Technocratic Caretaker Government - propose a list of names

[Viper0011.]

The issue with our collective mentality is that we're always looking for shortcuts and quick fixes. No one wants to plant the seeds for the future.

I agree 100%. But someone has to do it right? No matter how corrupt someone was in the past, if now they are showing progress and in a short amount of time that's accepted by the world, that's a huge change and they should finish up their term. No long march, toppling the system makes sense when you are a year into a government. That's very undemocratic. Also, the SAME people wanted to bring down the government......are STILL a PART of the government. Isn't that amazing or retarded??

Just tells you how power hungry people can be. They want others to forcefully leave power. But they don't want to leave the SAME power that they consider bad for others. Protesting while keeping memberships of assemblies and parliament is utterly crazy

 

[Waffen SS]

These will be 'caretakers' which will elect themselves

Prime Minister - Imran Khan
Deputy Prime Minister - Tahir ul Qadri
Second Deputy Prime Minister - Sheikh Rashid
Third Deputy Prime Minister - Pervez Elhai
Fourth Deputy Prime Minister- Chaudhary Shujat

That too in the cyberspace.

 

[Counter-Errorist]

I agree 100%. But someone has to do it right? No matter how corrupt someone was in the past, if now they are showing progress and in a short amount of time that's accepted by the world, that's a huge change and they should finish up their term. No long march, toppling the system makes sense when you are a year into a government. That's very undemocratic. Also, the SAME people wanted to bring down the government......are STILL a PART of the government. Isn't that amazing or retarded??

Just tells you how power hungry people can be. They want others to forcefully leave power. But they don't want to leave the SAME power that they consider bad for others. Protesting while keeping memberships of assemblies and parliament is utterly crazy

Amazingly retarded!

What pisses me off most was the 5 years of Zardari were one the worst in our history. PPP leached off whatever scraps and pieces of cash and dignity were left with us. Yet, no one cares to bring him to the stand. No one came in to rescue us then. NS is notoriously corrupt as well but he has shown to be progressive enough.

Slowly but steadily, things have been improving since he came to power. And IK, as part of the opposition, should've focused his attention on keeping PMLN on their toes, rather he's turning the full field inside out. What is this if not a straight up power grab?! He knows full well that if NS can maintain a healthy economy, there's no way he's getting any votes in the next election. So all this dharnabazi is simply to bleed the nation enough to keep him relevant. At such a fragile time in our history, this man is willing to gamble us all for himself.

Nearly half our population right now comprises of the youth, and unread in our history. These guys are easy to influence and mobilize. If only they knew the pawns they're being played for.

 

[RAMPAGE]

@Chak Bamu

Lets see your list !!!

 

[Waffen SS]

Amazingly retarded!

What pisses me off most was the 5 years of Zardari were one the worst in our history. PPP leached off whatever scraps and pieces of cash and dignity were left with us. Yet, no one cares to bring him to the stand. No one came in to rescue us then. NS is notoriously corrupt as well but he has shown to be progressive enough.

Slowly but steadily, things have been improving since he came to power. And IK, as part of the opposition, should've focused his attention on keeping PMLN on their toes, rather he's turning the full field inside out. What is this if not a straight up power grab?! He knows full well that if NS can maintain a healthy economy, there's no way he's getting any votes in the next election. So all this dharnabazi is simply to bleed the nation enough to keep him relevant. At such a fragile time in our history, this man is willing to gamble us all for himself.

Nearly half our population right now comprises of the youth, and unread in our history. These guys are easy to influence and mobilize. If only they knew the pawns they're being played for.

Our nation is always looking for some super-hero who can fix things overnight.

In addition, we are used to one-line solutions (recipes) to complex problems of governance.
e.g. killing all politicians, Islami nizaam, fauj, long marches, dharnas etc.

It would be an insult to the development in western nations that we solve our problems using these super-heros and simple recipes cited above.

 

[Viper0011.]

Amazingly retarded!

What pisses me off most was the 5 years of Zardari were one the worst in our history. PPP leached off whatever scraps and pieces of cash and dignity were left with us. Yet, no one cares to bring him to the stand. No one came in to rescue us then. NS is notoriously corrupt as well but he has shown to be progressive enough.

Slowly but steadily, things have been improving since he came to power. And IK, as part of the opposition, should've focused his attention on keeping PMLN on their toes, rather he's turning the full field inside out. What is this if not a straight up power grab?! He knows full well that if NS can maintain a healthy economy, there's no way he's getting any votes in the next election. So all this dharnabazi is simply to bleed the nation enough to keep him relevant. At such a fragile time in our history, this man is willing to gamble us all for himself.

Nearly half our population right now comprises of the youth, and unread in our history. These guys are easy to influence and mobilize. If only they knew the pawns they're being played for.

You brought up pretty much ALL the valid points which I've been writing about just so people can see them if they've forgotten to use common sense.
1) Smart and sensible "opposition" isn't the one who wants to bring down a working government by force, violence and other means. It is what keeps the government on its toes and identifies all weaknesses, problems, and keeps them in check. That way, the current government knows if they didn't do the right thing and make progress, they've been exposed and they won't win again. So its a check and balance. No where in the entire system there is violence, long destructive marches, etc

2) You are right again, the problem (for IK) is, Pakistan's infrastructure, growth, people's level of living standards, electricity and all, are about to double up within the next 3-4 years. What is he going to take to the people in 5 years from KPK vs. NS's LONG list of projects supported by the international community and stamped by the Chinese large scale investments that will be visible on almost every major highway??? Simply put, IK won't come close to winning. But does that mean he can lie to 200 MILLION people point blank and play with people's right to have a better future, better jobs, better economy? These marches and removing the government through force are the worse thing for a country like Pakistan and its economy that's started to improve. You can't remove Oxygen from someone's face when they are still under serious Cardiac surgery. These protests are removing Oxygen from the economy and a change in the government by force will be death of foreign investments and the economy.

If things continue the way they have been with the current government, in the next 3-5 years, your country will produce more electricity than it has EVER produced for the past 70 years, same goes for the highways, trade, revenue and investments. I don't think there is ONE government in the entire history of Pakistan who brought 100 billion dollars worth of investments in its 1st year, or had 8 large scale energy projects being built, etc, etc (and YES, in some of them, there may be mistakes and delays like every project, but as long as there is no corruption, the human factor of mistakes and delays is allowed). People should feel ashamed of trying to damage their country and their next generations future by supporting forceful destruction of the democratic system

 

[Verve]

Democracy is all well and good but this argument of "no matter how bad & corrupt the elected civilians governments are, that system should be allowed to carry on". This argument is just plain foolish. Continuation of such types of democracies result in destruction and civil wars! True and genuine democracies are nothing like what we have in Pakistan.

PK version of democracy is infested with corruption, no justice for common man, no law and order, and dynastic parties, it simply should not be allowed to carry on. This system will never self-clean! Constitution is man made, and if a system continues to produce rotten eggs, then either the constitution should be revised or strictly applied in it's entirety. I personally think that our constitution is good enough overall, it is the complete application (or even 20%) of it that no elected government has ever done!

Honest and high integrity technocrats are a must now to clean up the system thoroughly to provide an environment for genuine democracy to operate in and build on. And technocratic government should not mean indirect/direct military control. Army does not need to get involved as long as any government, be it elected or technocratic, is working solely for the people and country and not for their personal interests.

1: PM - Dr Atta Ur Rehman
2: Security/Interior minister - Gen (R) Haroon Aslam

3: Rana Bhagwandas as the head of ECP
4: Dr Samar Mubarikmand for Resources ministry

5: Appoint the dean of Economics from QAU as minister of economics.

Now that is one list in the whole thread that makes sense!

Musharaf had the opportunity to put such high caliber people in from the onset of his tenure, but he brought in those who had other agendas.

 

[Finer]

Amazingly retarded!

What pisses me off most was the 5 years of Zardari were one the worst in our history. PPP leached off whatever scraps and pieces of cash and dignity were left with us. Yet, no one cares to bring him to the stand. No one came in to rescue us then. NS is notoriously corrupt as well but he has shown to be progressive enough.

Slowly but steadily, things have been improving since he came to power. And IK, as part of the opposition, should've focused his attention on keeping PMLN on their toes, rather he's turning the full field inside out. What is this if not a straight up power grab?! He knows full well that if NS can maintain a healthy economy, there's no way he's getting any votes in the next election. So all this dharnabazi is simply to bleed the nation enough to keep him relevant. At such a fragile time in our history, this man is willing to gamble us all for himself.

Nearly half our population right now comprises of the youth, and unread in our history. These guys are easy to influence and mobilize. If only they knew the pawns they're being played for.

This reminds me of the past that is not relevant, but the pattern is there somewhat, Allahu Alim.

Ottoman Empire was weakening dealing with several crises, but keeping its empire in tact reasonably though. Arab unions ralied people against Ottoman Empire, and support for Arab unions was getting stronger and stronger, Eventually, Ottoman Empire ended up collapsing and losing big portion including Palestine and kept some which is now Turkey.

What people didn't understand that Arab unions marching against Ottoman Empire did help British army who was eager for this opportunity to utilize properly. As i see the situation unfolding, enemy of Pakistan is waiting for the similar opportunity through other means like long march rallying against PMLN putting Pakistan's economy in danger, not to mention this could lead into civil wars. Amongst of these, the biggest fear is still invasion from the enemy of Pakistan.

All the current political leaders will run back to Pakistan leaving Pakistan in tatter, but that being said, Nawaz Sharif is trying to keep the economy in tact along with several billion-dollars energy projects that can kickstart economy to new Pakistan in few years later, Insha Allah.

I think Army takeover or Army-installed caretaker government should be in effect considering the political affairs has been inept lately, but that blame doesn't go to Nawaz despite of his blunders which should have been avoided.

Let's pray it doesn't come to invasion part. As i see the fragile situation can easily erupt into ugly scenario might invite interference from the enemy of Pakistan officially. Keeping an eye on invasion should be first priority just to be safe judging by history as revolt from smaller Arab union proved costly to Islamic Empire, biggest Emire during that time. The pattern is there, but different concept with different leader.

The biggest proof is Middle East where the intended revolution was for change, but that backfired hugely and destroyed any chance of stability as well as continuity of the system's process. Pakistani public, mainly young generation, is making the same mistake that should be avoided at any cost, Allahu Alim.

 

[Asian.Century]

ZAID HAMID WAS ALWAYS "RIGHT" ON THIS ONE: