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It is a mess. They have blundered from the word go. The whole story has took twists and turns from the word go.

It is an outrage they even have to mention that he is from a certain country. Mentioning a specific country looks like they are trying to malign a whole country.

You know how it is in the current media climate...no time to go slow and steady. Nothing stays quiet....they went with no confirmation of suspect nationality for a few hours - yet journalists were quoting unnamed sources with Pakistan/Afghanistan.

So - I understand why they did what they did....as for a country getting maligned - this is the world we live in today. Be it Pakistan or some other country - when it comes to muslim terrorists, we as muslims are all held to account..as immigrants and whatever the nation of origin may be.

Just gotta take it on the chin and move on...
 
German police think that the man from Pakistan who was arrested as a suspect in the attack on a Berlin Christmas market that killed 12 people on Monday was not the actual perpetrator, Die Welt newspaper reported, citing senior security sources.

“We have the wrong man,” said a senior police chief. “And therefore a new situation. The true perpetrator is still armed, at large and can cause fresh damage,” the paper quoted the source as saying.

Earlier, the man who plowed a truck into a crowded Christmas market was identified as a Pakistani refugee.

German newspaper Bild cited security sources as saying the suspect in Berlin Christmas market incident was a 23-year-old from Pakistan named Naved B. He arrived in Germany a year ago. The suspect had a temporary residence permit since June 2016, German newspaper Die Welt cited a criminal police report as saying.

Nine killed as truck rams into Berlin Christmas market

The Pakistani refugee is said to have arrived in the country in February 2016. However, the suspect believed to be the driver denied involvement in the attack, Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere.

“He denies the act,” de Maiziere told journalists, adding that the suspect is Pakistani and had arrived in Germany on December 31, 2015, seeking asylum.

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Police said on Twitter that they had taken one suspect into custody and that another passenger from the truck had died as it crashed into people gathered around wooden huts serving mulled wine and sausages at the foot of the Kaiser Wilhelm memorial church in the heart of former West Berlin. However, police said the nationality of the suspected driver, who fled the crash scene and was later arrested, was unclear.

Pictures from the scene showed Christmas decorations protruding from the smashed windscreen of the black truck. In the aftermath, it was resting lopsided on the pavement with a mangled Christmas tree beneath its wheels.

Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere said the circumstances of the crash were still unclear, adding, “I don’t want to use the word ‘attack’ yet although a lot points to that.”

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Berlin police assume truck was deliberately driven into Christmas market

Berlin police said on Tuesday that investigators assume the driver of a truck that ploughed into a crowd at a Berlin Christmas market, killing 12 people and injuring 48 others, did so intentionally in a suspected terrorist attack.

“Our investigators assume that the truck was deliberately steered into the crowd at the Christmas market at Breitscheidplatz,” police said on Twitter. “All police measures related to the suspected terrorist attack at Breitscheidplatz are progressing at full steam and with the necessary diligence,” police said.

The incident evoked memories of an attack in Nice, France in July when a Tunisian-born man drove a 19-tonne truck along the beach front, mowing down people who had gathered to watch the fireworks on Bastille Day, killing 86 people. That attack was claimed by Islamic State.

US President-elect Donald Trump condemned what he called an attack, linking it to “Islamist terrorists” before German police officials had said who was responsible.

The White House on Monday condemned what it called “what appears to have been a terrorist attack.”

Germany has not in recent years suffered a large-scale attack from militants like those seen in neighboring Belgium and France.

But it was shaken by two smaller attacks in Bavaria over the summer, one on a train near Wuerzburg and another at a music festival in Ansbach that wounded 20 people. Both were claimed by Islamic State.

And government officials have said the country, which accepted nearly 900,000 migrants last year, many from the war-torn Middle East, lies in the “crosshairs of terrorism.”

In mid-October, police arrested a Syrian refugee suspected of planning a bomb attack on an airport in Berlin. The 22-year-old man committed suicide in prison shortly after his arrest.

A government spokesperson said Chancellor Angela Merkel was briefed on the situation by de Maiziere and the Berlin mayor. Police said there were no indications of further dangerous situations in the area and urged people to stay away from the scene.

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“I’m deeply shaken about the horrible news of what occurred at the memorial church in Berlin,” Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said.

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on Tuesday condemned the suspected mass terror attack. Extending his heartfelt condolences to the government and people of Germany, PM Nawaz said, “Pakistanis share the grief of German people and stand by them in this painful time. Terrorism is our common enemy and the world needs to put up a joint fight against this menace.”
http://tribune.com.pk/story/1268738/berlin-attacker-pakistani-refugee-german-media/

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Berlin terror attack: Perpetrator 'still at large and has a weapon' as police admit they may not have arrested the right man

German police believe they arrested the wrong man over the Berlin terror attack and the real culprit could still be at large, a German newspaper has claimed, adding the real perpetrator could be armed and dangerous.

"We have the wrong man," an unnamed police source told Welt newspaper. "This means the situation is different. The real culprit is still armed and can commit further atrocities."

A man arrested on Monday night under suspicion of ploughing a 7-tonne truck through a Christmas market in the heart of Berlin, killing 12, was named in German media reports as Naved Baluch, a 23-year-old asylum seeker of Pakistani origin.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...tack-suspect-named-23-year-old-asylum-seeker/

PS: named Baluch and an asylum seeker, must be a Balochi separatist.
 
Breaking news
Pakistani is not involved in truck attack according to police.
Attacker still at large.
 
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LIVE: Berlin terror attack: Perpetrator 'still at large and has a weapon' as police admit they may not have arrested the right man
 
Neither can we say that he is a Pakistani so let's get that fact straight as well. Those that make false accusations without proper facts deserve criticism. I'm not going to calm down because we know how the Indians behave on this forum. They deserve this bashing because they are the ones who started blaming Pakistanis and acting like they are angels. It is for everyone to read. It is easy to hand out empty threats about suspicion and what not. Well, you get what you deserve.
I'm sure Die Welt would not have published that information if they didn't have a solid source for it. I don't doubt this Navid fellow is from Pakistan as Die Welt says, but it is always a wise precaution to await further confirmation e.g. from Pakistan's government before adding all sort of accusations en recriminations (although, realistically, you would have to also consider the possibility that this government has a motive to find otherwise)

PS. Please tell those Indians to calm down who blame Pakistan. I'm not the one going around making false accusations.

I believe my exact words were: "So, let's all calm down and wait for more information."
Source: https://defence.pk/threads/german-c...m-pakistan-report.467809/page-7#ixzz4TNooqe9L

Then, you tell me who is right? The source that you reported or CNN? There are a lot of conflicting reports.
I have more trust in Die Welt then CNN, frankly.
 
German police believe they arrested the wrong man over the Berlin terror attack and the real culprit could still be at large, a German newspaper has claimed, adding the real perpetrator could be armed and dangerous.

"We have the wrong man," an unnamed police source told Welt newspaper. "This means the situation is different. The real culprit is still armed and can commit further atrocities."

A man arrested on Monday night under suspicion of ploughing a 7-tonne truck through a Christmas market in the heart of Berlin, killing 12, was named in German media reports as Naved Baluch, a 23-year-old asylum seeker of Pakistani origin.
 
It does, but I don't know what it is. Something very difficult and damaging most likely.

The Pakistani guy is innocent anyway so let's see how this episode plays out.

A solution that is impossible to implement effectively, or a solution that is is implementable but not effective, is not really a solution, Sir, to the grave issues faced by Pakistan.

As I always say, let us wait for the investigation to complete, for the present incident.
 
Good thing he's not a Pakistani. I know what you are thinking but but he was moozlim. No its not the same thing. I'm glad Pakistanis had little to do with recent attack all over Europe.
 
Great news guy's. It looks like it was not a Pakistani. After the incident the police could have scooped up Naved Baluch just because of his ethnicity. Things like this happen when you have such high tension. Great news not of course in anyway changing the death of the innocents but at least no Pakistani was involved.
 
Berlin attack: Police uncertain detained suspect drove lorry
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German police say they are unsure if a man they have in custody was behind Monday's lorry attack in Berlin that killed 12 and wounded 48 others.

"It is in fact uncertain whether that really was the driver," Berlin police head Klaus Kandt said on Tuesday.

The man detained, who has denied involvement, arrived in Germany from Pakistan at the end of last year.

He was captured in a park 2km away after reportedly fleeing the popular Christmas market in west Berlin.

Mrs Merkel has vowed to punish those responsible for the Berlin attack "as harshly as the law requires".
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38379157
 
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