nothing to with Aussie governments shit policies
 
Have they made any demands? If they were there to simply kill then they would have done it by now.

Who are "they"? Is it not one single maniac?

You are being very stubborn. The white man is doing very little crying.


Your chest thumping is the wrong reaction. Everything has to be turned into a "1400 year" war scenario. Nowhere did I say or insinuate that I want Muslims to disappear. I just want the ones with the long beards to choose which side they are on.

Nice try buddy but I am partially European myself and have Roman Catholics and Atheists in my family. This does not prevent me from looking right throw bigots though. They know it themselves anyway but sometimes someone has to tell them as well.

You will notice that most Muslims do not care about those few maniacs. Why the hell should we? What do you want me to do about it? There are almost 2 billion Muslims. From every corner of the world. From all ethnicities, cultures etc. It's not one homogenous unit as some deluded people think.

Those people are already beyond reach. Anyway those people have various problems. Some social, psychological, economical etc. Those are disturbed people that just misuse Islam. Only serious bigots and ignorants believe that this is what Islam and Muslims are about.

Non-Muslims would likely go rampage and kill school children etc. or commit suicide. Some disturbed "Muslims" are inventing Jihad as an excuse for their pathetic life's. Why? Because they believe that they will go to heaven. Similarly ISIS and other lunatics also believe that killing Muslims (or anyone that does not agree with them) will give them a place in heaven. I doubt that all believe this anyway and some are just simple murderers that now have an excuse to kill people.

There are 2 or 3 million Muslims in the UK. You have had 1 terrorist attack. Muslims have been present in the UK for over 200 years since the first Yemeni community arrived in the UK. Try to use your head once in a while.

LOL. So beards are now a problem?:lol: Just today here in Copenhagen (just ventured out to do some shopping) I saw at least 50 Danes with beards. My age (I am in my earliest 20's). I myself have a quite stylish beard. The girls like it. Maybe you can't grow a beard and that's what is itching you? Who knows? Eat healthy, do exercise and sleep enough and maybe you will grow a beard one day as well?

If you equal people with beards as terrorists then you have serious problems. Anyway I already know where this is going so let's end it here.
 
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I give a dam about what you have to say Australia was partner with USA in attacking Afghanistan and now Iraq but these hostages has nothing to with Aussie governments shit policies

Who gives a ratz azz what a spiritually and morally bankrupt terrorist individual like you think.
 
Have they made any demands? If they were there to simply kill then they would have done it by now.

It has been reported that he asked for an ISIS flag and to speak to the PM Tony Abbott. The ISIS flag demand seems strange as, I believe, he forced the patrons in the cafe to hold up an ISIS flag against the front window of the cafe relatively early in the piece so he must have had one in his possession when he entered the cafe. Tony Abbott PM has made a public appeal for calm and praised the police and emergency services, but as far as I know hasn't spoken to the gunman, if that is what he is. And you're quite right, if he was going to execute hostages he would have started by now. That's why I am inclined to think he is only doing this as an attention-seeking exercise, trying to make a name for himself.
 
It has been reported that he asked for an ISIS flag and to speak to the PM Tony Abbott. The ISIS flag demand seems strange as, I believe, he forced the patrons in the cafe to hold up an ISIS flag against the front window of the cafe relatively early in the piece so he must have had one in his possession when he entered the cafe. Tony Abbott PM has made a public appeal for calm and praised the police and emergency services, but as far as I know hasn't spoken to the gunman, if that is what he is. And you're quite right, if he was going to execute hostages he would have started by now. That's why I am inclined to think he is only doing this as an attention-seeking exercise, trying to make a name for himself.

That wasn't an ISIS flag he had them hold up, it was a generic flag that has been used by the Taliban and many Islamic terror groups (it is their religious slogan or "Shahada" and white and black are the favoured colours of their Prophet Mohamed).
 
That wasn't an ISIS flag he had them hold up, it was a generic flag that has been used by the Taliban and many Islamic terror groups (it is their religious slogan or "Shahada" and white and black are the favoured colours of their Prophet Mohamed).
I see. Thanks.
 
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