Teachers underrated and poorly paid in China

[Ayan81]

China's teachers are not receiving appropriate pay and esteem, suggests a poll on teachers' satisfaction level of their jobs, reported qq.com on Sept 10, Teacher's Day in China.

The poll surveyed 400,000 teachers at universities, secondary schools, primary schools and kindergartens across the country from August 11 to September 4.

According to its findings, more than 80 percent of teachers, a profession honored as the "architect of soul" in China, feel stressful or very stressful.

The survey also shows a worrying level of salary for teachers: more than 60 percent of teachers make 1,000 yuan to 3,000 yuan ($163-$489) a month, lower than the national average of more than $600 per month, and no less than 90 percent of respondents voiced complaints about their income.

Poor social status adds to the woe of the teaching profession - almost seven out of 10 respondents thought they did not receive due respect.

As a result of the reasons mentioned above, only five percent of respondents said they would choose to teach if they could choose their career again.

Teachers underrated and poorly paid in China: poll - China - Chinadaily.com.cn

 

[jkroo]

Now it's time to improve teacher's c&b. I totally support it and I think there still need some reforms for a better outputs.

Some senior teachers got well paid and even some primary teachers can earn more than 20k per month to offer service for those students who need to coach privately. It seems weird but that's the society where smart people always do better and earn more.

My tutor earn far more than others for he kept applying research projects and got well-funded. In China, if you choose to be teacher then you should keep improving yourself, in many universities, only those who have doctor degree can become teacher and they are well-paid. I don't know where the data comes from but improve teacher's situations will always be a good thing.

 

[DragonEmpire]

LOL teachers in China still doing better than in third world holes like Philippines.

 

[Zsari]

Now it's time to improve teacher's c&b. I totally support it and I think there still need some reforms for a better outputs.

Some senior teachers got well paid and even some primary teachers can earn more than 20k per month to offer service for those students who need to coach privately. It seems weird but that's the society where smart people always do better and earn more.

My tutor earn far more than others for he kept applying research projects and got well-funded. In China, if you choose to be teacher then you should keep improving yourself, in many universities, only those who have doctor degree can become teacher and they are well-paid. I don't know where the data comes from but improve teacher's situations will always be a good thing.

Teachers in China are doing very well economically today, too well, I'll say. The main source of income predominately comes from private tutoring, and that will be to the detriment of school that children are suppose to receive their education in. Some teachers are said to even stop lecturing in class altogether, leaving everything to tutoring.

 

[Ayan81]

LOL teachers in China still doing better than in third world holes like Philippines.

pretty much the same 400 usd

hoping for this bill to pass
Bill seeks to increase public school teachers’ salary from P18K to P36K | News | GMA News Online

 

[UnChosen]

I could believe that they're not paid that well, but not respected?

Out of all the countries in the world I would say Chinese teachers are in the top three when it comes to respect, along with South Korea and Japan.

If they want to see no respect come here to North America where our teachers get fired for giving a student zero for not doing his homework and get chair thrown at by US ghetto students. Where parents go scream at teachers for their children's failure when it is their own fault for not disciplining them at home, and if the teacher tries to do the parents' job they get fired for misconduct.

But hey, Canadian teachers get to strike pretty much every other year using the good students to "blackmail" for a raise when they can go to vacation every year while everyone else in the private sector is getting more tax, less jobs and more work, so I guess respect doesn't matter?

 

[Aepsilons]

pretty much the same 400 usd

hoping for this bill to pass
Bill seeks to increase public school teachers’ salary from P18K to P36K | News | GMA News Online

That's it?! How can anyone survive on $400 per month?

In Japan, teacher's salary starts at ¥ 300,000 ($3,000 U.S Dollars) and may go up to ¥ 600,000 ($5,700 U.S Dollars) --- Per Month.

 

[Genesis]

That's it?! How can anyone survive on $400 per month?

In Japan, teacher's salary starts at ¥ 300,000 ($3,000 U.S Dollars) and may go up to ¥ 600,000 ($5,700 U.S Dollars) --- Per Month.

how can anyone survive on 3,000 dollars?!

See I lived in developed country before and I know exactly what 3,000 dollars get you.

I don't have to give a lecture on what 400 dollars or 100 dollars does in China especially less developed parts relative to Japan again do I.

Name me a city in Japan where 40,000 USD can buy a 100 sq/m apartment? A very good one.

 

[Aepsilons]

how can anyone survive on 3,000 dollars?!

See I lived in developed country before and I know exactly what 3,000 dollars get you.

I don't have to give a lecture on what 400 dollars or 100 dollars does in China especially less developed parts relative to Japan again do I.

Name me a city in Japan where 40,000 USD can buy a 100 sq/m apartment? A very good one.

The average teacher's salary in Japan is more so around 400,000 yen a month , equivalent to around $4,000 a month. Japanese families require both spouses to work; so if a woman is bringing home $4000 (US dollars) a month , and the other bringing in the same amount, then the household monthly income is $8,000 (US Dollars). With this amount, a family can live decently and quite well in Japan. That's more than the GDP per capita of Chinese people (which is $7,000 US Dollars) a year.

 

[Genesis]

The average teacher's salary in Japan is more so around 400,000 yen a month , equivalent to around $4,000 a month. Japanese families require both spouses to work; so if a woman is bringing home $4000 (US dollars) a month , and the other bringing in the same amount, then the household monthly income is $8,000 (US Dollars). With this amount, a family can live decently and quite well in Japan. That's more than the GDP per capita of Chinese people (which is $7,000 US Dollars) a year.

Japan is developed, we all know that dude, nobody is trying to prove otherwise.

8,000 dollars is decent, yes, but the key word is decent. It's also average, not for every teacher, I know for a fact that Canadian teachers make around 30,000 dollars a year. I'm talking elementary and Secondary.

And Canada and US far exceed Japanese per capita.

Now I'm not saying Japanese teacher's condition is worse, but it's not heaven and earth, at most it's Mcdonalds and Pizzahut.

Chinese teachers, pretty much eat the same food, maybe a little better due to prices, drive a smaller car, and lives in surprisingly a bigger apartment if you are in Tokyo, or if they are in a large city in China, then it be smaller or similar, and uses electronics made in China, which is also up to international standards now days, but a lot cheaper.

The difference is mainly social services, and luxury items, a Chinese teacher would probably never be able to afford a Hermes bag, but a Japanese teacher saves for a few years might.

 

[UnChosen]

8,000 dollars is decent, yes, but the key word is decent. It's also average, not for every teacher, I know for a fact that Canadian teachers make around 30,000 dollars a year. I'm talking elementary and Secondary.

Are you talking about private school or public school? Canadian public school teacher earns a starting salary of at least $45,000 a year and only goes up from there. If go to some rural "middle of no where" northern provinces to teach the pay goes up to $70,000+.

And all this is including the fact that our teachers have 2 months of real summer break, compared to I believe one month for Japan and China...where the teachers still have work like grading a long exam or other prep work.

The only teachers I've know to earn less than $40,000 are substitute teachers and private school teachers,

 

[Aepsilons]

Are you talking about private school or public school? Canadian public school teacher earns a starting salary of at least $45,000 a year and only goes up from there. If go to some rural "middle of no where" northern provinces to teach the pay goes up to $70,000+.

And all this is including the fact that our teachers have 2 months of real summer break, compared to I believe one month for Japan and China...where the teachers still have work like grading a long exam or other prep work.

The only teachers I've know to earn less than $40,000 are substitute teachers and private school teachers,

The salary of teachers in the United States is similar to College Instructors (full time), which is around $60,000 - $ 65,000 a year. Its decent salary. Teachers in the United States (depending on how many years experience) can go up to $85,000 a year. For college instructors , it usually stays at $65,000. Assistant Professors usually start at around $65,000 to $70,000. Tenured Associate Professors start around $80,000 to $90,000. Public institutions usually pay more than private and all have reasonable benefits packages.

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In Japan, a college instructor / Assistant Professor will average around ¥ 500,000 a month ($60,000 -- US Dollars a year)

Associate Professors (tenured) will average around ¥ 600,000 to ¥ 700,000 a month. That is equivalent to around $70,000 to $84,000 (US Dollars) a year.

 

[Aepsilons]

8,000 dollars is decent, yes, but the key word is decent. It's also average, not for every teacher, I know for a fact that Canadian teachers make around 30,000 dollars a year. I'm talking elementary and Secondary.

Canadian teachers don't make that a year, its more around $45,000 - $55,000 a year. Some provinces pay them over $90,000 a year:

Chinese teachers, pretty much eat the same food, maybe a little better due to prices, drive a smaller car, and lives in surprisingly a bigger apartment if you are in Tokyo, or if they are in a large city in China, then it be smaller or similar, and uses electronics made in China, which is also up to international standards now days, but a lot cheaper.

Sure, city living is quite expensive especially in Tokyo, but the salaries are also much higher in the cities.

 

[Genesis]

Are you talking about private school or public school? Canadian public school teacher earns a starting salary of at least $45,000 a year and only goes up from there. If go to some rural "middle of no where" northern provinces to teach the pay goes up to $70,000+.

And all this is including the fact that our teachers have 2 months of real summer break, compared to I believe one month for Japan and China...where the teachers still have work like grading a long exam or other prep work.

The only teachers I've know to earn less than $40,000 are substitute teachers and private school teachers,

so the actual teachers that I know are what? Morons? Or lying.

Keep in mind, I'm not reading some chart, I know these people, I grew up with them.

The salary of teachers in the United States is similar to College Instructors (full time), which is around $60,000 - $ 65,000 a year. Its decent salary. Teachers in the United States (depending on how many years experience) can go up to $85,000 a year. For college instructors , it usually stays at $65,000. Assistant Professors usually start at around $65,000 to $70,000. Tenured Associate Professors start around $80,000 to $90,000. Public institutions usually pay more than private and all have reasonable benefits packages.

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In Japan, a college instructor / Assistant Professor will average around ¥ 500,000 a month ($60,000 -- US Dollars a year)

Associate Professors (tenured) will average around ¥ 600,000 to ¥ 700,000 a month. That is equivalent to around $70,000 to $84,000 (US Dollars) a year.

I specifically mentioned elementary and secondary, for college, yes that seems to be the average more or less.

Canadian teachers don't make that a year, its more around $45,000 - $55,000 a year. Some provinces pay them over $90,000 a year:

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Sure, city living is quite expensive especially in Tokyo, but the salaries are also much higher in the cities.

Like I said before, I got first hand information from them.

Experience play a big role, though I will say, as they get more experience they do earn more, but it's still not that much relatively.


As to big cities, Shanghai and Beijing teachers also earn more, big cities earn more is true every where, not just in Japan.

why are you trying to tell me about Canada? I have far more Canadian friends than Chinese friends. I lived in Canada for far longer too.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Asian cultures tend to respect teachers more.

In USA, teachers are look down upon as failures so they have to end up teaching kids that no one wants to be around.

In Asian cultures, you have to be respectful to your former teachers and address them by laoshi or sensei, even when you become an adult.

In USA, kids are encourage to give their teacher a hard time so they can look cool in front of their peers.