Tension in Rajouri over burning of ISIS flag

[livingdead]

Waise bahut dino ke baad kuch sahi kaam kiya hai VHP walo ne

dont try to be my friend sanghi..
I am calling backup .. @jamahir

 

[Spring Onion]

@Spring Onion , have something to say about this?

Nothing to say about that I reported it.

 

[hussain0216]

Come on indian muslims grow some balls

Burn some hindu flags im sure you don't know what the hells written on them and can claim ignorance in your secular republic

 

[ranjeet]

dont try to be my friend sanghi..
I am calling backup .. @jamahir

He is in deep shock after he read Oz "final solution" for cats.

 

[livingdead]

He is in deep shock after he read Oz "final solution" for cats.

whats that?

 

[ranjeet]

whats that?

Australia actually declares ‘war’ on cats, plans to kill 2 million by 2020

 

[Azizam]

They do and they don't. They represent those who share their ideology i.e. terrorist lovers, extreme Salafists and so on. They certainly don't represent those fighting them i.e. the Muslim Sunni Kurds, Shia Iraqis, Sunni Iraqi tribesman and the Arab nations like Jordan leading air strikes on them.

Kurds are more nationalist than Muslim. Shia are viewed as heretics by not only militants in Iraq and Syria but also increasing being propagated by countries like Maldives and Malaysia (next generation of extremism).

 

[waz]

Kurds are more nationalist than Muslim. Shia are viewed as heretics by not only militants in Iraq and Syria but also increasing being propagated by countries like Maldives and Malaysia (next generation of extremism).

Negative about the Kurds, I know and have taught loads. They are religious, as are their families. Nationalism is a rallying call for them. Shia are only viewed as heretics by extreme Salafis, that doesn't detract from the fact they are Muslims. You also missed out the many of Sunni tribesman fighting ISIS.

 

[ayesha.a]

Hindus , You just have burnt Kalima Shahadah which mean to Muslims a lot, It would have been better if you just have burnt ISIS written on flag instead of original, You have just provoked Muslim community. Even Iraq army and other forces that are directly confronting ISIS won't do that, and i'm sure these Hindu extremist were clear about what they are actually doing.


Don't misguide them after all its india that could suffer from possible religious backlash.

If you are angry at hindus or India, I'm guessing you didn't see what Turkish women have done to the ISIS flag. I can't post it here, but google "FEMEN turkey ISIS flag", and you'll see them shitting and menstruating on it.

Despite whatever is written on it, that flag represents ISIS, and ISIS alone. Not islam.

I suppose if a man wearing a shirt with the Kalimahs printed on it started shooting people, you won't shoot back, because the letters on his shirt are sacred to you? Learn to differentiate between a thing, and a representation of the thing. They are not the same, just as your photograph is not you. Deleting your photo from a computer is not the same thing as killing you. They burned a flag, they did not burn the Kalimahs. A flag that represents ISIS, not islam.

 

[livingdead]

If you are angry at hindus or India, I'm guessing you didn't see what Turkish women have done to the ISIS flag. I can't post it here, but google "FEMEN turkey ISIS flag", and you'll see them shitting and menstruating on it.

Despite whatever is written on it, that flag represents ISIS, and ISIS alone. Not islam.

I suppose if a man wearing a shirt with the Kalimahs printed on it started shooting people, you won't shoot back, because the letters on his shirt are sacred to you? Learn to differentiate between a thing, and a representation of the thing. They are not the same, just as your photograph is not you. Deleting your photo from a computer is not the same thing as killing you. They burned a flag, they did not burn the Kalimahs. A flag that represents ISIS, not islam.

they burnt it in lebanon last year i think.

 

[Azizam]

Negative about the Kurds, I know and have taught loads. They are religious, as are their families. Nationalism is a rallying call for them. Shia are only viewed as heretics by extreme Salafis, that doesn't detract from the fact they are Muslims. You also missed out the many of Sunni tribesman fighting ISIS.

You could be right about Kurds. As for tribesmen, they seem to be the only ones who attract sympathy from the wider Muslim community. Shias are increasing being viewed as heretics, not by just individuals, even the entire countries like Malaysia and Maldives seem to take the extremist approach and this pattern of thought is getting popular everyday.

Over 100 people arrested in latest crackdown on Shia Muslims - The Malaysian Insider

Malaysian government to Shia Muslims: Keep your beliefs to yourself | GlobalPost

In Maldives, only a Sunni muslim can be a citizen there.

IMO, the reason for this is, most muslim countries are found on the idea of religion. At first, it's only the non-muslim that used to face discrimination but it's a matter of time until hatred is directed at minorities among the muslims when non-muslims fade out from the equation. When Shias are gone, then Sunnis would divide among each other. The problem is with the ideology or the approach. As long as population of a country is divided on the basis of religion or a certain religion is promoted within the state, then division will continue in one way or another.

 

[livingdead]

Negative about the Kurds, I know and have taught loads. They are religious, as are their families. Nationalism is a rallying call for them. Shia are only viewed as heretics by extreme Salafis, that doesn't detract from the fact they are Muslims. You also missed out the many of Sunni tribesman fighting ISIS.

kurds are quite backward compared to turks or iraqis but one cant blame them they are isolated people. it seems honour killing is still practiced by them.
about being observant muslims, i recently was buying takeaway from a kurdish shop and one guy was eating behind the counter, that was during ramadan. I was surprised.

 

[CIS-TRANS]

does the same logic hold good for these people too ??

@Imran Khan have given you answer and hence my very first complement proved right. Burn as much ISIS flags as you want but just remove religious terminologies and that would convey your message in better way. but I don't think most Indian members were really interested in understanding my real points but I have cleared my post and I don't think their is further discussion needed.

 

[doppelganger]

Tension in Rajouri over burning of ISIS flag by VHP, Bajrang Dal - Kashmir Times

@magudi @JanjaWeed @Star Wars @doppelganger @SrNair

It really is symbolic of the larger global Muslim silence about the violence and hatred emanating from within their ranks is it not.

Quick to take up cudgels against perceived slights of their faith by outsiders.

But complete silence and inertia and attempts at tu quoque rationalization (the infamous "BUT PARADIGM" I have spoken about often in the past) when it comes to a lot worse when it comes from within.

Lets be clear here. This is INDIA.

When Sikhs used their holiest place for terrorism, we went it.

How is this different? its only a piece of cloth. Tomorrow if the Jama Masjid is used, we will go in. Have zero doubt on that.

Did the Pakistanis not go into one of their own major mosques when terrorists were holed up in there?

So what's the whole fuss about? Where was the outrage when you saw your holiest quotations and prophetic seals being waved across the world on black flags as animals went around burning your own fellow Muslims inside iron cages? Where were the demonstrations and stone pelting and chest thumping? Why are you still waiting for the West to come and bomb the ISIS? Not enough Muslim armies and soldiers and arms in the area?

If you do not want what's holy to you to be stepped on by outsiders, then do not allow your own to step on it, abuse it, and use it as refuge in the first place.

Simple is it not?

 

[jamahir]

dont try to be my friend sanghi..
I am calling backup .. @jamahir

it is really shameful that it was vhp and bd who did this and not the self-proclaimed care-takers of islam in india like the "all-india muslim personal law board" or the dar-ul-uloom deoband or in kashmir itself, that burqa brigade called "dukhtaraan-e-millat".

but why would they... after all, most "muslim" terrorist groups from east to west derive their ideology from the deobandi cult from deoband town, uttar pradesh, india.

i didn't see any large protests by indian muslims against the nato invasion of iraq, libya and syria, yet became renowned "rage boy" from kashmir protesting againt mediocre isssues.

He is in deep shock after he read Oz "final solution" for cats.

it is simply genocide.