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Terminal velocity: China tests world's longest high-speed rail line

really amazing developments!!
Chinese are doing really well in high speed rail. good for them.
 
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And what were people taking before their road system improved - trains. What were they taking 20 years ago before their airport infrastructure improved - trains.

I think it is logical that these two modes of transportation are hurting train ridership.

Arguably you are comparing with the US system which has not deployed high speed systems right? Big advantage of planes was always speed- high speed systems give a good alternative. Of course their air traffic will only increase considering their population. But I think trains will still be strong. Notably also because their per capita income is still below US levels and therefore 'cheaper' will still have a great draw for them.

Hope two brother nations be connected by the HSR soon in the future.

Oh the LOUUUUVEEEEEEEEE :lol:
 
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China's aviation industry is not that bad either,we are catching up. now China has some of the best airports in the world and new airports construction is booming all across China. check it out.

beijing international airport - SkyscraperCity
Thats the point. Americans can do very well with Roads an Planes that 240 speed is more than enough for them. Chinese has their own needs and plans. No point comparing Chinese stuff with USA coz if they want they can build much faster trains then you guyz.
 
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Arguably you are comparing with the US system which has not deployed high speed systems right? Big advantage of planes was always speed- high speed systems give a good alternative. Of course their air traffic will only increase considering their population. But I think trains will still be strong. Notably also because their per capita income is still below US levels and therefore 'cheaper' will still have a great draw for them.



Oh the LOUUUUVEEEEEEEEE :lol:


China and India needs trains.

We are different, not just because of money, but we need as many methods of transportation as possible.

Can you imagine the highways with nothing but cars, and plane tickets booked until next year, and delays all the time.

The delays is sort of happening now.

So another fast way to transport people will not only be popular but also needed for countries like ours.
 
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China and India needs trains.

We are different, not just because of money, but we need as many methods of transportation as possible.

Can you imagine the highways with nothing but cars, and plane tickets booked until next year, and delays all the time.

The delays is sort of happening now.

So another fast way to transport people will not only be popular but also needed for countries like ours.
Trains can transport quickly and if managed right -- cheaply. But the main reason for that is the train have a monopoly on the medium -- rails. No one else can ride on the rails. The downside is that the train is nowhere as flexible as the car, and once an eagerly prosperous people, especially the upper middle class and the one-percenters, have a taste of that flexibility, they will not confine themselves to the train.

So if China wants to limit the use of the car and increase the use of the train, the Chinese government will have to be coercive, as in limit the manufacturing/importation of the car. The government will also have to make train schedules as ultra reliable as possible because the Chinese government have both restricted and removed access to the inherent flexibility of the car.

Like it or not, it was the automobile and the Interstate highway system that led to the post WW II economic boom in the US. Yes, rail did contributed and so did aviation, but as long as fortunes, large and small, continues to be ground based, the people will prefers the flexibility of the car to meet customers' demands and people lives in places that neither the train nor the aircraft can go. Rail will be for volume transport between major economic centers. Aviation will be better for rapid transport between the same.
 
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Trains can transport quickly and if managed right -- cheaply. But the main reason for that is the train have a monopoly on the medium -- rails. No one else can ride on the rails. The downside is that the train is nowhere as flexible as the car, and once an eagerly prosperous people, especially the upper middle class and the one-percenters, have a taste of that flexibility, they will not confine themselves to the train.

So if China wants to limit the use of the car and increase the use of the train, the Chinese government will have to be coercive, as in limit the manufacturing/importation of the car. The government will also have to make train schedules as ultra reliable as possible because the Chinese government have both restricted and removed access to the inherent flexibility of the car.

Like it or not, it was the automobile and the Interstate highway system that led to the post WW II economic boom in the US. Yes, rail did contributed and so did aviation, but as long as fortunes, large and small, continues to be ground based, the people will prefers the flexibility of the car to meet customers' demands and people lives in places that neither the train nor the aircraft can go. Rail will be for volume transport between major economic centers. Aviation will be better for rapid transport between the same.


Just as clueless as always, Germany's track system is owned by the state, so is also the Deutsche Bahn (DB), but there are plenty of private owned railway companies that rent the tracks just as the DB has to rent the tracks from the state as well. I regularly use non-DB trains to travel within Germany, sometimes with an interchange from one train company to another with the same ticket as we have a unified ticket system for all railway companies.

China can learn from our railway system and maybe even improve it.
 
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Just as clueless as always, Germany's track system is owned by the state, so is also the Deutsche Bahn (DB), but there are plenty of private owned railway companies that rent the tracks just as the DB has to rent the tracks from the state as well. I regularly use non-DB trains to travel within Germany, sometimes with an interchange from one train company to another with the same ticket as we have a unified ticket system for all railway companies.

China can learn from our railway system and maybe even improve it.
:lol: In your eagerness to suck up to the Chinese, you completely missed the point. But that is usual for your type.

My post was not about who owns the rail companies, it was about CIVIL ENGINEERING.

Can any of your German rail cars get you to your front door? Or how about deliver pizzas in thirty minutes or less?
 
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Can any one tell me what place is in last pic post #51
 
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:lol: In your eagerness to suck up to the Chinese, you completely missed the point. But that is usual for your type.

My post was not about who owns the rail companies, it was about CIVIL ENGINEERING.

Can any of your German rail cars get you to your front door? Or how about deliver pizzas in thirty minutes or less?

No, but does it matter so much? Here in Europe we have a sophisticated railway infrastructure and at the same time we have a great automobile (not the ridiculously fugly gas petrol guzzlers the US has) and competitive aviation industry. Not only that, even with a high car ownership rate, many people, even the upper class, use regularly public transportation, ride a bike or walk. A luxury that most Americans don't have and don't know.

A lot of young people don't even want to have their own private car anymore since there are hassle free alternatives like Hello Hamburg where you just pick up a car nearby and drive. It's the combination of transportation modes that will gives us the choice and the freedom.

Oh, don't worry, there will still be food delivery by car or scooters in the future, but for long travels we have cool and well designed trains, bus, cars and planes.
 
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looks nice...is it expensive?

I know some professor and also some Post doc loved their trip to China and had the opportunity to experience the train...
 
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looks nice...is it expensive?

I know some professor and also some Post doc loved their trip to China and had the opportunity to experience the train...

ofc it is expensive else india pak bangladesh all would have high speed trains right now lol
 
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China population is over a billion, speed rail can transport large number of the population, also lower the used of car on the road, reduce air population.
 
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