Talks for Su-35, Mi-35 sales to Pakistan are underway: Russian Deputy FM

[batmannow]

Just to tease India.. nothing serious..

Teasing India ?
Will they use depty foreign minster to give that statement ?
Friend Russia don't needs , any of that , they are just ready to bussines !
BTW , I guess Pakistan is getting ready to attack India THE DAM COLD END ?

BHAI nooroun ko idhar maat laao.

Norray are good for making motorway.

this is purely an airforce decision

& you think money will be given by PAF ? Themselves ?
Federal govt has to do all of the paper work & finances ?
actully it not been confirmed by PAF ,its the russian side , so let's hear from our boys but I think , COASs vist to Russia was very important .

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Su-35

 

[macnurv]

BHAI nooroun ko idhar maat laao.

Norray are good for making motorway.

this is purely an airforce decision

yar come on, the funds are to be provided by the GOP, PAF doesn't have its own little kitty stashed somewhere. So give credit where its due.

 

[Politico]

isolating hindustan from russia will be the best thing pak can do. it will be like cutting off a snake's tail

 

[batmannow]

yar come on, the funds are to be provided by the GOP, PAF doesn't have its own little kitty stashed somewhere. So give credit where its due.

Not the credit but should but to incrouge them for more ?
Feed me more !lolzz

 

[Yaduveer]

isolating hindustan from russia will be the best thing pak can do. it will be like cutting off a snake's tail

Do you know how much these costs .. atleast $200-250 Billion dollar (equal to Pakistan's GDP), Russia don't have guts to throw them in dustbin for sake of couple of Heli and su35s


India and Russia have several major joint military programmes including:

• BrahMos cruise missile programme
• 5th generation fighter jet programme (This alone is worth of $35 billion dollar)
• Sukhoi Su-30MKI programme (230+ to be built by Hindustan Aeronautics)
• Ilyushin/HAL Tactical Transport Aircraft

Additionally, India has purchased/leased various military hardware from Russia:

• Kamov Ka-226 200 to be made in India under the Make in India initiative.
• T-90S Bhishma with over 1000 to be built in India
• Akula-II nuclear submarine (2 to be leased with an option to buy when the lease expires)
• INS Vikramaditya aircraft carrier programme
• Tu-22M3 bombers (4 ordered)
• US$900 million upgrade of MiG-29
• Mil Mi-17 (80 ordered)
• Ilyushin Il-76 Candid (6 ordered to fit Israeli Phalcon radar)
• The Farkhor Air Base in Tajikistan is currently jointly operated by Indian Air Force and Tajikistan Air Force.

 

[princefaisal]

60 Su-35 would be a good figure for PAF.

 

[batmannow]

Do you know how much these costs .. atleast $200-250 Billion dollor , Russia don't have guts to throw them in dustbin for sake of couple of Heli and su35s


India and Russia have several major joint military programmes including:

• BrahMos cruise missile programme
• 5th generation fighter jet programme (This alone is worth of $35 billion dollor)
• Sukhoi Su-30MKI programme (230+ to be built by Hindustan Aeronautics)
• Ilyushin/HAL Tactical Transport Aircraft

Additionally, India has purchased/leased various military hardware from Russia:

• Kamov Ka-226 200 to be made in India under the Make in India initiative.
• T-90S Bhishma with over 1000 to be built in India
• Akula-II nuclear submarine (2 to be leased with an option to buy when the lease expires)
• INS Vikramaditya aircraft carrier programme
• Tu-22M3 bombers (4 ordered)
• US$900 million upgrade of MiG-29
• Mil Mi-17 (80 ordered)
• Ilyushin Il-76 Candid (6 ordered to fit Israeli Phalcon radar)
• The Farkhor Air Base in Tajikistan is currently jointly operated by Indian Air Force and Tajikistan Air Force.

Those days were gone ,big brother CHINA is more keen to equipe Pakistan so can defend its huge investment in Pakistan ?lol

 

[Yaduveer]

Those days were gone ,big brother CHINA is more keen to equipe Pakistan so can defend its huge investment in Pakistan ?lol

China is not our concern, Everybody knows quality of Chinese product.

Russian want us to buy 40 more Su-30s which we would obliges but these type of media outing would do more harms than good to Russian sanctioned economy.

 

[shah1398]

Can anyone give the PAF version of this development? I have not seen or heard of any PAF involvement in this nor have heard from any PAF guy with regards to possible induction of SU-35s.

 

[New Resolve]

I think once India signs on with French Rafale, Everything will become fair game in Pak-Russia ties, Injuns up for a big shock.

 

[batmannow]

SU 35


The impressive Su-35S is the latest incarnation of the T-10 family of fighter aircraft. It would be fair to describe this aircraft as the pinnacle of current conventional fighter design, blending a superb basic aerodynamic design with advanced engine, flight control and avionic technology.

The designation Su-35 has been applied to two basic Flanker configurations since 1991. The first aircraft to carry the Su-35 label was the early 1990s digital T-10M/Su-27M Flanker E, powered by the Al-31FM engine and fitted with the Tikhomirov NIIP N011 planar array radar. Export configurations were designated Su-35. This aircraft was used as the basis of the Su-37 Flanker F advanced technology demonstrator, often labelled as the Super Flanker. The Su-37 was used as a platform to prove a modern glass cockpit, the N011M BARS PESA radar, thrust vector control engines and a quadruplex digital flgiht control system with an electrical sidestick controller. Much of the technology proven on the Su-37 migrated into the Su-30MKI/MKM Flanker H exported to Asia.

The current Su-35S, ordered in 2009 for the Russian Air Force, was the result of a series of design studies for a deep modernisation of the Su-27M design. This was actually more of a deep re-engineering of the basic design in the manner of the F-15E against the F-15C performed during the 1980s. The new Su-35BM retained the basic aerodynamic design and much of the structural design of the late model Flanker, but sees important aerodynamic enhancements and completely new engines and digital systems.

Notable changes include the removal of the dorsal speedbrake, additional internal fuel, and plumbing for AAR and external drop tanks. A quadruplex digital flight control system is used. The Item 117S engines, which use key components of the Al-41F supercruising core, are employed. The Su-35S is the first non-US fighter with substantial sustained supersonic cruise capability, which provides this aircraft with an enormous energy advantage against conventional opponents in most regimes of air combat.

The avionic suite is fully digital. The centrepiece is the Tikhomirov NIIP N035 Irbis E (Snow Leopard) 20 kiloWatt class steerable hybrid ESA radar. A new glass cockpit is employed, using large area displays. The Khibiny electronic warfare suite is employed, with new wingtip DRFM technology jamming pods.

The aircraft is intended to carry the full spectrum of Russian air to air and air to ground guided weapons.

Given the large performance margin in the Su-35S design, it has considerable long term growth potential. It is likely that it will become the platform for the first Russian built large aperture AESA radars, as well as the R-172 very long range AAM.

In strategic terms the Su-35S is a game changer, as it robustly outclasses all competing Western fighter aircraft other than the F-22A Raptor. Deployed in significant numbers it is capable of changing the balance of power in any region where this occurs. This reality does not appear to be widely understood in most Western air forces, or DoD bureaucracies. Aircraft IOC will be achieved in 2012.

 

[SecularNationalist]

We are also getting a twin engine aircraft trainer from russia which shows we re going to get some russian dual engine SU-35 jet.

 

[Paksanity]

Can anyone give the PAF version of this development? I have not seen or heard of any PAF involvement in this nor have heard from any PAF guy with regards to possible induction of SU-35s.

Air Chief did say we are looking both east and west for our next fighter. I wonder if he meant Russia when he said east. No word by PAF otherwise on this.

 

[rashid.sarwar]

So tell we can't afford a nicely configured J17 and we are going for su35....