Whether people like it for not, it's in production. Rarely you hear of people talking of Dhruv like they used to. And HAL is about to give Reliance, or TATAs, or Adanis, etc. the rights to produce the civ-Dhruvs for Indian market. So, it's even more success, let alone the faster development of offshots like LUH, LCH, etc.
70% is most like the import by value, western, etc. engine, radar, etc. will do that. And a lot of the imports are great opportunities for the industry to fill in and create alternatives.
India certified the platform itself from LEH to Tamil Nadu.
It can do what ever the **** it wants with the platform now ---
Whether it be if wants to put it's most advanced avionics on a LIFT variant.
Whether it be reworking it for naval applications, for future naval applications.
Whether it be having it made under module construction with big private companies like the Adanis, TATAs, L&Ts, or small ones like Tech Dynamics, Astra, etc. eat off this program.
Whether it be moving right on from the platform and creating offshots off it's basic design.
What is your JF? You import basic airframes. You have China do basic certifications dual seat variant, air to air refuel, etc. Your own senior partners used Russian help on the bird, so what do you mean talk of Tejas?
Mark my works.. This program no matter the initial start will be remembered as a success, simply for what it ends up raising.
Sigh! Here we go again...
Ok let's start with a few points. You have argued your point and obviously believe it so I will endeavour to be polite and explain why you are wrong.
You start with mentioning the Dhruv and talk as if it is a resounding success. I beg to differ. The helicopter has only one thing going for it and that is it's price point. The last time I heard anything significant about it was when the Ecuadorians said they'd like their money back. And there have been quite a few cra
Whether people like it for not, it's in production. Rarely you hear of people talking of Dhruv like they used to. And HAL is about to give Reliance, or TATAs, or Adanis, etc. the rights to produce the civ-Dhruvs for Indian market. So, it's even more success, let alone the faster development of offshots like LUH, LCH, etc.
70% is most like the import by value, western, etc. engine, radar, etc. will do that. And a lot of the imports are great opportunities for the industry to fill in and create alternatives.
India certified the platform itself from LEH to Tamil Nadu.
It can do what ever the **** it wants with the platform now ---
Whether it be if wants to put it's most advanced avionics on a LIFT variant.
Whether it be reworking it for naval applications, for future naval applications.
Whether it be having it made under module construction with big private companies like the TATAs, L&Ts, or small ones like Tech Dynamics, Astra, etc. eat off this program.
Whether it be moving right on from the platform and creating offshoots off it's basic design.
What is your JF? You import basic airframes. You have China do basic certifications dual seat variant, air to air refuel, etc. Your own senior partner used Russian help on the bird, so what do you mean talk of Tejas?
Mark my works.. This program no matter the initial start will be remembered as a success, simply for what it ends up raising.
Never start with something like the Dhruv for your argument. The Dhruv has a bad reputation and in the world of defence procurement reputation goes a long way.
Ecuador To Sell Three Remaining HAL Dhruv Helicopters
Ecuador will sell the three remaining three Dhruv utility helicopters it bought from India’s Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL) it purchased between 2009 and 2012.
Ecuador's Defence Minister Ricardo Patino announced the decision on October 20, IHS Jane's Defence Weekly reported.
Ecuador had bought seven Dhruv from HAL after a hard competition from Elbit, Eurocopter and Kazan for $50.7mn. Ecuador lost four helicopters in crashes and the Ecuadorian government took a decision to ground the rest of the choppers in October last year. It also ended the contract with HAL unilaterally.
Two of the helicopters that crashed are attributed to mechanical problems and getting components for the choppers from India has proved to be problematic.
The other two crashes are linked to pilot errors. One of these helicopters was assigned to transport the Ecuadorian President. He was not on board when the helicopter crashed.
HAL had provided ground support for the choppers in Ecuador. The officials had said that the two choppers that crashed allegedly because of the mechanical defects went down only after the ground support period with Ecuador had ended.
Since 2002, 14 military and 2 civil Indian Dhruv helicopters have been involved in accidents, out of which 11 occurred in India and 5 abroad.
Out of 16 accidents, 12 occurred due to human error & environmental factors and the remaining 4 occurred due to technical reasons, Minister of State for Defence Rao Inderjit Singh said in the parliament in March this year.
As per notice issued by Ecuador Government, ‘non-compliance of the seller of some of the obligations contracted by virtue of the present contract’ and ‘value of the fines exceeding the amount of guarantee of faithful compliance of the contract’ have been cited as the reasons.
Ecuadorian Defence Minister had been previously quoted by AP as saying that getting the spare parts from India was difficult. However, HAL had insisted that it provided all the spare parts on time and was not provided with any investigative reports that said mechanical failure was the reason behind crashes.
As for the rest you, are using the old staple of "It has created a infrastructure" and that this is the start of big bright future. As noted above reputation goes a long way.
The project has in essence failed. Why? the Plane was supposed to have start production in 1998 to replace mig 21's has it completed this task?----no, you haven't even completed the first 40 ordered aircraft and had to complete a MK1A to cover the faults that aren't fixed.(Lets not even go down the MK2 business lol)
Is it indigenous?---No despite many dopey Indian posters blaring on about "JF17 is only Chinese with green paint" the Tejas is 70% foreign
Have you ordered the MK1A's yet?---No automatically adding another 3-4 years before you get new planes for an airforce short of aircraft.
Has it started replacing the squadron shortfall? ----no
Is the original design chock full of successful Indian projects like the Kaveri engine, Indian Avionics---No
Are the worlds Air forces all a buzz about the new exciting plane coming from India----No, No airforce wants an unfinished product let alone a product that isn't being ordered by your own airforce close to 40 years after the project started.