Team USA

[Zibago]

Let it all hang out!

Nah it really doesnot protect you from the brutality of the sun :-//

It's currently -22F

Use metric outside of US as no one outside US uses the imperial system

It's currently -22F with windchill. I look at it this way, things like this don't happen with hot weather!

Yes hot weather is not so kind when it makes you its victim all you get is a brain that shuts off due to overheating and you die from heat stroke
There are ways to walk for hours during a blizzard but can you do the same when temperature goes in the early 50,s during a heat wave without shade ?

 

[Gomig-21]

Nah it really doesnot protect you from the brutality of the sun :-//

That was a joke. You can easily wear less, put a hat on, carry an umbrella go the beach jump in a pool put a tarp up and work under it. So much more you can do in brutal heat than in sub-freezing temps. Take it from a guy who builds houses for a living in the north east of the US! 28 years of doing this we've figured it out believe me.

Use metric outside of US as no one outside US uses the imperial system

Team USA thread? Come on man, if they're really interested they can use this:

https://www.google.com/search?q=fah...2.69i57j0l5.5019j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Yes hot weather is not so kind when it makes you its victim all you get is a brain that shuts off due to overheating and you die from heat stroke

Sub-zero temperatures can not only eat away at your extremities, it can literally kill you in seconds and you can't work in it. It's impossible and the more you bundle up, the more useless you are and you're still not protected from the elements.

There are ways to walk for hours during a blizzard but can you do the same when temperature goes in the early 50,s during a heat wave without shade ?

Walk for hours in a blizzard? LOL!

 

[Nilgiri]

@Nilgiri @The SC damn you Canadians, keep your temperature up there and leave us alone!

I was well prepared this time hehe. It was around -40F at its worst. The darn wind is what really did it.

You know its extra bad when even lake michigan starts to freeze over.

 

[Gomig-21]

I was well prepared this time hehe. It was around -40F at its worst. The darn wind is what really did it.

You know its extra bad when even lake michigan starts to freeze over.

And there's no relief in sight for the next week or two. Usually these Canadi.. ooops, sorry, Arctic blasts linger for about 10 days and then we get back up to the 30's (F) but this doesn't seem to be the case right now. The windchill doubles the pain.

All the news this morning were showing off what the Niagara Falls look like ATM. Good time to visit.

And here in Cape Cod, even sharks are freezing in 6 degree waters. They're frozen, dead bodies are being washed up at low tide in salt marshes.

You know it's pretty damn cold when this kind of thing starts happening.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...t-sharks-are-actually-freezing-to-death-vgtrn

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

And there's no relief in sight for the next week or two. Usually these Canadi.. ooops, sorry, Arctic blasts linger for about 10 days and then we get back up to the 30's (F) but this doesn't seem to be the case right now. The windchill doubles the pain.

C'mon man you've been here all this time and don't have thermal clothes!
I remember the days of getting in my car in the morning as a teen with teeth chattering thinking I was going to die as the stupid heater in the car SLOWLY came to life.

Now with all the fancy thin insulation clothes they have you can walk outside in sub zero weather and feel nothing (well as long as the wind isn't blowing snow in your face). I find it amazing how such thin stuff works so well.

Something like this:

 

[Gomig-21]

C'mon man you've been here all this time and don't have thermal clothes!

Did you really just say that, bro? You of all people know what I do and have been doing for what, 25+ years?

Although a lot of my work is at the office, much of it is also on-sight with my guys and believe me, I've earned my way through the many years of hard, physical work in these elements. Last Friday, I gave the guys the choice to come in or stay home because we're at the end of our current project and the remaining items are all outdoors, including a small rubber roof. So I had to fill the shoes of those who took the day and was up 25ft on a 5"-pitch for 7-1/2 hours and it was 5 degrees. So yeah, I can complain to the Canadians about a rather unusual cold front they're sending our way lol that is currently beating the daylights out of us around here and a lot of the country for that matter.

Heck Miami is currently 58 degrees! Average temp for South Beach this time of year is 78. This will be the coldest New Year's eve in Boston in 55 years. This ain't the usual, cold, winter spell.

Now with all the fancy thin insulation clothes they have you can walk outside in sub zero weather and feel nothing (well as long as the wind isn't blowing snow in your face). I find it amazing how such thin stuff works so well.

Something like this:

Well, no offense to these fellas, but what we do ain't a 10 minute jog lolzo. I'd like to see any of these guys put that stuff on and come out for a full day's worth of work outdoors and see if it works.

There's only one way to dress for being outdoors for a long period in these dangerously cold temperatures, and it ain't no skimpy fancy skin-wear I can guarantee it. You need a lot more of the proper fabric on top of that.

You have to bundle up like it's no-one's business because you can easily die. The difficulty is having the proper under and outerwear to keep your body temp sealed within and especially your head, since you lose your body temp mostly from your head. And you have to be very careful with your extremities, especially toes because they'll get frost-bit without you even knowing it. It's a dangerously delicate balance.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Did you really just say that, bro? You of all people know what I do and have been doing for what, 25+ years?

Although a lot of my work is at the office, much of it is also on-sight with my guys and believe me, I've earned my way through the many years of hard, physical work in these elements. Last Friday, I gave the guys the choice to come in or stay home because we're at the end of our current project and the remaining items are all outdoors, including a small rubber roof. So I had to fill the shoes of those who took the day and was up 25ft on a 5"-pitch for 7-1/2 hours and it was 5 degrees. So yeah, I can complain to the Canadians about a rather unusual cold front they're sending our way lol that is currently beating the daylights out of us around here and a lot of the country for that matter.

Heck Miami is currently 58 degrees! Average temp for South Beach this time of year is 78. This will be the coldest New Year's eve in Boston in 55 years. This ain't the usual, cold, winter spell.



Well, no offense to these fellas, but what we do ain't a 10 minute jog lolzo. I'd like to see any of these guys put that stuff on and come out for a full day's worth of work outdoors and see if it works.

There's only one way to dress for being outdoors for a long period in these dangerously cold temperatures, and it ain't no skimpy fancy skin-wear I can guarantee it. You need a lot more of the proper fabric on top of that.

You have to bundle up like it's no-one's business because you can easily die. The difficulty is having the proper under and outerwear to keep your body temp sealed within and especially your head, since you lose your body temp mostly from your head. And you have to be very careful with your extremities, especially toes because they'll get frost-bit without you even knowing it. It's a dangerously delicate balance.

haha!
The guys building a new house a few doors down from me aren't as tough as you and your guys. I haven't seen them for a few weeks.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

+15°C / 59°F
This is as warm as it gets in Finland, so we'll start here.
People in Spain wear winter-coats and gloves.
The Finns are out in the sun,getting a tan.

+10°C / 50°F
The French are trying in vain to start their central heating.
The Finns plant flowers in their gardens.

+5°C / 41°F
Italian cars won't start.
The Finns are cruising in cabriolets.

0°C / 32°F
Distilled water freezes.
The water in Vantaa river (in Finland) gets a little thicker.

-5°C / 23°F
People in California almost freeze to death.
The Finns have their final barbecue before winter.

-10°C / 14°F
The Brits start the heat in their houses.
The Finns start using long sleeves.

-20°C / -4°F
The Aussies flee from Mallorca.
The Finns end their Midsummer celebrations. Autumn is here.

-30°C / -22°F
People in Greece die from the cold and disappear from the face of the earth.
The Finns start drying their laundry indoors.

-40°C / -40°F
Canada start cracking in the cold.
The Finns stand in line at the hotdog stands.

-50°C / -58°F
Polar bears start evacuating the North Pole.
The Finnish army postpones their winter survival training awaiting real
winter weather.

-60°C / -76°F
Korvatunturi (the home for Santa Claus) freezes.
The Finns rent a movie and stay indoors.

-70°C / -94°F
The false Santa moves south.
The Finns get frustrated since they can't store their Kossu (Koskenkorva
vodka) outdoors.
The Finnish army goes out on winter survival training.

-183°C / -297.4°F
Microbes in food don't survive.
The Finnish cows complain that the farmers' hands are cold.

-273°C / -459.4°F
ALL atom-based movent halts.
The Finns start saying "Perkele, it's cold outside today."

-300°C / -508°F
Hell freezes over.
Finland wins the Eurovision Song Contest

BTW: Swedes are considered sissys, because the army sleeps outside in tents
when it is -30˚C/-22˚F (That’s what I did).
Finns just dig themselves down in the snow.

 

[Gomig-21]

haha!
The guys building a new house a few doors down from me aren't as tough as you and your guys. I haven't seen them for a few weeks.

Or they're just smarter.

 

[Nilgiri]

Did you really just say that, bro? You of all people know what I do and have been doing for what, 25+ years?

Although a lot of my work is at the office, much of it is also on-sight with my guys and believe me, I've earned my way through the many years of hard, physical work in these elements. Last Friday, I gave the guys the choice to come in or stay home because we're at the end of our current project and the remaining items are all outdoors, including a small rubber roof. So I had to fill the shoes of those who took the day and was up 25ft on a 5"-pitch for 7-1/2 hours and it was 5 degrees. So yeah, I can complain to the Canadians about a rather unusual cold front they're sending our way lol that is currently beating the daylights out of us around here and a lot of the country for that matter.

Heck Miami is currently 58 degrees! Average temp for South Beach this time of year is 78. This will be the coldest New Year's eve in Boston in 55 years. This ain't the usual, cold, winter spell.



Well, no offense to these fellas, but what we do ain't a 10 minute jog lolzo. I'd like to see any of these guys put that stuff on and come out for a full day's worth of work outdoors and see if it works.

There's only one way to dress for being outdoors for a long period in these dangerously cold temperatures, and it ain't no skimpy fancy skin-wear I can guarantee it. You need a lot more of the proper fabric on top of that.

You have to bundle up like it's no-one's business because you can easily die. The difficulty is having the proper under and outerwear to keep your body temp sealed within and especially your head, since you lose your body temp mostly from your head. And you have to be very careful with your extremities, especially toes because they'll get frost-bit without you even knowing it. It's a dangerously delicate balance.

Good winter socks (wear inner and outer if needed) + good toque (covers ears adequately) + good scarf (neck -body gap sealant i call it, and also great to extend up to nose if needed) + good snow gloves (dont cheap out, wear inner and outer if needed)....matter much more than what ppl normally invest in (the jacket and snow trousers etc). Also thermals/long johns are handy.

Your body core will naturally stay quite warm, it needs just the basic windshield and some basic insulation (most flock jackets are quite overkill at that)....it is extremities for sure that often get neglected.

Friend of mine absolutely hated living in this part of Canada (he is from Niagara region, much milder) during winter till he actually figured out how to dress warm and efficient (extremity focus like you said).

 

[Gomig-21]

BTW: Swedes are considered sissys, because the army sleeps outside in tents
when it is -30˚C/-22˚F (That’s what I did).
Finns just dig themselves down in the snow.

It's one thing for a light-skinned European to be accustomed to those kind of temps, but us Arabs?

We don't do so well...

Ta'ala yallah khod!

This is much more comfortable for us.

 

[Nilgiri]

It's one thing for a light-skinned European to be accustomed to those kind of temps, but us Arabs?

We don't do so well...

Ta'ala yallah khod!

This is much more comfortable for us.

Do the mechanics of sand work similar to snow for skiing/boarding? That can't be too fun wearing ski boots in the desert....can just imagine taking it off after yer done...ugh.

BTW im darker skinned than most arabs, but I dunno I guess I'm the one weirdo freak that kinda likes the cold here, I guess all those ultra humid, too hot weather when I lived in Asia did a number on me

Its an issue getting my Vitamin D though I suppose, but they fortify lot of stuff now with it....havent felt any ill effects thus far.....might get worse when im older I suppose....but maybe ill be a snowbird then hehe.

 

[Gomig-21]

Do the mechanics of sand work similar to snow for skiing/boarding? That can't be too fun wearing ski boots in the desert....can just imagine taking it off after yer done...ugh.

A faceplant in snow is MUCH better than one in sand loool.

BTW im darker skinned than most arabs, but I dunno I guess I'm the one weirdo freak that kinda likes the cold here, I guess all those ultra humid, too hot weather when I lived in Asia did a number on me

Its an issue getting my Vitamin D though I suppose, but they fortify lot of stuff now with it....havent felt any ill effects thus far.....might get worse when im older I suppose....but maybe ill be a snowbird then hehe.

LOL, hey, join the club of weirdo freaks! I was gonna say, you must be either used to the humidity of India since I'm guessing most of the population lives in the lower altitudes of the country. And I've been to India and remember that humidity quite well. Mumbai, New Delhi, Agra and even Srinagar, all were quite warm when I was there.

 

[Nilgiri]

LOL, hey, join the club of weirdo freaks! I was gonna say, you must be either used to the humidity of India since I'm guessing most of the population lives in the lower altitudes of the country. And I've been to India and remember that humidity quite well. Mumbai, New Delhi, Agra and even Srinagar, all were quite warm when I was there.

I grew up mostly in Hong Kong and Singapore, but yep overall the whole region has that.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

http://www.casesnow.com/news/how-do-other-countries-deal-with-snow/

How Do Other Countries Deal With Snow?

The United States isn’t the only country that runs into trouble with snow during the wintertime. Much of Europe and Canada run into similar situations, but the United States seems to be a mid-point between countries with huge snowfall totals such as Norway and others with much less such as the United Kingdom. One country that stands apart from the rest in terms of handling snow is Sweden. Because snow and cold weather is so common in northern Europe, Sweden has adapted much of its society to always being ready for snow. Swedish lifestyle is tailored towards the frequent cold weather, where most shoes are equipped with proper soles and clothes are made for conditions well below freezing. Salting roads is a legal requirement and special snow tires are always put on for better traction. Chains and studs are also commonly equipped onto tires to improve traction in the snowier areas where plowing and salting just aren’t enough to keep roads completely cleared. Even for airports warm sand is often spread across runaways to keep snow melted and to give aircraft traction when landing and taking off.

One aspect of life that keeps Sweden ahead during the winter is how they treat cold weather and snow as if it were just another day, since it is so common. School isn’t cancelled because of negative temperatures and people will still be seen outside. The real difference is their preparedness. Going out in extremely cold temperatures isn’t too much of a problem when everyone in Sweden has the proper clothing attire to keep them warm and safe. Of course though, when temperatures drop dangerously low more precautions are taken, and not everyone chooses to venture outdoors. Wind causes massive snow drifts and can easily cause frostbite. The preferred method of transportation in northern areas of Sweden and Norway and even Canada is usually by snowmobile. Snow sometimes gets so difficult to manage that roads become useless and there is no way to pass through. So instead of trying to get through the snow in a car or truck, many citizens choose to go right on top of it all with a snowmobile.

Middle to southern Europe views snow in a way that is similar to many Americans. Snow can be an uncommon occurrence and the level of preparedness is nothing compared to Sweden or Norway. A large area of Europe rarely sees long periods of freezing temperatures and so the expectation of snow isn’t usually fresh in everyone’s mind. But that’s not to say it never snows. Salting and plowing are still the preferred method of clearing snow, but many places don’t always have a fleet ready to take to the streets and clear away frozen debris. It’s all about being prepared, which is why sometimes we see schools may close for only a few inches of snow in European countries but also some middle states in America. Warmer states are often unprepared for snow and even a small amount can be crippling, whereas in Sweden or even New England a few inches is treated as just another day. In the coming months those few inches of snow that may be on the ground won’t be looking so bad just knowing how many feet of snow are already probably covering the ground in Sweden, Norway, or our neighbor Canada.