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The Crusades were a series of religious expeditionary wars blessed by the Pope and the Catholic Church, with the stated goal of restoring Christian access to the holy places in and near Jerusalem. The Crusades were originally launched in response to a call from the leaders of the Byzantine Empire for help to fight the expansion into Anatolia of Muslim Seljuk Turks who had cut off access to Jerusalem. The crusaders comprised military units of Roman Catholics from all over western Europe, and were not under unified command. The main series of Crusades, primarily against Muslims, occurred between 1095 and 1291.

There were 9 Crusades conducted, after failures of each of the former ones. Ultimately, the Crusades failed to gain any permanent influence of the areas they wanted to capture (Levant, Jerusalem etc). Muslims gained the upper hand against these Crusades.

Crusaders submitting to Saladin after being defeated:

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The last 'official' 9th Crusade:

The future Edward I of England undertook another expedition against Baibars in 1271, after having accompanied Louis on the Eighth Crusade. Louis died in Tunisia. The Ninth Crusade was deemed a failure and ended the Crusades in the Middle East.[50]

In their later years, faced with the threat of the Egyptian Mamluks, the Crusaders' hopes rested with a Franco-Mongol alliance. The Ilkhanate's Mongols were thought to be sympathetic to Christianity, and the Frankish princes were most effective in gathering their help, engineering their invasions of the Middle East on several occasions.[51] Although the Mongols successfully attacked as far south as Damascus on these campaigns, the ability to effectively coordinate with Crusades from the west was repeatedly frustrated most notably at the Battle of Ain Jalut in 1260. The Mamluks, led by Baibars, eventually made good their pledge to cleanse the entire Middle East of the Franks. With the fall of Antioch (1268), Tripoli (1289), and Acre (1291), those Christians unable to leave the cities were massacred or enslaved and the last traces of Christian rule in the Levant disappeared.[52][53]


The 10th Crusade:

Asia Times

The Arab world remembers well the words that British General Allenby, a descendent of the English Crusaders, uttered when he entered Jerusalem on December 9, 1917, "The Crusades have ended now!" Similarly, it has not forgotten either the content or the tone of the statements made by French General Henri Gouraud when he entered Damascus in July 1920. Striding to Saladin's tomb next to the Grand Mosque, Gouraud kicked it and exclaimed, "Awake Saladin, we have returned. My presence here consecrates the victory of the Cross over the Crescent."

Right after the terrorist attacks of September 11, Bush referred to the war against terrorism as a "crusade". His critics were quick to exploit what was probably an inadvertent misuse of the term. The term played right into the theme that bin Laden had been laying out for years.

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Saladin's tomb, which the french general kicked and shouted "Awake Saladin! we have returned. My presence here consecrates the victory of the Cross over the Crescent."

Your views? Do you consider this a crusade, as referred to by General Allenby, the French general and GW Bush??
 
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Sure, at that time at least all muslims recognised who their enemies were. Nobody sided with Crusaders. Maybe that is why we were victorious over them.

Yeah, but now a segment among us is completely supporting them. I hope they will soon change their ways.
 
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Saladin (Salahuddin Al Ayubbi) Sword
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Saladin (Salahuddin Al Ayubbi) sword, the Kurdish Muslim general and warrior from Tikrit. This sword made from Damascus steel very hard but flexible because it has a content of CNTs (carbon nanotubes). He said this is very sharp sword, sharp enough to easily pierce armor Renald de chatilon.
Salahuddin popular among Muslims and Christians because of his leadership, military strength, and nature of the knights and forgiving when he fought against the crusaders. Sultan Salahuddin Al Ayubbi is also a cleric. He provides footnotes and a variety of explanations in the book of hadeeth of Abu Dawud. Now this sword is a private collection Shahhi family in the UAE. It costs about $555,000

Arabs Should unite with the Kurds to regain the Lost Glory.
 
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Sure, at that time at least all muslims recognised who their enemies were. Nobody sided with Crusaders. Maybe that is why we were victorious over them.

Actually alliances between Muslims and Christian states were far more common than we would believe. I can give many examples but the main ones would be Shawar allying himself with Jerusalem against the Zengids, the Nasarids joining the Castillans in the taking of Muslim Sevilla (Ashbiliya). Similarily Christians often allied themselves with Muslims against other Christians. Don Quixote, the legendary Christian Spanish knight helped the Muslims take Valencia from the Christians. Religion was just a tool that was used for diplomatic reasons for most of the time but could be easily forgotten where personal gains lay at stake.

We need a Baibars, not Salahaddin. Salahaddin was more polite comparing to Baibars.

True, all in all Baibars was a far more ruthless and ambitious leader. Salahdin has had the honour of retaking Jerusalem, Hattin being a great feat no doubt but far too often Baibars and Ayn Jalut gets easily forgotten. The Middle East could have been totally different today had the Mongols succeeded in beating the last major Muslim power in the region.
 
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If one take notice, most of the Islamic crusader generals were Non-Arab Muslims such as Salahuddin the Kurd, the Sljuk and Ottaman Turks of Anatolia, the Mamluks of Egypt who were compelled into action after short sighted power hungry Arab-leadership lead by their own greed of empire failed to defend Muslim lands from European invasion. The only exception of this being the Ummayads who made the largest transformation of territory in the history of Islamic world.

The last of this Arab incompetence were seen with the rise of Pan-Arab movement instigated by Hussien Sharef of Jordan against the Ottoman Turks with support of European backing which ended up losing Jerusalem once again into the hands of Western Europe and eventually leading to birth of Israel.

Now Arabs are licking their wounds for last 64 years pledging the ummah cause and calling on the soul of Salahdin.
 
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Spartacus_Σπάρτακο;2814193 said:
Saladin (Salahuddin Al Ayubbi) Sword
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Saladin (Salahuddin Al Ayubbi) sword, the Kurdish Muslim general and warrior from Tikrit. This sword made from Damascus steel very hard but flexible because it has a content of CNTs (carbon nanotubes). He said this is very sharp sword, sharp enough to easily pierce armor Renald de chatilon.
Salahuddin popular among Muslims and Christians because of his leadership, military strength, and nature of the knights and forgiving when he fought against the crusaders. Sultan Salahuddin Al Ayubbi is also a cleric. He provides footnotes and a variety of explanations in the book of hadeeth of Abu Dawud. Now this sword is a private collection Shahhi family in the UAE. It costs about $555,000

Arabs Should unite with the Kurds to regain the Lost Glory.

What the? Why is it a private collection of some guy in the UAE?????
 
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Yeah, but now a segment among us is completely supporting them. I hope they will soon change their ways.

There was a segment which always sent assasins against the Islamic general engaged in Crusade. This is why Salahdin had to pull back his forces and destroy the Safvid of Egypt before being able to achieve any success against Crusaders.
 
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The Ottoman Empire was liquidated in the First World War, but on its ruins a monstrous historic wrong was perpetrated. "On his arrival in Jerusalem General Allenby made a historic remark which indicated that the long-standing animosity between Christendom and Islam was not over and that the crusading mentality was still alive. Speaking in public, he announced that the crusades were now finally completed. And three years later, in 1920, when French troops occupied Damascus, their commander marched up to Saladin's tomb in the Great Mosque and cried: 'Nous revenons Saladin!' (We are back Saladin!). The deep-seated contempt for Islam had long displayed itself amongst the French colonialists as a sense of vindictiveness towards the Muslim populations of the former Ottoman Empire."

Not sure why it is called a "monstrous historic wrong"!

The Muslims started attacking the Christian world almost as soon as they could.

The Christians only repaid a fraction of that. Their war was entirely in self defense.
 
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Not sure why it is called a "monstrous historic wrong"!

The Muslims started attacking the Christian world almost as soon as they could.

The Christians only repaid a fraction of that. Their war was entirely in self defense.

Ahhh, a indian lecturing Muslims about their history, how much more funny could it get than this?:lol:
 
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