Ten amazing women who are making Pakistan proud

[Irfan Baloch]

Being a Brit Politician she represents Britain not Pakistan.

that is correct but she is also proud and doesn't hide her roots. she was recognised and actually given a cabinet position for that unfortunately she had to leave due to her differences on British involvement in the wars inside the Middle east.

Yes,whats Pakistani about her?

if you listen to her interviews on the same subject then you will understand
she is proud of her roots and believes in bridging the gaps and representing other Pakistani ex pats inside Britain. she could choose not to care about Pakistani relations or the issues of other British Pakistanis.

I agree her listing is in the grey area but its not a crime to list her.

here is her interview in "Urdu".... with a Pakistani channel.
too bad she had to leave cabinet due to Gaza issue. but she is no less Pakistani than our political leaders living abroad.

 

[T-123456]

if you listen to her interviews on the same subject then you will understand
she is proud of her roots and believes in bridging the gaps and representing other Pakistani ex pats inside Britain. she could choose not to care about Pakistani relations or the issues of other British Pakistanis.

I agree her listing is in the grey area but its not a crime to list her.

here is her interview in "Urdu".... with a Pakistani channel.
too bad she had to leave cabinet due to Gaza issue. but she is no less Pakistani than our political leaders living abroad.

Are you proud of her?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Are you proud of her?

short answer yes.

she is one of the very few people listed in this thread that I know and have followed. so yes, I dont know many of them anyway so I would have to read more and understand mroe before my interest changes into admiration and pride.

maybe proud is too much loaded a word. most of the women listen here (including Warsi) are those who I admire and respect and specially Warsi who speaks her mind and left the cabinet roughly around the time when Israelis attacked the Turkish relief for the Gaza people.

 

[T-123456]

short answer yes.

she is one of the very few people listed in this thread that I know and have followed. so yes, I dont know many of them anyway so I would have to read more and understand mroe before my interest changes into admiration and pride.

maybe proud is too much loaded a word. most of the women listen here (including Warsi) are those who I admire and respect and specially Warsi who speaks her mind and left the cabinet roughly around the time when Israelis attacked the Turkish relief for the Gaza people.

I didnt know all of that,thought she was just another ''Britishized''(dont know the word for it) imigrant who ''lost'' her culture and roots.
As you know,there are many of those in the UK and the rest of western Europe.
Its @Spring Onion 's fault ,she made me think that way because of her comment.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I didnt know all of that,thought she was just another ''Britishized''(dont know the word for it) imigrant who ''lost'' her culture and roots.
As you know,there are many of those in the UK and the rest of western Europe.
Its @Spring Onion 's fault ,she made me think that way because of her comment.

Pakistani diaspora is the least one to lose their culture... Unlike other nations..

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I didnt know all of that,thought she was just another ''Britishized''(dont know the word for it) imigrant who ''lost'' her culture and roots.
As you know,there are many of those in the UK and the rest of western Europe.
Its @Spring Onion 's fault ,she made me think that way because of her comment.

never pre-judge people based on their ethnicity, race, sect, gender or whatever.. do allow yourself to make a rational and informed opinion through your own direct / first person interaction with that person's writings, videos and views and then decide for yourself.

I am confident to say that she cares more about Pakistani people than some of our leaders who rule us from abroad whether or not they are in the government they spend most of their time in their castles in France and Dubai.

(in this video she is highlighting issues British Pakistanis have and how Pakistan should better present itself to British diplomatically)


you remind me of this video

Rush asks Brian if he has read anything himself what he has written
to which Brian says. he hasn't but he has read what other people say about you have written in your books and he doesnt like what people have said that you have written in your books.

still with me?

 

[T-123456]

Pakistani diaspora is the least one to lose their culture... Unlike other nations..

You are telling the wrong person,i know many in real lfe and only a few care for Pakistan.
The same goes for the Indians and Bangladeshi people.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

You are telling the wrong person,i know many in real lfe and only a few care for Pakistan.
The same goes for the Indians and Bangladeshi people.

I don't know about 3rd or 4th generation .. But the first 2 generations don't change much... Countless examples.. From this baronnes to Imran Khan (boxer) and so on.

Yes all fingers aren't equal .. There ATR many who do become europeanised .. But chances of that happening are least when compared to any other ME or Asian origin people.

Your examples about indians is completely unusual for the lack of words... Indians even in India literally ape western culture..

 

[T-123456]

never pre-judge people based on their ethnicity, race, sect, gender or whatever.. do allow yourself to make a rational and informed opinion through your own direct / first person interaction with that person's writings, videos and views and then decide for yourself.

I had that i mind when i posted my question?
You know me well enough to know that i make my own judgements,views,opinions,not by listening to others but by research,observation,evidence etc.
There is no Baroness in or from Pakistan so i assumed she was British and asked what she was doing on that list.
The last sentence in my post was a joke btw.

Rush asks Brian if he has read anything himself what he has written
to which Brian says.( he hasn't but he has)i havent but i read what other people say about you have written in your books and he doesnt(i dont) like what people have said that you have written in your books.

Got it.

 

[Spring Onion]

that is correct but she is also proud and doesn't hide her roots. she was recognised and actually given a cabinet position for that unfortunately she had to leave due to her differences on British involvement in the wars inside the Middle east.


if you listen to her interviews on the same subject then you will understand
she is proud of her roots and believes in bridging the gaps and representing other Pakistani ex pats inside Britain. she could choose not to care about Pakistani relations or the issues of other British Pakistanis.

I agree her listing is in the grey area but its not a crime to list her.

here is her interview in "Urdu".... with a Pakistani channel.
too bad she had to leave cabinet due to Gaza issue. but she is no less Pakistani than our political leaders living abroad.

I didnt know all of that,thought she was just another ''Britishized''(dont know the word for it) imigrant who ''lost'' her culture and roots.
As you know,there are many of those in the UK and the rest of western Europe.
Its @Spring Onion 's fault ,she made me think that way because of her comment.

I stand by my comment because it is not about her origin or her roots. I have no issue even if she lost her roots/culture etc etc even Nationality as long as her role or actions helped Pakistani women progress.

My point is that her vocal criticism of UK policy viz a viz Israel towards Palestine has nothing to do with Pakistan and improvement of conditions for Pakistani women and society at large.

There are many women in Pakistan who are making a difference towards improvement of overall atmosphere for Pakistani women so these women if were on list that would have been better.

She represents UK not Pakistan. Rest there is no doubt about her abilities but I say she makes an odd entry into the list.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I stand by my comment because it is not about her origin or her roots. I have no issue even if she lost her roots/culture etc etc even Nationality as long as her role or actions helped Pakistani women progress.

My point is that her vocal criticism of UK policy viz a viz Israel towards Palestine has nothing to do with Pakistan and improvement of conditions for Pakistani women and society at large.

There are many women in Pakistan who are making a difference towards improvement of overall atmosphere for Pakistani women so these women if were on list that would have been better.

She represents UK not Pakistan. Rest there is no doubt about her abilities but I say she makes an odd entry into the list.

her roots justify the entry

we are normally identified and blamed for the acts of people in other countries due to their ties even if its few generations apart. why not for once, allow ourselves to claim some good fame for us too?
a woman from an ordinary family in Pakistan can rise up to become a Barroness in UK,.. now that my dear.. is an achievement. something our "democracy" would have have allowed her to achieve.

thats my point.

 

[Spring Onion]

her roots justify the entry

we are normally identified and blamed for the acts of people in other countries due to their ties even if its few generations apart. why not for once, allow ourselves to claim some good fame for us too?
a woman from an ordinary family in Pakistan can rise up to become a Barroness in UK,.. now that my dear.. is an achievement. something our "democracy" would have have allowed her to achieve.

thats my point.

My point is that UK is a progressive society allowing even women from ordinary alien families to rise up to become Barronesss. My point is I want to see native Pakistani women who are facing the extremists, terrorists, other buffoons while fighting for rights of Pakistani women.

 

[T-123456]

I stand by my comment because it is not about her origin or her roots. I have no issue even if she lost her roots/culture etc etc even Nationality as long as her role or actions helped Pakistani women progress.

My point is that her vocal criticism of UK policy viz a viz Israel towards Palestine has nothing to do with Pakistan and improvement of conditions for Pakistani women and society at large.

There are many women in Pakistan who are making a difference towards improvement of overall atmosphere for Pakistani women so these women if were on list that would have been better.

She represents UK not Pakistan. Rest there is no doubt about her abilities but I say she makes an odd entry into the list.

Good points thank you.
@Irfan Baloch ?

 

[CENTCOM]

Quaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah has said, “No nation can rise to the height of glory unless your women are side by side with you.” Yesterday in an op-ed published in a local paper Ambassador David Hale had written, “Pakistan’s greatest resource is surely its people. Since I arrived nearly four months ago, I have had the opportunity to speak with people from various backgrounds, and from different regions of the country, economic sectors, and with varied political and social perspectives. I am constantly impressed by the level of talent and ambition I see here, especially among women.” He further wrote, “The US is committed to the greater inclusion and enablement of women at home and abroad. I am proud of the work we have done and continue to do with the Government of Pakistan and with civil society organizations, to advance the role of women. My personal ‘Pledge for Parity’ is a commitment to helping women and girls achieve their ambitions and engaging with male leaders to help support these efforts. Let’s work together to ensure we are achieving our full potential by allowing women to achieve theirs.”

At a recent event celebrating achievements of Pakistani women, Ambassador Hale recognized five “Women of Strength” for their contributions to gender equality in Pakistan. Each of these women participated in USAID’s Gender Equity Program, which is the largest USAID program in Pakistan specifically supporting women’s empowerment. This $40-million, five-year program, implemented by the Aurat Foundation, aims to improve women’s access to justice; expand economic opportunities for women; advocate for women's social and political empowerment; support survivors of gender-based violence; and build the capacity of government and civil society to prevent, respond to, and eliminate gender-based violence. “Investing in women and girls not only promotes gender equality, it has a ripple effect on every aspect of society,” Ambassador Hale said. “And no country can get ahead if it leaves half of its population behind.”


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[Salik]

Salma Habib

Working with children who belong to the more destitute, slum areas of Karachi, Salma Habibhas been a positive force in helping children and harnessing their artistic skills. She works with them by providing the resources, stationary and place for these children to draw and showcase their talent.

Photo: Facebook

By helping these children express through art, Habib is able to create a sense of individuality and self-esteem in them, which is often lacking in street children. Every week, she focuses on a band of children and assists them in addressing their qualities, which is inspirational to say the least. More people like Habib need to be present in our society, so that these children may be able to find some colour in their perpetually grey lives.

Madrassa kids need this work very seriously because they are far away from artistic subjects. As per their teachings drawing pictures is haram and prohibited so they don't even have access to simple crayons. When they grow up they see things in black and white.