Terror attack on military service bus in central Ankara leaves 28 dead, 61 wounded

[passo_del_bosniako]

Not Kurds; these are Marxist-Stalinists of the PKK. Their 'god' is Marx, and their 'prophet' is Stalin.

Turkey made two critical mistakes:

1. Not pursuing the Marxist-Stalinists after Ocalan was forced out of Syrian and then Russia due to pressure from the Turkish government

2. Letting down its guard when dealing with the Iranian and Syrian ruling regimes.

They are not even classical Marxist, its some batshit combination of rigid bolshevic stayle of Marxism and ulra-nationaist (one even can argue full on fascist) principles. the basicly combined worst of the worse of socialism & nationalism. Interestingly enough arab parties like Ba'ath are pritty much the same mix.

I have simpathy for a Kurdish ppl too. Cause in d end of d day they will probably be d bigggest victims of these idiots.

 

[GiannKall]

In my opinion NATO has betrayed Turkey. Legally speaking the inner security of Turkey should be top priority for NATO since the country is a member of NATO. Instead the west supports groups that want to harm Turkey. Clearly Obama has messed things up. No wonder why he wants to escape presidency like crazy. It would be very interesting to see what the next president is going to do

 

[libertycall]

They are not even classical Marxist, its some batshit combination of rigid bolshevic stayle of Marxism and ulra-nationaist (one even can argue full on fascist) principles. the basicly combined worst of the worse of socialism & nationalism. Interestingly enough arab parties like Ba'ath are pritty much the same mix.

I have simpathy for a Kurdish ppl too. Cause in d end of d day they will probably be d bigggest victims of these idiots.

I'm not sure that even Marx understood his own views He borrowed from so many people like Hegel and Feuerbach, that he either forgot, or pretended this collection of views was his own grand theory. And then Stalin being a practical thug with the heart of a muzhik but the soul of a kulak tried to make sense of them...

Those Kurdish people who are deluded enough to think that these terrorists will do them any favors don't understand that these people are nothing but useful idiots of the Kremlin and Bashar Barrelbomber....neither of whom care for Kurdish culture or welfare, and will happily sell them down the river just as they sold Ocalan when they came under pressure.

 

[passo_del_bosniako]

In my opinion NATO has betrayed Turkey. Legally speaking the inner security of Turkey should be top priority for NATO since the country is a member of NATO. Instead the west supports groups that want to harm Turkey. Clearly Obama has messed things up. No wonder why he wants to escape presidency like crazy. It would be very interesting to see what the next president is going to do

The russian grand strategy, seeing US utterly idiotic aproach to the event first and Ukraine then Syri, Kremlin is using Turkey to destroy NATO's credibilty as procter of every member nation cunting of d countinuation of US reluctancy to do they fuckin jon. Im sure that alot of members countries have their eyes of this. If NATO blinks on this, and doesnt send strong ,meesagge( And i dont mean in form of an angry press realise) NATO is good as finished.

Also, in d same time they are taking the aim on EU thru hyping up refuge crisis.

 

[u.MP]

PYD declaring war on Turkey..
http://www.dailysabah.com/war-on-te...key-in-syrias-amude-hometown-of-ankara-bomber

lets see if America will still support these idiots

 

[passo_del_bosniako]

I'm not sure that even Marx understood his own views He borrowed from so many people like Hegel and Feuerbach, that he either forgot, or pretended this collection of views was his own grand theory. And then Stalin being a practical thug with the heart of a muzhik but the soul of a kulak tried to make sense of them...

Those Kurdish people who are deluded enough to think that these terrorists will do them any favors don't understand that these people are nothing but useful idiots of the Kremlin and Bashar Barrelbomber....neither of whom care for Kurdish culture or welfare, and will happily sell them down the river just as they sold Ocalan when they came under pressure.

I'm not sure that even Marx understood his own views He borrowed from so many people like Hegel and Feuerbach, that he either forgot, or pretended this collection of views was his own grand theory. And then Stalin being a practical thug with the heart of a muzhik but the soul of a kulak tried to make sense of them...

Those Kurdish people who are deluded enough to think that these terrorists will do them any favors don't understand that these people are nothing but useful idiots of the Kremlin and Bashar Barrelbomber....neither of whom care for Kurdish culture or welfare, and will happily sell them down the river just as they sold Ocalan when they came under pressure.

Hahah, touche.

Well, they were just that from its creation by USSR. It will took time,sacrifaces, and political savy to solve PKK problem. Solution isnt just a militirly one... Turkey must take their most imprtant propaganda/recruting tool; no kurdish state.
I think that Tukey realizes this... I'll bet if KRG hoes for independece that Barzani will have Turkis massiv support. I wouldn dare to bet against Turkey beeing the first nation to recognize independance of KGR. Probably already doing on d plan; Too many high rankinkg regional official visited Erbil in d past few months...

 

[BordoEnes]

PYD declaring war on Turkey..
http://www.dailysabah.com/war-on-te...key-in-syrias-amude-hometown-of-ankara-bomber

lets see if America will still support these idiots

They will be finished in no time if this is true. This gives Turkey complete legitimacy to invade and destroy PYD.

 

[u.MP]

They will be finished in no time if this is true. This gives Turkey complete legitimacy to invade and destroy PYD.

The problem is that Russia has promised to defend PYD if Turkey invades so we will see what happens.

 

[libertycall]

Hahah, touche.

Well, they were just that from its creation by USSR. It will took time,sacrifaces, and political savy to solve PKK problem. Solution isnt just a militirly one... Turkey must take their most imprtant propaganda/recruting tool; no kurdish state.
I think that Tukey realizes this... I'll bet if KRG hoes for independece that Barzani will have Turkis massiv support. I wouldn dare to bet against Turkey beeing the first nation to recognize independance of KGR. Probably already doing on d plan; Too many high rankinkg regional official visited Erbil in d past few months...

The mistake Turkey made was that it played nice when the neighborhood doesn't play nice. It didn't seize a golden chance to let the Kurds declare a state in Northern Iraq and offer them support in return for guarantees giving Turkey maximum support and a free-hand in dealing with the Marxist-Stalinists.

- It believed that the Iranians wanted peace, when the Iranians want hegemony.
- It believed Washington wanted democracy in Syria, when.. *cough*...well we can see what Washington can live with..lol
- It believed Bashar cared about Arab nationalism, when all Bashar cares about is his sect.
- It believed Russia would not interfere, when Russia wants chaos in the middle-east to push up the price of oil.

Either Turkey quickly becomes equally as ruthless and aggressive in pursuit of its goals or it will suffer a disaster.

 

[Bismarck]

Have you think about Nato Art.5?

 

[Oublious]

The problem is that Russia has promised to defend PYD if Turkey invades so we will see what happens.

Bluf, nothing more and they are barking a lot of.

 

[BordoEnes]

The problem is that Russia has promised to defend PYD if Turkey invades so we will see what happens.

I doubt Russia will risk war over some ragtag terrorists.

 

[libertycall]

Bluf, nothing more and they are barking a lot of.

Is Turkey full of Turks or some other group??

 

[GiannKall]

Russia has a problem since the Ukraine conflict is still open. They cannot move many of their elite units in Syria(they must pass throught the tukish straits bty...). Turkey on the other hand doesnt need to invade. Only through selling and artillery attacks can do quite the damage

 

[BordoEnes]

Is Turkey full of Turks or some other group??

There is only Turks in Turkey. Anyone who is a citizen of Turkey is a Turk. But if you mean ethnic groups then yeah we have dosens.