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Tamil Nadu fishermen provoking conflict by entering Lankan waters

trouble makers in SL are punished, what we meant here are foreign trouble makers in Lankan seas or soil. We cant punish them according to Lankan law because the ones in their country does not allow us to do that.

motive - keeping Ind-SL relationship under strained

India is finding no problem punishing the SLn trouble makers in India .

And you are telling me the India made an issue out of Lanka punishing Indian trouble makers . That sounds like BS .
 
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Do you know why? Because it is BS :D
India is finding no problem punishing the SLn trouble makers in India .

And you are telling me the India made an issue out of Lanka punishing Indian trouble makers . That sounds like BS .
 
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The Palk Bay catch

Sri Lanka’s latest position that it will prosecute Indian fishermen arrested for poaching instead of arranging for their early release is bound to cause alarm in Tamil Nadu, where over 100 families await the return of their kin from Sri Lankan jails. The country’s External Affairs Minister, G.L. Peiris, has clarified that the stress is not on detention, but deterrence; and that a fine, rather than a long jail term, could be equally effective. This may not be enough to address the disquiet in Tamil Nadu over their continued imprisonment. Chief Minister Jayalalithaa has repeatedly asked for India’s intervention, and the Union government has summoned the Sri Lankan High Commissioner and issued a démarche. Sri Lanka’s response has been to highlight the frequency, scale and unsustainable nature of poaching by Indian fishermen. It is understandable that Colombo believes imprisonment for just a few days is insufficient deterrence against repeated incursions and plunder of its marine resources. It is possible that diplomatic intervention may ultimately set free all those detained, but it will hardly be the end of the problem.

Routine crossings, arrests and release need not be the only way of dealing with this seemingly intractable problem. On the one hand, fishermen in Tamil Nadu believe Sri Lankan waters are their “traditional” fishing grounds, and on the other, their Tamil counterparts in northern Sri Lanka, eager to make full use of their post-war freedom to fish, understandably resent the repeated incursions of Indian fishers into their maritime territory. Any meeting ground between these two claims will have to come from the fishermen themselves. Any settlement they arrive at will have to be backed by appropriate government measures. It is in this context that New Delhi and Colombo must facilitate a fresh process of negotiations on how best the two sides could share the marine resources. The earlier such a process is begun the better for fishermen from both sides. Further, the bilateral Joint Working Group on Fisheries has not met for a long time and it is India’s turn to host it. A key priority will be to ensure that Tamil fishermen in northern Sri Lanka, who were robbed of their livelihood during the war years, be given a chance to reclaim their maritime resources. The available resources are insufficient to meet the competing demands of both sides, and some will have to look for alternative livelihoods. Instead of crying foul over routine arrests, the Tamil Nadu government must strengthen measures to wean its fishermen away from unsustainable fishing practices, encourage deep-sea fishing and come up with livelihood solutions for those left out.

The Palk Bay catch - The Hindu
 
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We have arrested sri lankan citizens for drug trafficking , human trafficking , gold trafficking and what not .

We are also annoyed . And you are not saints either .

yeah, mostly Tamils......
 
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yeah, mostly Tamils......

Doesnot matter to other countries .

For them they are SriLankans .

But then again you don't have any proof to show that all the SLn criminals arrested in India are Tamils .
 
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India is finding no problem punishing the SLn trouble makers in India .

why should india find any problem in punishing SLn trouble makers in india, if any one finds it a problem it should be SL ne (which we dont)
but we rarely hear abt SLns go and do ILLEGAL fishing in indian waters.

And you are telling me the India made an issue out of Lanka punishing Indian trouble makers . That sounds like BS .

Either you havent grasped what I said or havent read what I said.

For a suggestion read this thread from the beginning
 
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why should india find any problem in punishing SLn trouble makers in india, if any one finds it a problem it should be SL ne (which we dont)
but we rarely hear abt SLns go and do ILLEGAL fishing in indian waters.

Either you havent grasped what I said or havent read what I said.

For a suggestion read this thread from the beginning

You mis-understood me . I was not talking about the fisherman but the ones on SL soil .

Especially this ,

illegal fishing in SL waters, illegal workers in roadside stalls, + TN pick-pocketing teams.... so annoying Indian Tamilnadu Tamilas!
 
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TN fishermen provoking conflict by entering Lankan waters

Anirban Bhaumik, Aug 22, 2013, DHNS:

Dharmalingam’s pursuit of livelihood abruptly came to a pause on June 15, when he was arrested by Sri Lankan navy for allegedly crossing the international maritime boundary line in Palk Strait and illegally fishing in the island nation’s waters. The fisherman from Rameshwaram in Tamil Nadu had to spend eight weeks in a jail in Sri Lanka before he was set free on August 16 to come back home — penniless and, of course, without a catch.

He was just one among many Indian fishermen who go through such ordeals. The number of Tamil Nadu fishermen in Sri Lanka’s custody went up to 114 by early August. Chief minister J Jayalalitha has writen to prime minister Manmohan Singh, calling upon the Centre to lodge a strong protest against “unlawful abduction and arrest” of fishermen by the Sri Lankan navy.

Colombo, however, says that the fishermen were arrested only after they illegally entered the Lankan waters – a claim, which New Delhi too quietly endorses. The demarche the Sri Lankan envoy to India, Prasad Kariyawasam, was served when he was called in to the ministry of external affairs on August 7 conveyed Delhi’s protest to Colombo over the delay in release of the incarcerated fishermen, but did not question the legitimacy of the arrests. For, many fishermen of Tamil Nadu do cross the maritime boundary and only a few of them do it inadvertently. This is a fact well acknowledged by both sides, yet it often gets drowned in the cacophony of competitive Sri Lanka bashing in Tamil Nadu. “Fishermen from both sides must learn to respect the IMBL and not tread on the fishing grounds owned by the fishermen of the other country,” says Kariyawasam.

Colombo claims that as many as 29,039 fishing boats from Tamil Nadu were spotted on the Sri Lankan waters in the last seven months, with the highest – 8369 – being recorded in July. “Indians come in droves to fish in Sri Lankan waters because the resources on the other side have depleted fast over the past few years, particularly after the Tamil Nadu fishermen started using motorised bottom-trawlers, giving up traditional boats and sustainable fishing methods,” says S P Anthonymuttu, an advisor to the ministry of fisheries and aquatic resources of Sri Lankan government.

Two agreements

Asked about the root of the problem, the fisher-folk, politicians and intelligentsia of Tamil Nadu will all point to the two agreements, which India and Sri Lanka inked in 1974 and 1976 to settle the maritime boundary. They allege that India not only ‘ceded’ Kachchatheevu to Sri Lanka in 1974, but also gave away the Tamil Nadu fishermen’s rights on the resource-rich fishing area around the 285.2 acre island. The Articles 5 and 6 of the 1974 agreement do protect the ‘traditional rights’ of Indian pilgrims and fishermen on and around Kachchatheevu.

Sri Lankan government, however, says that the ‘traditional rights’ for Indian pilgrims were limited to attending the annual festival at the church on Kachchatheevu, while those of Indian fishermen were restricted to going to the islet only to dry their nets. The 1976 pact and subsequent Exchange of Letters between New Delhi and Colombo, however, categorically ruled out the Indian and Sri Lankan fishermen’s rights to fish in each other’s historic waters, continental shelf and Exclusive Economic Zone.

“The 1974 and 1976 agreements put in peril livelihood of thousands of fishermen in India and are at the root of all the problems we are experiencing today,” says N Devadas, an advisor to the Tamil Nadu Fishermen’s Federation.

As the ethnic conflict erupted in Sri Lanka in 1983, the fishermen of its northern and eastern provinces were barred from fishing, amid fears that they might be used by the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam to smuggle in weapons. A large number of Tamil Nadu fishermen were also killed in the crossfire between Sri Lankan soldiers and the LTTE guerrillas. Since late 1990s, however, Sri Lankan navy generally looked the other way, when fishers from Tamil Nadu went to fish in the island nation’s waters, barring, of course, some militarily sensitive areas.

Lankan fishermen returned to the seas only after the government eased restrictions on fishing following the 2002 truce with the LTTE. “Since the end of the civil war in Sri Lanka, the nature of the conflict in Palk Bay has changed from the one between Indian fishermen and Sri Lankan navy to the one that set technologically less advantaged Sri Lankan fishers against their Tamil Nadu counterparts, who use high-yielding mechanised bottom trawlers,” says A S Soosai, an associate professor in Jaffna University.

The ‘Tamil cause’ in Sri Lanka often raised passion and influenced politics in Tamil Nadu. The fishing conflict in Palk Strait, however, has Tamils on both sides and it does turn violent at times. Five Tamil Nadu fishermen were injured in an attack by their Sri Lankan counterparts off the coast of Kodiakarai on July 30. The two governments have been encouraging their fishermen to meet and try to resolve the conflict. Devadas and Anthonymuttu are coordinating efforts in India and Sri Lanka for dialogues between leaders of fishermen from both sides.

As over-exploitation resulted in rapid depletion of fish stocks in Indian waters, DMK chief M Karunanidhi recently demanded that New Delhi should ask Colombo to allow Tamil Nadu fishers to fish in Sri Lankan waters for at least a few months every year. Sri Lanka earlier rejected a proposal from India to issue licenses to some Tamil Nadu fishermen to fish across the IMBL.

A possible way to resolve the issue is to encourage fishermen of both sides to go beyond the narrow strait between the two nations for deep sea fishing in resource-rich international waters in the vicinity. A Sri Lankan business delegation was in New Delhi recently to explore tie-ups with fishers of Andhra Pradesh for a joint venture for deep sea fishing in Bay of Bengal. More such initiatives will possibly avert future flashpoints in the fishing conflicts in the Palk Strait.

TN fishermen provoking conflict by entering Lankan waters

best option is to shoot them and kill or make the boats sink , without putting them in to jail and feed them on our tax money.those people might be getting better meals in jails than what they usually have and i think they like to get arrested
 
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35 Indian fishermen arrested off SL's west coast

15:38 HRS IST

Colombo/Rameswaram, Aug 26 (PTI) At least 35 Indian fishermen have been arrested and their four boats have been seized for allegedly violating the international maritime boundary line, Navy said today.

Naval spokesman Commander Kosala Warnakulasuriya said the fishermen were arrested and their four trawlers were seized last night off Kalpitiya, Sri Lanka's west coast.

They are currently being escorted to be handed over to Kalpitiya police, Warnakulasuriya said.

The fishermen will be charged for violating the international maritime border line, the Navy said.

fullstory





Sri Lanka Navy arrests 35 Indian fishermen from Tamil Nadu

Mon, Aug 26, 2013, 12:45 pm

Aug 26, Kalpitiya: Sri Lankan Navy personnel have arrested 35 Tamil Nadu fishermen on Monday (26) for allegedly poaching in Sri Lankan waters and seized their four boats.

The Navy said a naval patrol craft attached to the North Western Naval Command arrested the 35 Indian fishermen a in four Indian fishing boats engaged in illegal fishing in the seas north of Kalpitiya.

The Navy has taken measures to hand over the arrested fishermen and the boats to Kalpitiya Police for legal action, the Navy said.

As many as 106 Tamil Nadu fishermen are jailed in Sri Lankan prisons for crossing the International Maritime Boundary Line and fishing in the country's territorial waters.

Sri Lanka says Indian fishermen, taking advantage of Sri Lanka's procedure of releasing them after mediation by the Indian High Commission office, are deliberately indulge in illegal fishing.

To deter the invading fishermen in future Sri Lanka will not release the seized boats to the owners, Fisheries and Aquatic Resources Minister Rajitha Senaratne said.

http://www.colombopage.com/archive_13B/Aug26_1377501322CH.php
 
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“The situation is particularly worrisome because our domestic political compulsions are driving Colombo to get closer to Islamabad. Since we have stopped training the Lankan military personnel, they are seeking training facilities in Pakistan and that is bringing the two allies even closer”, the officer said.

He said, “It is unfortunate that for the sake of some 20,000 fishermen, we are turning our southern neighbour against us.

Our fishermen hug their coast and empty their marine wealth upside down; yet we support these marauding fishermen and demand that they have a free run of another country’s waters. We are such a mighty nation but still, we want to steal the little resources of a tiny island just recovering from a long war”.


Sri Lanka call not serious, danger lurks | Deccan Chronicle
 
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:lol: Good response from the GOI to those barking about Katchateevu to excuse petty thives

Kachchatheevu was not ceded to Sri Lanka, Centre tells court

The Union government on Friday informed the Supreme Court that the question of retrieval of Kachchatheevu from Sri Lanka did not arise as no territory belonging to India was ceded to Sri Lanka.

Taking on record the Centre’s response to a writ petition filed by Tamil Nadu Chief Minister Jayalalithaa seeking retrieval of Kachchatheevu from Sri Lanka, a Bench of Justices B.S. Chauhan and S.A. Bobde posted the matter for final hearing after three weeks to enable Ms. Jayalalithaa to file her rejoinder.

Ms. Jayalalithaa, who filed the petition in December 2008 as AIADMK general secretary, sought a declaration as unconstitutional the 1974 and 1976 agreements between New Delhi and Colombo on ceding of Kachchatheevu, an island off the Rameswaram coast, to Sri Lanka.

Ms. Jayalalithaa said the island was historically part of the Ramnad Raja’s zamindari and later it became part of the Madras Presidency. The island was always of strategic importance and special significance for fishing operations in the area. In or around 1921, Sri Lanka started claiming territorial rights over the island without any justification and notwithstanding such claims it continued to be part of India. She highlighted the sufferings of fishermen from Tamil Nadu who inadvertently strayed into the island. Because of the hostile attitude of the Sri Lankan navy, fishermen feared to go fishing as they were either killed or taken into custody if they entered Kachchatheevu.

In its response, the Centre said the island was a matter of dispute between British India and Ceylon (now Sri Lanka) and there was no agreed boundary. The dispute relating to the status of this island was settled in 1974 by an agreement and both countries examined the entire question from all angles and took into account historical evidence and legal aspects. This position was reiterated in the 1976 agreement.

It said: “no territory belonging to India was ceded nor sovereignty relinquished since the area in question was in dispute and had never been demarcated.” Therefore, the contention of Ms. Jayalalithaa that Kachchatheevu was ceded to Sri Lanka was not correct and contrary to official records.”

The Centre said as per the two agreements, no fishing rights in Sri Lankan waters were bestowed to Indian fishermen. Under the agreements “Indian fishermen and pilgrims will enjoy access to visit Kachchatheevu and will not be required by Sri Lanka to obtain travel documents or visas for these purposes. The right of access is not to be understood to cover fishing rights around the island to Indian fishermen.”

On the frequent incidents of firing against Indian fishermen by the Sri Lankan Navy and their arrest, the Centre said “the government has always taken up on a priority basis with Sri Lanka including at the highest levels any incident involving safety and security of Indian fishermen in the waters between two countries. Whenever Indian fishermen were arrested, the government of India intervened and got them released,” it said and sought dismissal of the petition as not maintainable.

Kachchatheevu was not ceded to Sri Lanka, Centre tells court - The Hindu
 
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