Taliban vs Pak Army

[TURK-SAT]

Their biggest advantage is the terrain.The just dissolve into it.As pointed above their strategy is Hit and Run.There is so vast area where they can move.The problem with Army is,it moves in convoys and is spotted.
Its not the problem only with Taliban.In Iraq there are no Taliban and the most advanced nation of the world ie,US is defeated there.

enter the cave with one shot guerrilla warfare can not be won unless the remote .. American army is a coward. pkk turkey or burgundy beret special teams against the destroyer caught oluşturmuştur.iz time. Turkish army is the only effective guerrilla army in the world. My pictures will be here soon ..

 

[MastanKhan]

Their biggest advantage is the terrain.The just dissolve into it.As pointed above their strategy is Hit and Run.There is so vast area where they can move.The problem with Army is,it moves in convoys and is spotted.
Its not the problem only with Taliban.In Iraq there are no Taliban and the most advanced nation of the world ie,US is defeated there.

Hi,

The U S has done what it wanted to do in iraq---destroy a nation---is this any kind of victory for the iraqis---. The americans destroy and then they leave---and then the locals call it a victory

 

[BATMAN]

Is that true though SMC? Is it true that we don't know how to deal with it? Do you think the Lankan know how to deal with it? and Who advised them how to deal with it?

In Lanka there was a political unanimity - in Pakistan, alas...

Lanka is not same geography as Pakistan.
Lanka does not have open borders as Pakistan have.
Lanka is not feared as much as evil states fear Pakistan.
In Lanka black water and US embassy did not got involved.
In Lanka foreign ministry did not hided evidence of foreign support to TT.

TTP was organised and is operated by foreign state so is our puppet regime.

 

[U-571]

If noticed something about these terrorists they are just a bunch of people who carry Ak-47's RPG-2's or any other RPG, have a belt of plastic explosives on it and just know the landscape very well so I would like to ask why is it so hard to defeat them and by the way im Pakistani and I dont want to make anyone angry by questioning the Pak army.

because there is a lot more than what the CBN, NBC FOX, CNN and BBC feeds you f !!, its taliban time coming soon, just wait and see, pakistani army will then have to resolve to love them for their gains!!

 

[U-571]

enter the cave with one shot guerrilla warfare can not be won unless the remote .. American army is a coward. pkk turkey or burgundy beret special teams against the destroyer caught oluşturmuştur.iz time. Turkish army is the only effective guerrilla army in the world. My pictures will be here soon ..

do you use the damn google translator or what??

 

[Icarus]

because there is a lot more than what the CBN, NBC FOX, CNN and BBC feeds you f !!, its taliban time coming soon, just wait and see, pakistani army will then have to resolve to love them for their gains!!

What ? The Taliban's time is coming soon ? The Taliban have had their backs broken, their command and control structure has been devastated, they are in a position from where they can only carry out desperate attacks, they have lost all public sympathy in both Pakistan and Afghanistan, what in the world makes you think they will be coming ?

 

[Icarus]

Lanka is not same geography as Pakistan.

True

Lanka does not have open borders as Pakistan have.

True

Lanka is not feared as much as evil states fear Pakistan.

What do you mean by "Evil States" ?

In Lanka black water and US embassy did not got involved.

Take it from a man on ground, they aren't involved here as well.

In Lanka foreign ministry did not hided evidence of foreign support to TT.

They didn't hide anything here except what was required in respect to national interests.

TTP was organised and is operated by foreign state so is our puppet regime.

TTP does have forgien assistance but their biggest supply of recruits are our own madrassahs.

 

[GentlemanObserver]

Hi,

The U S has done what it wanted to do in iraq---destroy a nation---is this any kind of victory for the iraqis---. The americans destroy and then they leave---and then the locals call it a victory

Operation "NEW DAWN" LOL

 

[muse]

In some of our earlier pieces from last year, we had highlighted a need to "deprogram" religious radicals - perhaps the Pakistani authorities have begun to realize that it it is an important tool:




Re-strategising the anti-terror war
Dr Rashid Ahmad Khan


Pakistan has been waging a war against terrorism for the last nine years. Despite incurring huge losses of life and property, its efforts have often been subjected to severe criticism for lack of a comprehensive and coherent strategy, especially due to the absence of a legal framework defining the powers of the security forces engaged in operations against the terrorists, the legal status of terrorists who are captured and imprisoned, the laws under which they are to be tried for various crimes, and outlining long-term plans for their de-radicalisation and rehabilitation. The need for such a framework and a comprehensive strategy had been felt since an increase in countrywide terrorist acts, especially suicide attacks, and launch of military operations in the tribal areas during the last six years. These operations led to the capture of hundreds of militants. All of them are languishing in jails as the government does not have a proper legal framework to try and punish them. The provisions of the Anti-Terror Act, 2004 are inadequate to deal with them effectively.

To meet this need, the federal government, last month, presented in the Senate new anti-terror legislation, known as the Anti-Terrorism Act (ATA) Amendment Bill, 2010. The new bill proposes to introduce amendments or add new provisions to the ATA, 2004, which was evolved through a series of amendments from the 1997 Anti-Terrorism Act. The amendments in existing anti-terrorism laws have been proposed after taking cognisance of the strategy and tactics employed by terrorist organisations to carry out their malicious activities in the country.

For example, in January 2002, a number of extremist and terrorist organisations were banned. But these organisations managed to operate under new names, retaining arms and weapons and maintaining their infrastructure, training camps and recruitment centres. This happened right under the vigilant eye of the state authorities. Their members were able to move freely in and out of the country, forging inter-provincial and trans-national linkages. Under the laws proposed in the new bill, no banned organisation will be allowed to operate under new nomenclature. They will also not be allowed to run any subsidiary organisation with activities similar to those of the banned organisations. The members of the proscribed organisations will neither be able to obtain passports nor allowed to travel abroad. No bank or financial institution will provide them financial assistance, loans or cards.

Under the proposed bill, the scope of the definition of terrorism and terrorist acts has also been expanded. Through proposed amendments in sub-section 6 of clause 2 of the 2004 Act, intimidating and terrorising the public, social sector, business community and attacking or preparing to attack civilians, government officials, installations, security forces or law enforcing agencies have also been declared as acts of terrorism. Through another amendment, any person possessing illegal explosive material or having illegal links with the explosives will also be included in the ambit of terrorism.

The bill proposes to enhance the powers of the law enforcement agencies to apprehend, investigate and imprison those accused of carrying out terrorist acts. Under the existing law, the term of punishment for a person found guilty of a terrorist act is seven years in jail. The proposed bill recommends it be enhanced to 10 years. The police will be authorised to summon any person during the investigation process. In order to prevent the release of the accused on bail, an amendment in the ATA, 2004 under the proposed bill, will deny the grant of bail by any court to a person found involved in a terrorist act.

The proposed legislation arms the security forces with vast powers to detain and investigate persons found involved in terrorism. The government will be empowered to issue orders for preventive detention for 90 days to conduct investigations against an accused with a previous record of involvement in activities covered by the proposed bill, or in case a reasonable complaint has been lodged or credible information or evidence has been received about their involvement in terrorist activities. Justifying these stringent measures, the Interior Minister, Rehman Malik, said the bill was needed to crush terrorists, whose attacks were adversely affecting security in the country.

The proposed bill is no doubt a big improvement on the existing anti-terrorism laws in the country, which have miserably failed to act as a deterrent. But this alone cannot meet the requirements of a comprehensive and coherent strategy. Terrorism is not a legal problem or merely an issue of law and order. It is basically a political problem requiring a political approach to solve it. The legal framework suggested under the new bill is just one dimension of this approach. The other elements of this approach ought to take into account many aspects. There should be political ownership and political control over the war against terrorism as war is too serious a business to be left to the generals only. Building a national consensus on the nature and challenges posed by extremism and terrorism is vital; there ought to be a clear statement on the policy and long-term goals of the war against terrorism, removing confusion in the minds of the people caused by inconsistent and contradictory statements by the government. A programme for de-radicalisation and rehabilitation of the young people imprisoned during the military operations is paramount. Such programmes have been initiated and have met considerable success in Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Malaysia and Bangladesh.

Last, and most importantly, the PPP must fulfil its commitment made by Benazir Bhutto, under the party manifesto for the 2008 elections and announced on Independence Day by President Asif Ali Zardari last year, to introduce political reforms in FATA. Almost all political parties and civil society organisations in the country favour the extension of the Political Parties Act to the tribal areas. The enthusiasm with which the men and women in the tribal areas welcomed the introduction of universal adult franchise in 1996 provides sufficient ground for initiating, without any further delay, political reforms in the region, where only security considerations have determined the shape and functions of politico-administrative structures. Political reforms in the tribal areas will also be helpful in the war against militants as they would provide greater transparency in the war against terrorism, solve the issue of its political ownership and ensure Pakistan-Afghanistan border security.

The writer is a professor of International Relations at Sargodha University. He can be reached at rashid_khan192@yahoo.com

 

[muse]

A not too delicate editorial - but one I am sure readers will want GHQ to be responsive to. US duplicity has complicated the fight against the Talib, while US exorts Pakistan to fight the Talib, it goes behind it's back and enlists Saudi help to secure a peace with the Talib - and this leaves many unanswered questions for Pakistanis, that only the Fauj can provide answers to:



Back in the news
Dawn Editorial



Monday, 30 Aug, 2010

Signs of trouble re-emerge in South Waziristan Like a recurring nightmare, South Waziristan is creeping back into the news once again. But each time the situation in the area seems to grow murkier.


Now, a militant commander belonging to a sub-tribe of the Ahmadzai Wazirs has demanded that the Mehsuds leave the Wana area, presumably because Mehsud militants are being held responsible for the recent assassination of Maulana Noor Muhammad. Beyond that little is clear. Is the Ahmadzai commander acting at the behest of Maulvi Nazir, the kingpin of the area, or does it mark some kind of rift inside the Nazir group? What threat do the Mehsud militants pose anyway in the area? There are ambushes and other attacks against security forces in the area, but security officials are suggesting that the real threat is coming from different quarters — the so-called Punjabi Taliban who have taken refuge in the area. Why are the Punjabi Taliban a growing threat in the area? Could it be that pressure in North Waziristan is pushing them towards the Wana region? Little can be said with certainty.

The Punjabi Taliban came to the area several years ago but were initially treated as ‘good Taliban’, focused as they were on the battle in Afghanistan and having little interest in fighting the Pakistani state. Things started to get more complicated following a crackdown inside Pakistan against Maulana Masood Azhar’s Jaish-i-Mohammad a couple of years ago, sending Jaish cadres running to the area. The camaraderie between Maulvi Nazir and the Punjabi Taliban is yet another complicating factor, with the latter acting as the foot soldiers of the former and the former in the ‘can-do-business-with’ column of the Pakistani state. Given this complicated overlap and intertwining between these various strands of militant groups in South Waziristan, the Pakistani state has been reduced to a difficult tight-rope walk, having to calibrate its responses minutely in an attempt to maintain some semblance of control over the security situation there.

In the fight against militancy, tactics will necessarily be complicated and on occasion the state may be forced to choose between two unpalatable options. Yet, there is a persistent feeling that the security establishment here may be choosing the wrong strategy, opting to juggle the various militant groups and push the most extreme ones to the mountains of Fata in order to keep the cities safe. If the strategy is flawed, the tactics will not matter.

 

[SSGame]

I read in the newspaper that a sucuide bomber blew himself up in a MOSQUE. They call themselves muslims and are killing innocent muslims and blowing up mosques. This was another proof of their inhumanity and another way they kill people.

 

[muse]

All terrorist roads still lead to Pakistan - WHY???????? Pakistanis must take responsibility and provide an answer to this question, for their own security, for their own sake


The TTP & Operation ‘Samosa’

By Ali K Chishti

It has been reported from at least two Interior Ministry sources in Pakistan that the ministry is in a state of panic and, as one of the sources, who wanted to remain anonymous, confirmed to Daily Times, “We are currently in a state of panic. If the whole al Qaeda, Taliban, TTP, local jihadi organisations and floods were not enough, we are now under immense pressure to trace the links of the alleged bombers caught in Ontario, Canada.”

While the country’s media is busy commenting on the latest cricket betting scandal and floods, a whole new crisis, perhaps of the same intensity as the Faisal Shahzad one, is brewing within both the international community and Canada.

Daily Times, after intense investigations and a tip-off from a source, was able to talk to a leader of the TTP who’s been alleged by a certain Western diplomat of being the brains behind the would-be terrorist attacks in Canada. TTP spokesman Azam Tariq neither refused nor denied the statement, but instead opted to say, “We support anyone who would fight the infidels.”

The TTP also paid homage to Faisal Shahzad for his bold actions in the US and said he had rendered great sacrifices to uphold the sacred cause of Islam. America is not safe on its own land, Azam Tariq pointed out.

While intense investigations are underway both in Pakistan and Canada, intelligence officials in Pakistan are said to be focusing on a friend of Shahzad – Muhammad Rehan – who originally introduced Shahzad to the TTP. Hiva Alizadeh, 30, an Iranian of Kurdish descent, is believed to be the mastermind of the would-be terrorist plot.

Daily Times was the first publication to publish the role of a Pakistani intelligence agency in tipping off its Canadian counterparts, which helped the Canadians unearth the al Qaeda cell.