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The Lashkar-e-Taiba has blamed India for the Karachi airport attack, the latest of many signs that it may be preparing the ground for terror strikes. Mr. Modi promised to hit back, but can he?

Few Indians would have been up before dawn that morning after 26/11, as Prime Minister Manmohan Singh sat around his office, watching the images of Mumbai burning. He may have wondered if the country would be at war before it woke. Intelligence Bureau officers who had been listening-in to the attackers’ conversations with their commanders in Karachi, had told the Prime Minister that there was little doubt of Pakistani involvement. Dr. Singh seemed stirred: “the people of India will not forgive us if we do nothing,” an aide recalls him saying.

He chose, however, to ignore his instincts. In a speech delivered on November 27, even as the bodies of victims were still strewn on the ground, the Prime Minister promised upgraded security forces, and aggressive diplomacy — everything, other than punitive action against the perpetrators.

“Listen up,” wrote Haruki Murakami, “there’s no war to end all wars.” Dr. Singh’s generals told him much the same thing, and he heard them.

“They did nothing,” said the man who has become India’s next Prime Minister, in a campaign speech centred on 26/11, “Indians died and they did — nothing.” “Talk to Pakistan in Pakistan’s language,” he went on, “because it won’t learn lessons until then.”

Looming threats
Ever since that morning, India’s strategic community has discussed what the country ought to do when the next 26/11 happens. Prime Minister Narendra Modi, India’s intelligence services fear, may have to answer that question sooner than most people expect. The Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) staged its first operation against an Indian target since 26/11 just hours before Mr. Modi took office, attacking India’s mission in Herat. Lashkar chief Hafiz Muhammad Saeed blamed Mr. Modi for this week’s attacks on Karachi — and demanded vengeance.

From past evidence, we know these threats aren’t idle. “The only language India understands is that of force,” a press release issued by the Lashkar’s parent organisation, Jamaat-ud-Dawa recorded Mr. Saeed as saying before 26/11, “and that is the language it must be talked to in.”

From files he will have read since taking office, Mr. Modi will have learned why Dr. Singh did nothing. Indian combat jets could hit training camps across the Line of Control (LoC), Air Chief Marshal Fali Major said at a November 29 meeting called for by the Prime Minister, but precise coordinates and adequate imaging weren’t available. Later, General Deepak Kapoor, the chief of Army staff, told Dr. Singh he couldn’t promise special forces’ strikes would be successful either.

No one could guarantee missile strikes wouldn’t escalate into war, or even a nuclear exchange — and no one could guarantee war would compel Pakistan’s military to change course.

Five hard options
Mr. Modi’s advisers know five responses are on the table — but all of them involve great risks. The first is to keep doing nothing. The threat of a major India-Pakistan crisis after 26/11 led the United States to mount intense pressure on Pakistan. In the years since, the LeT hasn’t mounted a single major operation on Indian soil. Its affiliate, the Indian Mujahideen, has had restraint thrust upon it by Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Directorate.

Inaction, though, only succeeds if someone else does the hard work. In 2008, fearing its own war in Afghanistan would be undermined by an India-Pakistan war, the U.S. stepped in. Now, as it prepares to withdraw from Afghanistan, the country’s appetite for playing global policeman is diminishing. Doing nothing could thus invite even more punishment.

Like Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee, Mr. Modi’s second choice might be coercion. In 2001, after terrorists attacked Parliament, India mobilised troops. Pakistan was forced to respond — but its smaller economy suffered disproportionately. The stratagem is time-tested. In 1953, Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru mobilised troops in Punjab to deter a Pakistani attack into Kashmir.

Mr. Vajpayee’s strategy worked, forcing Pakistan to dramatically scale down the jihad in Jammu and Kashmir. It only worked, though, because the U.S. played mediator — much like after 26/11 — and it was hideously expensive, in money and lives.

The third choice is to do what Dr. Singh couldn’t: limited strikes on jihadist training camps across the LoC, using air power or missiles. In the five years since 26/11, India’s ability to conduct such strikes has been significantly enhanced. However, the tactic hasn’t had great success. In August 1998, the United States fired missiles into Afghanistan, seeking to avenge bombings which killed 224 people. In all, 75 missiles, each priced at $1.5 million, killed six minor jihadists. Moreover, Pakistan could hit back, targeting Indian industrial infrastructure, which is much more expensive than tent-and-donkey cart training camps.

Fourth, the Prime Minister could tell Indian troops to target the Pakistan Army along the LoC, using artillery and infantry — a task aided by the fact that its defences along stretches of the Neelam valley have been degraded by troops having to be moved to fight the Tehreek-e-Taliban elsewhere. The fighting that will follow though will make it more difficult to secure the LoC against jihadist infiltration — leading to heightened violence in Kashmir.

Mr. Modi could, finally, authorise the use of covert means, like bomb-for-bomb strikes or targeted assassination of jihadist leaders. Mr. Modi’s intelligence services, though, don’t have this arrow in their quiver — and it will be a while, most experts say, before they can acquire it.

Every sane person should hope Mr. Modi will never be required to exercise any of his military options — but thinking through war is just as important as talking peace.

The Army-Islamist axis
Less than a week after the 26/11 strikes, Lieutenant General Shuja Pasha, the ISI chief, briefed a small Pakistani group off the record. He described Tehreek-e-Taliban commander Mullah Fazlullah — the architect of the Karachi strike — as a “true patriot.” Earlier, in April 2004, Taliban commander Nek Muhammad Wazir stood next to XI corps commander Syed Safdar Husain, promising that, in a war with India, he would be “Pakistan’s atomic bomb.” The generals weren’t crazy; for Pakistan’s Army, mired in a losing war against the jihadists it once nurtured, hostilities with India offer the sole hope of repairing its relationship with the jihadists.

Pakistani military commanders know their on-off war against jihadists has no hope of glorious victory: their resources are too thin, and many in their own ranks are sympathetic to the enemy. India is the enemy they need to restore their legitimacy as the Praetorian Guard of the national project. In the face of threats from an existential adversary, their enemies would be compelled to fall in line.

It is no coincidence that the Lashkar was authorised to carry out 26/11 just as Gen. Pervez Kayani became army chief, and set about undoing the damage his predecessor had inflicted by taking on the jihadists. Gen. Raheel Sharif, his reluctant offensive in North Waziristan already flailing, will find a crisis to the east to be a relief.

Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif may wish to build a durable relationship with India, but he is no position to defy the generals. He is beholden, moreover, to Islamists who aided his election.

Less than six weeks before 26/11, it is mostly forgotten, Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari imagined “Pakistani cement factories being constructed to provide for India’s huge infrastructure needs, Pakistani textile mills meeting Indian demand for blue jeans, Pakistani ports being used to relieve the congestion at Indian ones.” Even as Mr. Vajpayee and Mr. Sharif signed the Lahore Declaration in 1999, we now know, Pakistani troops were being trained to push their way across the LoC.

The truth, as Pakistani defence analyst Ayesha Siddiqa has noted, is that Pakistan’s “democratic transition does not mean the army is ready to surrender its control over security and foreign policies.”

New Delhi has long hoped that engaging Pakistan’s democratic leadership will catalyse that transformation. It has absorbed the blows dished out by the Army, hoping things will eventually change. Doing nothing, though, has proved both politically unsustainable and strategically ineffectual.

From Jawaharlal Nehru on, every Indian Prime Minister has faced this impossible challenge: how to punish the Pakistan Army’s sponsorship of terrorism, but ensure victory doesn’t come at a price the country cannot afford. Prime Minister Indira Gandhi, who ripped Pakistan in two, lost her life to the ISI-backed insurgency in Punjab.

Now that the roseate glow of his inaugural has subsided, Mr. Modi needs to listen to his advisers, and think through the prospects — and costs — of war. The future of a subcontinent will depend on the choices he makes.

Talking to Pakistan in its language - The Hindu




The post-NATO war has started


M J Akbar


And it will not be limited to South Asia



A shadow war does not begin with an ultimatum. It is conducted by militias, not a military. It is not fought in the name of a nation or under conventions signed at Geneva; it uses barbarism and terrorism in the pursuit of ideas that seek to destroy the existing order in the search of some fantasy. Its violence spreads across dozens of geographical dots that, in the terrorist’s mind, will connect and form a picture some day.

The opening offensive of the post-NATO era in south and central Asia has been launched. It is entirely logical that this should coincide with US President Barack Obama’s speech to graduating cadets of United States Military Academy, West Point, where he told the class of 2014 that they would be the first batch since 9/11 which would not have to go to war in either Afghanistan or Iraq. The message has been heard loud and clear by those who have been fighting much before 9/11 and will continue long after American troops (although hopefully not America) have abandoned the field.

Who are they? They are best described as Taliban Plus, an alliance of different Taliban groups and ideological compatriots like Lashkar-e-Taiba as well as individuals and officials who share such objectives but feel that they are more useful to the cause without the advertisement of a label.

India is a primary enemy, and our mission in Herat was a first target. The objective was not mayhem for the sake of mayhem. The attack was designed for greater psychological impact. One clue is in the timing. The aim was to hold Indian diplomats and other staff hostage, and negotiate with Delhi for their lives, at precisely the moment when Delhi was going through a significant transition in government. Imagine the challenge to India and the test for Narendra Modi, who had campaigned on a tough approach towards terrorism, if Indians were being killed, one at a time, while he was taking his oath of office.

Consider the permutations and combinations of behaviour within regional governments. How many Saarc leaders could have, or would have, come, assuming that Modi still wanted to send out invitations? Think about the rage in Indian public opinion, doubtless doubled by some gloating from Pakistani hawks who find such a regular platform on Indian television channels. Would the jangling of raw nerves have led to street violence in our country? We do not know the answers but the questions should certainly be in the thoughts of India’s security leaders.



One wonders why this very obvious reality does not cure many Pakistanis of their schizophrenia. They are hugely mistaken if they think that Hafiz Saeed and his colleagues only have an agenda for India. They have an agenda for Pakistan as well; and while they will not be able to change India they have a fair shot at turning Pakistan into a theocracy.



It is fortunate that Prime Minister Modi has chosen Ajit Doval as his National Security Adviser. Ajit Doval has been a hero of our intelligence services and seen how the same hostile forces tested the Atal Behari Vajpayee government with the hijacking of a plane that ended up in Kandahar. Herat failed thanks to the valour of our paramilitary troops, but we can be absolutely sure that the Modi government will be tested again, and sooner rather than later.

The terrorist war against India has three obvious dimensions. Taliban Plus views the presence of India in Afghanistan, even within the confines of diplomatic activity or the larger embrace of developmental projects, as a form of “malignant intrusion” into “Islamic space” no less reprehensible than the Soviet or American intervention. For those who drove out the Soviets and NATO, India must seem like a pushover.

It does not take any extra insight to note that this position would be backed, vocally or discreetly, by the majority of Pakistanis. Those who need evidence can check out TV panel discussions.

The second target is the Kashmir valley of course. There was an upsurge in violence after the establishment of the Taliban government in Kabul, which in turn was largely due to the presence and leadership provided to the Taliban by Pak military officers. When the Americans launched their war in Afghanistan, Islamabad sought and obtained time to bring back its soldiers and officers from Taliban ranks.

The third dimension is destabilisation of India’s secular democracy, which is an attractive alternative, particularly for the young, to the theocratic model offered by Taliban Plus. One wonders why this very obvious reality does not cure many Pakistanis of their schizophrenia. They are hugely mistaken if they think that Hafiz Saeed and his colleagues only have an agenda for India. They have an agenda for Pakistan as well; and while they will not be able to change India they have a fair shot at turning Pakistan into a theocracy.

But this post-NATO war will not stop at South Asia; it will draw in China and central Asian “stans” as well. China is beginning to sense the scope of this threat, but the Chinese take their time over any change in policy. Facts will engineer this change. There just might come a moment when, acting out of their separate national interests, India and China find themselves on the same side of a complicated battlefield.

The post-NATO war has started | Pakistan Today
 
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Less than a week after the 26/11 strikes, Lieutenant General Shuja Pasha, the ISI chief, briefed a small Pakistani group off the record. He described Tehreek-e-Taliban commander Mullah Fazlullah — the architect of the Karachi strike — as a “true patriot.” Earlier, in April 2004, Taliban commander Nek Muhammad Wazir stood next to XI corps commander Syed Safdar Husain, promising that, in a war with India, he would be “Pakistan’s atomic bomb.” The generals weren’t crazy; for Pakistan’s Army, mired in a losing war against the jihadists it once nurtured, hostilities with India offer the sole hope of repairing its relationship with the jihadists.

And RAW and India is blamed for the attack on Karachi........
 
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BY PDF posters not by Govt of Pakistan or any Pakistani official unlike Indians who blame ISI of even Modi's moli farts

I saw a thread here which is made based on statement from rangers and Yes the post i was made is towards the PDF posters only....... Modi blaming pakistan????????????? Not yet..... Havent seen anything yet......
 
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And RAW and India is blamed for the attack on Karachi........

Indian Made ‘Factor-8’ injections recovered at Karachi airport legally Exported to Pakistan
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In a Major Embarrassment to Pakistani Military Establishment , Factor-8 injections which were found on the dead terrorist who attacked Karachi Airport turned out to be Legally exported Drug by Major Indian Pharma Cipla which was available easily in Pakistan.
Some Pakistani Military officials had told Pakistani media that Indian army uses Factor-8 injections in frontline combats and these injections are not available in markets. Officials said that these injections are believed to be used for stopping bleeding from injuries.
Pakistani Media was quick to suspect Indian involvement in the attack on Karachi Airport but it was later found out that it was legally imported & marketed by AJ Mirza Pharma (Pvt) Ltd which is a Karachi based distributor in Pakistan. AJ Mirza Pharma are the representatives of Cipla in Pakistan and have legally imported this drugs in Pakistani market .
 
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Mr. Modi could, finally, authorise the use of covert means, like bomb-for-bomb strikes or targeted assassination of jihadistleaders. Mr. Modi’s intelligence services, though, don’t have this arrow in their quiver — and it will be a while, most experts say, before they can acquire it.

this is the option , but only one if India goes at it 1st and not waits for a 26/11 like attack again.

My off the cuff advice- get with the Israelis on training and executing such actions
 
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Indian Made ‘Factor-8’ injections recovered at Karachi airport legally Exported to Pakistan
3cl7HFc.jpg

In a Major Embarrassment to Pakistani Military Establishment , Factor-8 injections which were found on the dead terrorist who attacked Karachi Airport turned out to be Legally exported Drug by Major Indian Pharma Cipla which was available easily in Pakistan.
Some Pakistani Military officials had told Pakistani media that Indian army uses Factor-8 injections in frontline combats and these injections are not available in markets. Officials said that these injections are believed to be used for stopping bleeding from injuries.
Pakistani Media was quick to suspect Indian involvement in the attack on Karachi Airport but it was later found out that it was legally imported & marketed by AJ Mirza Pharma (Pvt) Ltd which is a Karachi based distributor in Pakistan. AJ Mirza Pharma are the representatives of Cipla in Pakistan and have legally imported this drugs in Pakistani market .

why major embarrassment for military ? they did not blame it on you :)


and which military official said that ? can you quote his exact words here ?

i dint read

this is the option , but only one if India goes at it 1st and not waits for a 26/11 like attack again.

My off the cuff advice- get with the Israelis on training and executing such actions

We reserve the right to strike back :)

and that wont be TERRORISM.
 
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Indian Made ‘Factor-8’ injections recovered at Karachi airport legally Exported to Pakistan
3cl7HFc.jpg

In a Major Embarrassment to Pakistani Military Establishment , Factor-8 injections which were found on the dead terrorist who attacked Karachi Airport turned out to be Legally exported Drug by Major Indian Pharma Cipla which was available easily in Pakistan.
Some Pakistani Military officials had told Pakistani media that Indian army uses Factor-8 injections in frontline combats and these injections are not available in markets. Officials said that these injections are believed to be used for stopping bleeding from injuries.
Pakistani Media was quick to suspect Indian involvement in the attack on Karachi Airport but it was later found out that it was legally imported & marketed by AJ Mirza Pharma (Pvt) Ltd which is a Karachi based distributor in Pakistan. AJ Mirza Pharma are the representatives of Cipla in Pakistan and have legally imported this drugs in Pakistani market .

Where did you get this news from?

By the way the Pakistan military never said India involved.... All they said was "They found Indian made Medicine with the militants" and left the entire population and their strategic asset (aka HS sahib) to make their own guesses...... Their media picked it up and started running stories........ So who is to be blamed????
 
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Where did you get this news from?

Indian Made ‘Factor-8’ injections recovered at Karachi airport legally Exported to Pakistan | idrw.org

:::AJM PHARMA, Paksitan:::

A.J Mirza Pharma is the new Pharma Division and a subsidiary of A.J Mirza & Company Karachi. The new company derives its strength fromCIPLA LIMITED, Mumbai,the largest Pharmaceutical Company of India. AJ Mirza Pharma are the representatives of Cipla in Pakistan for all the services and materials offered by this great company. Cipla offers to the world a wide range of over 1200 formulations or prescription items, over 150 Active Pharmaceutical Ingredients or basic raw materials and over 100 intermediates to the Pharma industry in India and in Europe, North and South America and as well in Asia.
 
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We reserve the right to strike back :)

and that wont be TERRORISM.

sure you reserve any right you deem proper to strike back if India kills only terrorists in your country... I am sure India or the world would not expect anything less given the protection you afford them
 
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Indian people talking stupid as usual-
They dont have the guts to strike inside Pakistan-
If they had they would have at least tried-

PDF indians are a weird breed tbh-

sure you reserve any right you deem proper to strike back if India kills only terrorists in your country... I am sure India or the world would not expect anything less given the protection you afford them

Maybe be we will reply back in kind by killing the biggest terrorist you have- Modi-
 
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