Terrorist commander Omar Khattab, of Indian-sponsored terrorist group TTP, has been killed by unknown gunmen

[Goenitz]

No, only Wahhabi Propaganda,
There is no Active Shia Groups in Pakistan,
I am not Shia, but i will only say, if you consider killing of shia or any other minority is right, even if some people of shia or other minority was doing same, then you are true @$$h0le

First grow up
then listen if your know Urdu...

 

[jamahir]

You misunderstood me, I said TTP are not same as Taliban because its TTP which is spreading the unrest in Pakistan not Taliban.

OK, I see your point.

And as for inhuman movements, you should be the last one to point fingers at Taliban or any other group, because your own state and RAW atrocities in Kashmir has been exposed brutally. Not to mention the torture and abuse, which ALL Muslims of India had been facing from BJP Govt and RSS goons supported by Modi and Mohan Bhagwat.

I am a Muslim and a Communist so double the dilemma in current India.

As for Kashmir, yes, it is a tragic situation there. And I have proposed a solution to that issue and towards finally ending the general India-Pakistan antagonism through introduction of a progressive political system in both countries. Please read my solution in this thread.

More to the point, another similar inhuman movement has be going on from decades by Israel on Palestinians.

Yes, the Palestinians have had injustice done on them from decades and that was recognized not only by Muslims but also by progressive non-Muslim revolutionaries or leaders from distant lands - from Japan to West Germany to Venezuela and elsewhere.

But, like Gaddafi said, we have to accept the existence of the Israeli jews too. Should they be attacked with nuclear weapons to make them vanish ? Is that practical ? Can they be wished away ?

So there are only two solutions to the Israel-Palestine issue :

1. The Two Nation Solution which the PLO had proposed years ago with the West Bank and Gaza having the 1967 borders ( map ).

2. One State Solution which will have a union of Israel and Palestine with the Muslims, Christians and Jews living in a single democratic country. Can be called Isratine, like Gaddafi proposed, or any other convenient name.

 

[BlueWhales]

Source please?

Their are snapshots where TTP leaders meeting Indian Intel officers. TTP is a terrorist outfit financed by or through NDS, RAW and other foreign intel agencies. There are solid evidences exist. Who is providing the funds to these intel agencies is of course a "debatable" question.

I am not saying ttp is not terrorist, i can ask the same please show some video proof that ttp is supported by nds and indian raaw, i agree bla, bra supported, funded, trained by indians, as you can watch their statements, they full support indians and indian politicians same,

but on other side ttp is group of al qaeda network, created and heavily funded by saudis..

 

[jamahir]

So called Tehrek e Taliban Pakistan is a fake Islamic outfit.

Agreed.

The outfit is basically hired mercenaries trained, equipped, financed and handled by RAW, MOSAAD, CIA and NDS.

Terrorists do not have their ideology, they do what they are told to do for money.

For these two quotes please read my subsequent replies from page# 1 onward.

 

[BlueWhales]

First grow up
then listen if your know Urdu...

Good Proof, Sindh Police

Same people who killed Naqeebullah Mehsood,you trust them ?

Rao Anwar ordered Naqeebullah’s disappearance, testifies witness

A prosecution witness testified before an anti-terrorism court on Thursday that Naqeebullah Mehsud had been picked up by the police, and that on the orders of then District Malir SSP Rao Anwar, he...

www.thenews.com.pk

 

[chauvunist]

 

[Goenitz]

Good Proof, Sindh Police

Hate to argue with teenagers.. That is an official press conference. Not some 'under the carpet' work.

 

[Marker]

No, only Wahhabi Propaganda,
There is no Active Shia Groups in Pakistan,
I am not Shia, but i will only say, if you consider killing of shia or any other minority is right, even if some people of shia or other minority was doing same, then you are true @$$h0le

You are mistaken.

Iran is involved in sectarian killings. Zainabiyoun Brigade is one the proxies working inside and outside Pakistan.

No sane person would like killing of innocents.

Those who are involved in terrorist activities and sectarian killing need to be neutralize. That is what our Intel agencies are efficiently and promptly doing inside and outside Pakistan.

 

[Kingslayerr]

Generally agree but what will you do about those types who shot Malala ? They are the drivers who believe in the movement's said-to-be ideology.

Simple those who are not giving up their arms are being eliminated through military and covert ops.

 

[Marker]

who were those caught by you ?
ram lal
ramesh
rajaram
rajesh
rajiv
were they citizens of india ?

Kulbhushan Jadhav

 

[masterchief_mirza]

@Zarvan, what is the ideology of the TTP ? I am not claiming knowledge of RAW but you are basically accusing RAW of providing encouragement of TTP's acts like the shooting of Malala and the Peshawar school attack.

Does RAW desire a Taliban state in Pakistan through the TTP which will go hand in hand with the RSS' desire to establish a Hindu Rashtra in India ? Contradictory, isn't it ?

You're a smart chap, hence I feel your question is deliberately leading. The objective of Hindustan is not a "Taliban state" per se. The objectives of Hindustan are simply to (a) malign and (b) destabilise what they regard to be the "usurped" nation of Pakistan. Even if they come to terms with Pakistan's reality, they would still wish to malign and destabilise it.

Why? Because Pakistan is a threat to Hindustan and always will thwart its attempts to rewrite subcontinental history.

 

[Areesh]

Sure.



Even if you are correct, TTP is just one of the elements, it is in fact the more prominent manifestation of a deeper problem. Even if you manage to remove the technical parts of TTP there will be the continued and unrepentant existence of Lal Masjid / Jamia Hafsa and other similar "non-militant" groups, leaders and individuals. That is the base problem.

Ideologies can be controlled if there is no foreign support and intervention. India shuts down its support to TTP and it dies sooner than later

 

[Marker]

Inna Lillahi wa Inna Illahi raajion

"Verily we belong to Allah, and verily to Him do we return.''

Only Will of Allah subhanahu wa taala will determine his fate in the next phase of life "Alim e Barzakh"!!!!

 

[Bil]

I am a Muslim and a Communist so double the dilemma in current India.

As for Kashmir, yes, it is a tragic situation there. And I have proposed a solution to that issue and towards finally ending the general India-Pakistan antagonism through introduction of a progressive political system in both countries. Please read my solution in this thread.

Apologies, I didnt know your background - who would understand struggle of Kashmiri and Muslims of India better then you.

Yes, the Palestinians have had injustice done on them from decades and that was recognized not only by Muslims but also by progressive non-Muslim revolutionaries or leaders from distant lands - from Japan to West Germany to Venezuela and elsewhere.

But, like Gaddafi said, we have to accept the existence of the Israeli jews too. Should they be attacked with nuclear weapons to make them vanish ? Is that practical ? Can they be wished away ?

So there are only two solutions to the Israel-Palestine issue :

1. The Two Nation Solution which the PLO had proposed years ago with the West Bank and Gaza having the 1967 borders ( map ).

2. One State Solution which will have a union of Israel and Palestine with the Muslims, Christians and Jews living in a single democratic country. Can be called Isratine, like Gaddafi proposed, or any other convenient name.

As for Israel-Palestine issue, from the above 2 option, I would opt no.1 (which is also stand of Pakistan). This way they can have their own country and nobody would've any issue with them. However, you and I we both know it will never get materialized, because they have bigger plans and working to achieve those and are in pursue to have greater Israel, which will have land from many neighboring Muslim countries (that means both above options are out of window).

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

@Zarvan, what is the ideology of the TTP ? I am not claiming knowledge of RAW but you are basically accusing RAW of providing encouragement of TTP's acts like the shooting of Malala and the Peshawar school attack.

Does RAW desire a Taliban state in Pakistan through the TTP which will go hand in hand with the RSS' desire to establish a Hindu Rashtra in India ? Contradictory, isn't it ?

The Indian State does not believe that groups like the TTP can overthrow the Pakistani State - not so distance history is testament to that. The closest the Taliban came was with their control over FATA & Swat and the Pakistani State neutralized them as a consequence.

The Indian goal behind supporting such groups is to destabilize Pakistan, further slow down its economic growth and development (which weakens Pakistan militarily as well) and leverage the violence by such groups in the international community to build a case against Pakistan’s possession of nuclear weapons, and even conventional weapons, by highlighting the potential risk of conventional & unconventional weapons falling into the hands of extremists groups.