Tamilnadu oppose India's Sanskrit week

[manlion]

BS. No archeologist will say like that. Only racists will say that.

There are no evidence to suggest 4 hela tribes were Dravidians.

Even if so it doesn't alter the staus quo. Sinhalese were originated in Sri Lanka not in India.

no need for archeologist evidence , mere common sense is sufficient to make a logical conclusion.
Sinhala Neo Nazis are hell bent on twisting and fabricating history . The region of South India including Lanka were inhabited by pre Dravidian tribes - e.g the Nagas were snake worshipping tribes, there are many places with the name Naga to trace the origin of these tribes in Tamilnadu - e.g Nagapatinam, Nagarcoil , Nagur

This is not to imply that Jaffna was always populated by Sinhalese before hand.
History of Jaffna

That's site is distorting facts - read up on Yarlpana Vaibhava Malai for a starter

 

[HeinzG]

no need for archeologist evidence , mere common sense is sufficient to make a logical conclusion.
Sinhala Neo Nazis are hell bent on twisting and fabricating history . The region of South India including Lanka were inhabited by pre Dravidian tribes - e.g the Nagas were snake worshipping tribes, there are many places with the name Naga to trace the origin of these tribes in Tamilnadu - e.g Nagapatinam, Nagarcoil , Nagur

Snake worshipping is part of Ta

You bank all of your bets on Nagas. May be there were Dravidians so does that mean there was Tamil eelam?

That's site is distorting facts - read up on Yarlpana Vaibhava Malai for a starter

Why should I read something which was written much later under Dutch influence when there are much earlier records on what happened in Sri Lanka such as the report of Fr. De Queros.

 

[DarkSeid]

but that logic is not entirely true .... in High literature Malayalam(my mother tongue) about 80% of words are borrowed from Sanskrit and rest Tamil(though in normal dialect 40-60% are from Tamil) ..but its still classified under dravidan language group..aryan/dravida classifications are not based on ethnicity,but two language groups.
sinhala language may be classified under indo aryan language,but that doesn't means that it was not influenced by other languages,especially Tamil....sinhala too have a fair amount of Tamil origin words...

See, my previous comment too. I don't know whether you know the fact that the written Sinhala is somewhat different from speaking one. The written Sinhala is highly based on Sanskrit & Pali influenced words.

 

[manlion]

You bank all of your bets on Nagas. May be there were Dravidians so does that mean there was Tamil eelam?

I just used the nagas as an e.g , the same applies to the rest - currently, the only original tribe remaining in Lanka are the veddas , who are not considered as Sinhalas even if they speak Sinhala , so your theory is debunked

 

[INDIC]

Sinhalese didn't arrive from anywhere. They were originated in Sri Lanka. The question about Indo-Aryan language can be easily solved by the fact that origins of the Sinhalese language was heavily influenced by Sanskrit and Pali. Both are North Indian languages associated with Buddhism.

@Saradiel

Even the Dravidian languages are highly influenced by Sanskrit but their base is still Dravidian and categorized as Dravidian languages. In case of Sinhala the base of the language is Indo-Aryan even if its deviated a lot from Northern Indian Indo-Aryan languages.

The writing systems of the Indo-Aryan and Dravidian languages have a common origin from Brahmi script. The Pallava Script spread to South East Asia to give rise to modern South-East asian writing system while Tibetan scripts originated from Gupta/Siddham Script of North India.

 

[Mike_Brando]

So far did any Indian member supported the creation of Dravidanadu, or only the outsiders are supporting it?

Na dada ekhono amader pakistani mitro ra kono Indian support paini r bechara manlion toh r ektu hole kedei phelbe!!Btw Bangladeshi gulo thik eibhabei prottek bar notun thread suru kore West Bengal er independence r Bangladesh er sathe integration cheye but at the end of the day amader hathe khisti kheye chup kore jai.Eder o mone ho66e aaj tai hobe.

 

[HeinzG]

I just used the nagas as an e.g , the same applies to the rest - currently, the only original tribe remaining in Lanka are the veddas , who are not considered as Sinhalas even if they speak Sinhala , so your theory is debunked

So the rest are Dravidian also. Was there any devil worshiping going on in Dravida culture? Beside what is your opinion about the "Balangoda man". He surpasses the oldest Dravidian people.

According to your theory what would have happened to the original hela tribes? Only Veddas were the real inhabitants of the island? Or the 4 hela tribes also migrated from India?

 

[Mike_Brando]

TN in particuler as there is no dispute with neighbouring countries but the state itself is a a dispute for India..they are living in their own world and not accepting the change! difficult to integrate them...suggest, cut them off!

And i suggest that you shut the F*ck up!!You should be ashamed of calling yourself an Indian citizen when you are openly supporting further division of India.So take it as a friendly advise,if you don't like this country you should rather immigrate to some lalaland and spare us of your rhetoric...

 

[bronxbull]

So, what is your conclusion, do you prefer separatism too.
I know that Vijay will prefer it highly . Such a disgusted fellow. SL should get an action to ban those cheap TN movies.

please dont mock the discussion here by mentioning the name of people like vijay,OMG.

appadi solla mudiyathu.. naan oru 4 varudam munaadi 'rameswaram' poiirundhen...ange avanoda niraya posters/fluxes paarthiruken....inge bangalore la kooda ange inge paarthiruken..avanukku kuripaa dalits madiyila periya selvakku irukiraanganu kelvipattiruken??

Ivan katchiye dalit katchi thaan,but only one caste amongst dalits.

 

[bronxbull]

what you fail to realize is in present times historical makeup of a country or part of a country hardly matters. It is the current demographics that matter. That is what decides the future. It is pointless to debate whether Jaffna was a part of Sinhala kings at the current time. Because what matters is demographics and external support. That is how countries loose part of its territory


can you please enlighten us about vellalars? How do they fit the caste system among Tamils? DO you have vellalars in TN? what profession they engaged in history

Vellalars are the elite in Tamizhnadu,there are many people who call themselves Vellalar.basically they are a land owning community.

They are shaivites,they worship the shiva and many of them are staunch vegetarians and count amongst the brahmins when you talk of the elite.

There are many vellalars in TN but the most proper amongst those come from the southernmost point of India,the bottom most 2-3 districts.

we are the only set of people especially the brahmins and the vellalars of southern tamizhnadu,we brahmins are mixed stock of north indian brahmins and south indian brahmins native of tamizhnadu,vellalars also have mixed blood with brahmins,it would be totally cool for a brahmin guy/girl to marry a vellalar girl/guy.

looks wise they look similar but there are differences in food/lifestyle/accent of tamizh used but largely we are close to each other.

The vellalars of northern srilanka are also very close to us in culture/food/lifestyle etc and also the upper castes of southern kerala,we all are very close to each other in temperament and intellect.

Thats why i can say with 100% surety that the dutch did not bring the vellalars to jaffna.

I wonder how do you make such claims,there is a royal family of jaffna and it is so close to rameswaram,where the maravar king sethupathy ruled till 1947.

There have been so many wars between sinhalese people of the south of the island and the jaffna kingdom and the maravrs of ramnad.

the tamizh they speak is very very antique and different from what we and the indian vellalars speak,

the kandy plantation tamils also say that they are vellalars but they are as vellalar as they are a fvckin monkey.

 

[DarkSeid]

please dont mock the discussion here by mentioning the name of people like vijay,OMG.

We know that earlier Jayalalita was an actress too. Who knows Vijay can become next CM. It's sad to see ordinary TN people believe their junk words,worship them as gods and try to get separated from India (Dravidanadu).
We will never forget Vijay's words as to erase SL from world map. Even his picture is annoying.

 

[bronxbull]

There are no special policies by the TN govt to promote English. The average middle class students studying in govt schools are less competent in English against the students from Private schools, which costs them in future studies and Jobs. To make them competent, JAYA announced some reforms in the govt school to increase their competency level in English. It's not like that Tamil Nadu given special promotions for English and banned Hindi/Sanskrit from learning.

If every state is promoting English, interact with us in English, why we need two languages to interact then?? It's an unnecessary burden on the students.

so are you telling me that every single tamil is going to speak english in future?

We know that earlier Jayalalita was an actress too. Who knows Vijay can become next CM. It's sad to see ordinary TN people believe their junk words,worship them as gods and try to get separated from India (Dravidanadu).
We will never forget Vijay's words as to erase SL from world map. Even his picture is annoying.

well you are not wrong about the stereotype of tamil people and also the kind of rotten culture they have allowed here but then jayalalitha being actress is only a coincidence,she comes from a very cultured family and she is an extremely well read sophisticated woman.

Vijay is not fit to polish her sandals.

You make some assumptions which are sad,vijay ll never become the CM of TN,he just talks like that in order to create a hype and mass frenzy and profit from it.

You should not take him too seriously.the only tamils who are passionate were those who joined the LTTE & fought,others are all verbal pussies.

 

[manlion]

So the rest are Dravidian also. Was there any devil worshiping going on in Dravida culture? Beside what is your opinion about the "Balangoda man". He surpasses the oldest Dravidian people.

I said pre Dravidian tribes, please check my post - Based on physical attributes the Veddas can be consider as the biological continuation of the Balangoda Man.

According to your theory what would have happened to the original hela tribes? Only Veddas were the real inhabitants of the island? Or the 4 hela tribes also migrated from India?

the original tribes were subjected to Sinhala Buddhist genocide, I cant speculate , may be there was a time when Lanka was joined to mainland Tamilnadu

 

[DarkSeid]

well you are not wrong about the stereotype of tamil people and also the kind of rotten culture they have allowed here but then jayalalitha being actress is only a coincidence,she comes from a very cultured family and she is an extremely well read sophisticated woman.

Vijay is not fit to polish her sandals.

You make some assumptions which are sad,vijay ll never become the CM of TN,he just talks like that in order to create a hype and mass frenzy and profit from it.

You should not take him too seriously.the only tamils who are passionate were those who joined the LTTE & fought,others are all verbal pussies.

Then he is just promoting his masala movies only. Discussions about religion and race are sensitive issues, it will never give an end as this never ending thread.

the original tribes were subjected to Sinhala Buddhist genocide, I cant speculate , may be there was a time when Lanka was joined to mainland Tamilnadu

You are telling jokes right now. When did mainland TN exist?

 

[manlion]

You are telling jokes right now. When did mainland TN exist?

probably this was how the land mass look like 5000 yrs ago