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Continuation of drone strikes and US's reluctance to tender an apology over the killing of 24 Pakistani soldiers proved to be stumbling blocks in the talks between United States and Pakistan, reports Tahir Ali

While Pakistan and the United States resumed formal talks after a five-month deadlock, nothing consequential resulted from the meetings between United States Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan Marc Grossman and the top brass of the Pakistani civil and military leadership.


During his two-day visit, Grossman held meeting with President Asif Ali Zardari, Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani, Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar and Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvaiz Kayani.


Grossman was reportedly asked for a review of Pakistan-US relations in line with Parliament's recommendations. But no 'satisfactory' outcome was witnessed as the continuation of drone strikes and US's reluctance to tender an apology over the killing of 24 Pakistani soldiers at Salala check-point proved to be contentious issues.


But the US official assured that his government was ready to settle some other issues like the delayed payments for the Coalition Support Fund with Pakistan.


Talking about his visit, Grossman said, "We want to work to reopen the ground lines of communication. We want to discuss several outstanding claims for the CSF. We are ready to get to work on our shared counter-terrorism objectives."


But the US side stuck to its stance over the continuation of the drone strikes, no apology over the attack on Salala check post and new terms of engagement.


The US is not ready to stop drone strikes in the tribal areas of Pakistan because the Central Intelligence Agency claims that the high level of Al Qaeda and Taliban leadership has been 'decimated' by these strikes.


Pakistan has repeatedly termed these attack as an infringement of its sovereignty. Since its inception in 2004, the US has so far carried out 295 drone strikes in the tribal areas of Pakistan.


When Khar was asked about the issue of drone strikes after her meeting with Grossman, she said, "US didn't want to listen to Pakistan's demands of halting the US drone attacks. Other means should be used to take out militants in Pakistan's northwestern tribal region near the Afghanistan border."


President Zardari, terming the drone strikes as counter-productive, told the US envoy, "Drone attacks are highly counter-productive in the war against militants. Both sides should consider setting up a framework of mechanism to find mutually acceptable alternatives."


But the deadlock over opening up Pakistani routes for NATO supplies to Afghanistan, which was shut down by Islamabad after the Salala check post strike, continues as the US has refused to apologise for the incident.


Although Washington had earlier indicated to Pakistani interlocutors that the American civilian and military leadership was ready to tender an apology for the incident, it changed its stance at the last moment.


According to Grossman, the US had reneged on its commitment towards apologising for the Salala incident -- that he had communicated to Pakistan during the London meeting between Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Khar -- for a variety of reasons, chiefly President Barack Obama's domestic political compulsions.


According to Zardari's spokesperson Farhatullah Babar, the Pakistan president told the US official, "After the Pakistan side has followed the democratic course for re-engagement with the United States based on transparency, mutual interest and respect, it is now the US's turn to fully appreciate the democratic course and to help Pakistan in reaching closure on Salala, by helping the Pakistan government follow the path as indicated by the parliament."


Before the visit of the US envoy, Pakistani authorities had sensed that there might not be an immediate solution to the issue.


Before Grossman's visit to Pakistan, Khar had stated that the ban on NATO supplies should be considered 'indefinite' for now.


"Although there is considerable US pressure on the government to reopen the route, circumstances demand that we stick to our guns. For the Pakistan-US equation to be fixed, it is imperative that we are regarded as equals, not serfs," Khar reportedly said.

Grossman also held meeting with the military leadership and discussed the issue of CSF payments. Pakistan was supposed to get $800 million under the CSF in the fiscal year but it has not got a single penny since December 2010.


Grossman assured Pakistani authorities that the early reimbursement of approximately $1.5 billion under the CSF, withheld since a long time, will finally be released.


According to experts, if the only positive outcome of the visit was the release of CSF payments, then this clearly indicates that the US has not had a change of heart about reviewing ties with the civilian government in Pakistan.

Talks FAIL: Pakistan still wants an apology, US says NO - Rediff.com India News


What`s the problem in apology ? If they did that mistakenly then why not simply accept it? :what:
 
Have they provided any compensation for soldier's families
 
It means US is in no hurry to get supply route opened and the Drone Attack is going on without any hurdle. So no compulsions for US.
 
But they did apologize to Afghanistan recently.

They even apologized for detention of shahrukh khan.

But what i think, is that, America thinks it has not done mistake and the salala incident was a unfortunate series of incidents, so no question of apology arises. You apologize only after commiting mistake, they think they have not done any wrong act.

While Pakistan thinks America purposefully attacked checkpost, so demands apology (which is correct).

The two differing views lead to stalemate.
 
USA owes no apology or even explanation for that matter to Pakistanis who are harboring terrorists and openly supports them in their so called sacred land.PA had not informed NATO about this post and hence was simple case of mistaken identify.
Kill them all USA.
 
But what i think, is that, America thinks it has not done mistake and the salala incident was a unfortunate series of incidents, so no question of apology arises. You apologize only after commiting mistake, they think they have not done any wrong act

No, killing 24 soldiers is obviously just a mistake. Tomorrow they'll dropping a nuke on Islamabad, obviously by mistake.

Americans are d-ks.
 
They apology to india an srk issue
but not apologizing on killing of soldiers
shameful for us
 
No, killing 24 soldiers is obviously just a mistake. Tomorrow they'll dropping a nuke on Islamabad, obviously by mistake.

Americans are d-ks.

I agree with you that killing soldiers cannot brushed aside.

But americans think that it was a incident or unfortunate series of accidents and miscommunications.
Otherwise they could have easily apologized atleast formal apology (they also want to open NATO route), but they think have not commited a mistake.
 
who will blink the eye first
1. pakistan (need support economically )
2. usa (need nato ground supplies open)

whos in a hurry ?

i guess usa after recent attacks in afghanistan they need to respond strongly .
but their wont be an apology maybe they sanction more money to pakistan . tough times ahead
 
Americans view Pakistanis unfavorably to the point they think of us too lowly to apologize.
 
In a way... I am happy tht US is not apologising.. Bcoz we know, tht even if they will apologise, they dont mean it... We know, tht they did the Salala incident deliberately...it was not a mistake, but a clear act of agression...so why apology? What will their so called fake apology give us? Should apology be enough for deliberately killing our 24 soldiers? I want Nato ground supplies, to be permanently stopped...and tht is only possible...when they dont apologise...Apology shouldnt be enough for restoring nato ground supplies...but i know, the day they apologise, our politicians will be more than ready to restore nato ground supplies....Even i am surprised...how a Pro US person like Zardari hasnt restored nato ground supplies yet? I think Pak Army has taken a strict stand on this...thts why supplies havent been restored yet by Zardari..but i am sure, the day, they say sorry, Zardari will reopen nato ground supplies, the next sec... Also we know, how US shows gratitude when u do them a favor... The day Raymond Davis was released, the next day, US drone killed 40 ppl...whereas, until Davis was in our custody, they had temporarily stopped drones for those 2 months.... So...plzzz no apology, so tht nato ground supplies, arent restored...
 
I do not think pakistan needs apology. If i put myself in place of pakistani I will not give a Rat sh*t if americans say sorry or not. It is sheer waste of time for pak govt. to force USA to apologize.

Do you think death of 24 soldiers = apology of americans ? Nothing will change even if they apologize. even if they say WE are sorry for it, thn next day an F/a 18 will enter pakistan and will bomb again. So what difference it makes ?

I would have been so pissed if I were pakistani on this situation.
 
USA owes no apology or even explanation for that matter to Pakistanis who are harboring terrorists and openly supports them in their so called sacred land.PA had not informed NATO about this post and hence was simple case of mistaken identify.
Kill them all USA.

Thank you for your ill informed troll..
 

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