Terror attack in christmas market in Berlin

[Clutch]

So convenient. When you want to look fair and tall , present the Pashtuns as Pakistanis , keep the karachi wallahs under the carpet , but when their is some trouble , all Pashtuns are Afghans. ✌.

Nah... Pakistanis aren't responsible for most terror attacks... it's mostly afghans or arabs.

 

[Areesh]

So convenient. When you want to look fair and tall , present the Pashtuns as Pakistanis , keep the karachi wallahs under the carpet , but when their is some trouble , all Pashtuns are Afghans. ✌.

Yes that guy was a Pakistani.

So? What are you going to do about it?

Score some brownie points on death of 12 humans?

 

[Clutch]

maybe he was from Pashtunistan then.

Nah... i doubt he is Pakistani... afghan most probably

 

[Clutch]

khush to aap ko hona chahiye, shukar hai isne jihad Germany me kia, Pakistan mein nahi.

It's not a Pakistani guy. Nothing to do with us. ... afghan reject probably.

 

[Zaem]

It's not a Pakistani guy. Nothing to do with us. ... afghan reject probably.

Nice how you Pakistanis know that he was Afghani, care to give any more sources other than IMOs.

Honestly, I don't care about the Pakistani bit so much. Our friend Areesh seems to believe I got pleasure out of reading that, I didn't, it's the same breed of animals who kill you in your country and against whom your army is also fighting.

The bigger point here is about Germany and the continuing refugee disaster, these people are insane for having let in millions of these guys from the most dangerous places into their country. They aren't going to assimilate, they'll strain the welfare system and use it as a lifestyle rather than a safety net, more mass sexual violence, more jihad. Not looking good for Germany, until they kick Merkel out and replace her with a strongman.

Sadly itll most likely be far right candidate. Theyre just as bad as far left.
Middle path would be great

 

[barbarosa]

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It's not a Pakistani guy. Nothing to do with us. ... afghan reject probably.[/QUOTE
Afghani with Pakistani passport?

 

[Penguin]

My my what a marvelous achievement. Really something to be proud of. Congratulations.

 

[Devil Soul]

12 killed in ‘probable terrorist attack’ in Berlin Christmas market
59 mins ago


Berlin, Dec 20, 2016 (AFP) – German police said Tuesday they were treating as “a probable terrorist attack” the killing of 12 people when a lorry ploughed through a packed Berlin Christmas market.

Dozens more were wounded Monday when the truck tore through the crowd, smashing through wooden stalls and crushing victims, in scenes reminiscent of July’s deadly attack in the French Riviera city of Nice.

Police detained the man believed to have deliberately crashed the heavy vehicle loaded with steel beams into the festive market in a area popular with tourists near the capital’s iconic Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Church.

The man behind the wheel was an asylum seeker believed to be from Afghanistan or Pakistan who arrived in Germany in February, according to security sources cited by DPA news agency.

A Polish man, thought to have been the truck’s registered driver, was found dead on the passenger seat, and police said he had not steered the vehicle.

Twelve people were killed and 48 others injured as the lorry tore through the market for as far as 80 metres (yards) in the incident which came less than a week before Christmas.

“I don’t want to use the word ‘attack’ yet, although there are many things pointing to one,” said Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere hours later.

Berlin police early Tuesday said they presumed the lorry was “intentionally steered” into the crowd and called the bloody carnage a “probable terrorist attack”.

One of the survivors, Australian Trisha O’Neill, said she was only metres from “this huge black truck speeding through the markets crushing so many people”.

“I could hear screaming and then we all froze. Then suddenly people started to move and lift all the wreckage off people, trying to help whoever was there,” she told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

O’Neill said there was “blood and bodies everywhere”.

Chancellor Angela Merkel reacted quickly, with spokesman Steffen Seibert tweeting: “We mourn the dead and hope that the many people injured can be helped.”

A German police spokeswoman told AFP that a man who was apparently driving the truck had been detained while the passenger was dead.

The daily Tagesspiegel said the man behind the wheel was known to police but for minor crimes, not links to terrorism.

Police later identified the passenger as a Polish national, while the Polish owner of the lorry confirmed his driver was missing.

“We haven’t heard from him since this afternoon. We don’t know what happened to him,” transport company owner Ariel Zurawski told AFP on Monday evening.

“He’s my cousin, I’ve known him since I was a kid. I can vouch for him.”

Lukasz Wasik of the same company said contact was lost with the 37-year-old at around 3 pm (1400 GMT).

Traditional Christmas markets are popular in cities and towns throughout Germany and have frequently been mentioned by security services as potentially vulnerable to attacks.

“It’s awful. We were in Berlin for Christmas,” said American tourist Kathy Forbes. “We also thought it would be safer than Paris.”

The crash happened at a square at the end of the Kurfuerstendamm boulevard in the shadow of the Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Church whose damage in a World War II bombing raid has been preserved as a reminder of the horrors of war for future generations.

Europe has been on high alert for most of 2016, with terror attacks striking Paris and Brussels, while Germany has been hit by several assaults claimed by the Islamic State group and carried out by asylum-seekers.

An axe rampage on a train in the southern state of Bavaria in July wounded five people, and a suicide bombing left 15 people injured in the same state six days later.

In another case, a 16-year-old German-Moroccan girl in February stabbed a police officer in the neck with a kitchen knife, wounding him badly, allegedly on IS orders.

The arrival of 890,000 refugees last year has polarised Germany, with critics calling the influx a serious security threat.

The attack in Berlin comes five months after Tunisian extremist Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel ploughed a truck into a crowd on the Nice seafront, killing 86 people.

In response to the suspected attack in Berlin, France beefed up security at its own Christmas markets.

“The French share in the mourning of the Germans in the face of this tragedy that has hit all of Europe,” President Francois Hollande said.

The Nice bloodshed — as people were watching a fireworks display on the Bastille Day holiday on July 14 — further traumatised a France already reeling from a series of jihadist attacks.

The United States labelled Monday’s incident an apparent “terrorist attack” and pledged its support.

President-elect Donald Trump blamed “Islamist terrorists” for a “slaughter” of Christians in the German capital.

 

[Devil Soul]

Police storm Berlin's former airport used as refugee home - media
RREUTERS
December 20, 2016

German magazine Focus said on Tuesday that police special forces were storming a hangar at Berlin's defunct Tempelhof airport, which now houses a refugee accommodation centre.

On Monday evening a truck ploughed into a crowd at a Berlin Christmas market, killing 12 people and injuring 48 others. Police say they suspect it was a terrorist attack.

German media cited local security sources as saying that there was evidence suggesting the arrested suspect was from Afghanistan or Pakistan and had entered Germany as a refugee.

Neither police nor prosecutors were immediately available for comment.

 

[Desertfalcon]

German Die Welt is reporting as breaking news that the Berlin attack suspect is a 23 year old Pakistani national, releasing only his first name and initial: Naved "B", who entered Germany on 16 Feb. 2016.


https://www.welt.de/politik/deutsch...-wohl-in-Berliner-Fluechtlingsunterkunft.html

https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/live160453735/SEK-stuermt-Hangar-am-Flughafen-Tempelhof.html

 

[Devil Soul]

21m ago07:53
Berlin truck 'terrorist attack': 12 killed in Christmas market crash – live

• Police say they believe truck ‘deliberately’ driven into crowd
• Twelve people killed and 48 injured at Berlin’s Breitscheidplatz
  
• Suspect arrested after truck ‘stolen’ in Poland
  
• Full report: suspect held and 12 dead in truck crash, officials say

What we know so far

Claire Phipps

• Police have confirmed that they are treating an incident at Berlin’s Breitscheidplatz on Monday night as a “presumed terrorist attack”, saying they are working on the assumption that a truck was “intentionally” driven into a Christmas market.
• Twelve people are confirmed to have died after a truck ploughed into crowds at around 8.15pm (7.15pm GMT) on Monday evening.
• A further 48 people have been taken to hospital with injuries, some of them serious. Eyewitnesses said the truck drove into the market at speed, crushing visitors.
• A suspect was arrested 2km from the scene and is being interrogated. No details of his identity have been released. Police said they would hold a press conference at 1pm Tuesday (noon GMT).
  
• Early on Tuesday morning, police reportedly raided a a hangar at the disused Tempelhof airport in southern Berlin, part of which is currently housing refugees.

Police stand in front of the truck that ploughed into a crowded Christmas market in the German capital on Monday night. Photograph: Hannibal Hanschke/Reuters

• Police said a man found dead inside the truck, identified as a Polish citizen, was not the person who drove it into the market.
• The Polish company that owns the truck said its 37-year-old driver, who was transporting steel beams, had been due to take a break in Berlin but had not been heard from since early Monday afternoon.
• Berlin police said they were investigating if the truck was stolen from a construction site in Poland, but other reports said it was returning to Poland from Italy.
• The White House condemned what it said “appears to have been a terrorist attack”. US president-elect Donald Trump called it a “horrifying terror attack”, blaming “Isis and other Islamist terrorists [who] continually slaughter Christians in their communities and places of worship”.
• But Germany’s interior minister, Thomas de Maizière, urged caution:

There is a psychological effect in the whole country of the choice of words here, and we want to be very, very cautious and operate close to the actual investigation results, not with speculation.

• The US state department issued a warning in November for travellers in Europe of a heightened risk of terror attacks at Christmas-related events, including markets, by Isis, al-Qaida and affiliates.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/dec/19/berlin-truck-crash-christmas-market-live

 

[barbarosa]

12 killed in ‘probable terrorist attack’ in Berlin Christmas market
59 mins ago


Berlin, Dec 20, 2016 (AFP) – German police said Tuesday they were treating as “a probable terrorist attack” the killing of 12 people when a lorry ploughed through a packed Berlin Christmas market.

Dozens more were wounded Monday when the truck tore through the crowd, smashing through wooden stalls and crushing victims, in scenes reminiscent of July’s deadly attack in the French Riviera city of Nice.

Police detained the man believed to have deliberately crashed the heavy vehicle loaded with steel beams into the festive market in a area popular with tourists near the capital’s iconic Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Church.

The man behind the wheel was an asylum seeker believed to be from Afghanistan or Pakistan who arrived in Germany in February, according to security sources cited by DPA news agency.

A Polish man, thought to have been the truck’s registered driver, was found dead on the passenger seat, and police said he had not steered the vehicle.

Twelve people were killed and 48 others injured as the lorry tore through the market for as far as 80 metres (yards) in the incident which came less than a week before Christmas.

“I don’t want to use the word ‘attack’ yet, although there are many things pointing to one,” said Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere hours later.

Berlin police early Tuesday said they presumed the lorry was “intentionally steered” into the crowd and called the bloody carnage a “probable terrorist attack”.

One of the survivors, Australian Trisha O’Neill, said she was only metres from “this huge black truck speeding through the markets crushing so many people”.

“I could hear screaming and then we all froze. Then suddenly people started to move and lift all the wreckage off people, trying to help whoever was there,” she told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

O’Neill said there was “blood and bodies everywhere”.

Chancellor Angela Merkel reacted quickly, with spokesman Steffen Seibert tweeting: “We mourn the dead and hope that the many people injured can be helped.”

A German police spokeswoman told AFP that a man who was apparently driving the truck had been detained while the passenger was dead.

The daily Tagesspiegel said the man behind the wheel was known to police but for minor crimes, not links to terrorism.

Police later identified the passenger as a Polish national, while the Polish owner of the lorry confirmed his driver was missing.

“We haven’t heard from him since this afternoon. We don’t know what happened to him,” transport company owner Ariel Zurawski told AFP on Monday evening.

“He’s my cousin, I’ve known him since I was a kid. I can vouch for him.”

Lukasz Wasik of the same company said contact was lost with the 37-year-old at around 3 pm (1400 GMT).

Traditional Christmas markets are popular in cities and towns throughout Germany and have frequently been mentioned by security services as potentially vulnerable to attacks.

“It’s awful. We were in Berlin for Christmas,” said American tourist Kathy Forbes. “We also thought it would be safer than Paris.”

The crash happened at a square at the end of the Kurfuerstendamm boulevard in the shadow of the Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Church whose damage in a World War II bombing raid has been preserved as a reminder of the horrors of war for future generations.

Europe has been on high alert for most of 2016, with terror attacks striking Paris and Brussels, while Germany has been hit by several assaults claimed by the Islamic State group and carried out by asylum-seekers.

An axe rampage on a train in the southern state of Bavaria in July wounded five people, and a suicide bombing left 15 people injured in the same state six days later.

In another case, a 16-year-old German-Moroccan girl in February stabbed a police officer in the neck with a kitchen knife, wounding him badly, allegedly on IS orders.

The arrival of 890,000 refugees last year has polarised Germany, with critics calling the influx a serious security threat.

The attack in Berlin comes five months after Tunisian extremist Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel ploughed a truck into a crowd on the Nice seafront, killing 86 people.

In response to the suspected attack in Berlin, France beefed up security at its own Christmas markets.

“The French share in the mourning of the Germans in the face of this tragedy that has hit all of Europe,” President Francois Hollande said.

The Nice bloodshed — as people were watching a fireworks display on the Bastille Day holiday on July 14 — further traumatised a France already reeling from a series of jihadist attacks.

The United States labelled Monday’s incident an apparent “terrorist attack” and pledged its support.

President-elect Donald Trump blamed “Islamist terrorists” for a “slaughter” of Christians in the German capital.

The whole world is facing to terror attacks by refuge people, Pakistan is facing since 1980, I wonder why Pak govt is not interesting in the sending of Afghan refuges to their homeland?

 

[foxtrot1]

The whole world is facing to terror attacks by refuge people, Pakistan is facing since 1980, I wonder why Pak govt is not interesting in the sending of Afghan refuges to their homeland?

In EU many pakistani themselves are refugees and this problem is not refugee related but religion related.

 

[T-72]

Sadly itll most likely be far right candidate. Theyre just as bad as far left.
Middle path would be great

What exactly is far right ?

Seems to me anyone nationalist who is for national sovereignty and border and immigration control gets labelled 'far' right in Europe. Take Le Penn for example, it's wrong to label her an extremist etc.

The left has overplayed it's hand in Europe over these past decades, what we're seeing now is a natural restoration of order as more and more people switch sides and vote right as liberal authoritarian ideas fall out of favor with the native people.

 

[hussain0216]

May be whatever you are saying is correct but you cannot explain this to the any face on street. Things have already polarized.

And why EU, germany? the french british and us did the job in Baghdad. and other places.
People not liking Islam and its a fact for Muslims.

Matey, do you want to know the point of AQ or ISIS or any of the extremists?

its to basically instigate a backlash against Muslims

The muslim world is plenty powerful its at a natural low ebb however

power though comes and goes

The extremists know they and their actions at best are a pin prick (they couldn't of have imagined they could have got this far in iraq and Syria though)

What they want is CHANGE in the muslim world towards a right wing, Conservative anti non Muslim world view

but they cant get that partially because of the west but MAINLY because muslim countries themselves have politicians and dictators who are secular or liberal etc



So the main reason for extremists to do attacks such as 911 or Yesterday's berlin attack is to instigste a response and backlash against ordinary muslims


and its working
the basic liberalism of the west that made it so tolerable is beginning to slip
so the first victory of the extremists was to change the very basis and nature of society and to erode the very rights and tolerance that encourage the globalised intergrated world of today

when that happens their will be an increasing backlash against muslims AND ALL IMMIGRANTS including hindus it will beca gradual snowballing effect

this will then be reciprocated with anger and hatred in the muslim world
As their people are harmed or attacked or insulted the narrative of the extremists becomes more valid and attractive

and this isxthe exact plan of Aq, isis and the rest of them and its working