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American, French and Uk Withdrawal a Defeat or a Victory ?

In today's world there are NO victories. the only thing which should be taken into consideration is, if the aim for which they had long term planning has been achieved partly or fully or not.

keeping in view this thing i Personally feel that US had achieved the goal of inflicting damage on this region (Afghanistan and Pakistan) not only physically but above all they had succeeded in their many psyops. they had infiltrated our many opinion maker field/institutions and created a rift among public.

BUT again one thing is proven that their wrong war has once again been exposed
 
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OOO Jana Jana You know after hearing the troops full out news the basment of bhartis is burnning .. If USA is pulling out Troops that means Many bhartis are in danger.And many projects are in danger :O

Feel the Beat ....

Oh and divya yr other dp w more sexy then this one ;)
 
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Killing of OBL and destroying all the terrorist N/W. Moreover, destablizing Pakistan what you expect on their behalf Bro?

we had been destabilized in 80s too when first Afghan war was fought so its nothing new for us though this time one thing we had learn and that is what are other tools of destabilizing Pakistan in hands of our stinking enemies.
 
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Dear Readers,

Do not the scales of justice weigh against Taliban rule by fear, treatment of Afghans as subjects and not citizens, and terrorism? Do not the scales of justice weigh towards the great and free nation of Afghanistan with its representative government, with its brave security forces, and with its growing prosperity? The Afghan people have made clear that while they want peace, they do not wish a return to the brutal tyranny and fear that the Taliban brought to Afghanistan when they ruled, and we will always be a friend of Afghans resisting extremism and oppression.

Our troop withdrawal is a sign of Afghanistan’s strength and of Taliban weakness. The winter and spring campaigns conducted by Afghan, international and US forces have weakened the Taliban and made it possible for the US to, according to plan, withdraw on schedule by 2014. Afghan security forces are increasingly well trained and equipped to independently deal with the Taliban and other terrorists in the region. As President Obama and Defense Secretary Gates said , our successful withdrawal “…will be based on conditions on the ground but at the same time... we have to build a fire under them, frankly, to get them to do the kind of recruitment, retention, training and so on for their forces that allow us to make this transition.” Our dedication to the Afghans remains intact, and our commitment to Afghanistan is long standing.

CDR Bill Speaks,
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command
 
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Dear Readers,

Do not the scales of justice weigh against Taliban rule by fear, treatment of Afghans as subjects and not citizens, and terrorism? Do not the scales of justice weigh towards the great and free nation of Afghanistan with its representative government, with its brave security forces, and with its growing prosperity? The Afghan people have made clear that while they want peace, they do not wish a return to the brutal tyranny and fear that the Taliban brought to Afghanistan when they ruled, and we will always be a friend of Afghans resisting extremism and oppression.

Our troop withdrawal is a sign of Afghanistan’s strength and of Taliban weakness.
The winter and spring campaigns conducted by Afghan, international and US forces have weakened the Taliban and made it possible for the US to, according to plan, withdraw on schedule by 2014. Afghan security forces are increasingly well trained and equipped to independently deal with the Taliban and other terrorists in the region. As President Obama and Defense Secretary Gates said , our successful withdrawal “…will be based on conditions on the ground but at the same time... we have to build a fire under them, frankly, to get them to do the kind of recruitment, retention, training and so on for their forces that allow us to make this transition.” Our dedication to the Afghans remains intact, and our commitment to Afghanistan is long standing.

CDR Bill Speaks,
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command

:) all catchy words used by all govts and institutions when making such statements or announcing such decisions., its kinda diplomatic language nothing to do with reality
 
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we had been destabilized in 80s too when first Afghan war was fought so its nothing new for us though this time one thing we had learn and that is what are other tools of destabilizing Pakistan in hands of our stinking enemies.

Getting somewhat off to the topic but a question striking in my mind:

Don't you feel that the relation that you are enjoying with China as same that you were having with US 2 decades back?
Also, don't you feel that it is another lacking independent foreign policy?
 
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Getting somewhat off to the topic but a question striking in my mind:

Don't you feel that the relation that you are enjoying with China as same that you were having with US 2 decades back?
Also, don't you feel that it is another lacking independent foreign policy?

can you be bit clear are you asking about US or China?

our relations with China were always different than US. so there is NO comparison between the two

As far as our foreign policy is concerned atleast as far as china is concerned we had been having quiet an independent one
 
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Dear Readers,

Do not the scales of justice weigh against Taliban rule by fear, treatment of Afghans as subjects and not citizens, and terrorism? Do not the scales of justice weigh towards the great and free nation of Afghanistan with its representative government, with its brave security forces, and with its growing prosperity? The Afghan people have made clear that while they want peace, they do not wish a return to the brutal tyranny and fear that the Taliban brought to Afghanistan when they ruled, and we will always be a friend of Afghans resisting extremism and oppression.

Our troop withdrawal is a sign of Afghanistan’s strength and of Taliban weakness. The winter and spring campaigns conducted by Afghan, international and US forces have weakened the Taliban and made it possible for the US to, according to plan, withdraw on schedule by 2014. Afghan security forces are increasingly well trained and equipped to independently deal with the Taliban and other terrorists in the region. As President Obama and Defense Secretary Gates said , our successful withdrawal “…will be based on conditions on the ground but at the same time... we have to build a fire under them, frankly, to get them to do the kind of recruitment, retention, training and so on for their forces that allow us to make this transition.” Our dedication to the Afghans remains intact, and our commitment to Afghanistan is long standing.

CDR Bill Speaks,
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command

I know you guys won't leave . I bet Centy bhai is having a good time looking at the jubilant Pakistanis and laughing to himself.
 
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Finally someone accepts that you guys are taliban supporters. May some day TTP come to power so that you realize what you guys supported and wished for the Afghans.

Some people really make me feel that they should actually be governed by Taliban. They are their best solution.

No we don't support ttp, get bent!
We supported them? since when? don't get talibs and mujahideen mixed up.
 
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Lol, you? Meaning Pakistan? Lol, the drones will stay to show our love for you!

Push Pakistan far enough, and you may find yourself getting your a** handed to you in Afghanistan.
Another Vietnam is not so hard to do, We did it to the soviets.

what makes you think your above all that?
 
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