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Here's a bit more on the helicopter story from the Army Times-
Pakistani Helicopters in A-Stan
Nangahar province about fifteen to twenty kms from the border in two valleys called Agam Tengay and Wazir Tengay near the Tora Bora region a year ago last June.
All this is speculation fueled by NDS (Afghanistan's Nat'l Directorate of Security) and civilian reports eminating from a village called Tangay Kholl. Lt. Col. Chris Nash, U.S.M.C. deemed the reports credible. Others in the U.S. Army do not.
Lamb's comments seem borrowed from Sean Naylor's Army Times story from above. Naylor carries a very good reputation highlighted by his superb chronicling of Operation Anaconda in his book- Not A Good Day To Die.
KASRKIN REPLY-
"Hey American soldier S-2 dude...I think more highly of NATO than that, they care for their men and certainly about the mission, certainly enough to know that if someone is working against them, that someone should be called out at the very least."
Read the article by Naylor and then explain the denials by U.S. Army types-
"Retired Army Lt. Gen. David Barno, senior U.S. commander in Afghanistan from November 2003 to May 2005, said he “would have been absolutely astounded” had the Pakistanis attempted to resupply the Taliban by helicopter during his tenure in command, which ended in May 2005. “Nothing remotely like that occurred,” he said.
A field-grade Army officer with recent experience in eastern Afghanistan was also surprised by Nash’s claim.
“I never saw or heard of an ISI helicopter resupplying the enemy inside Afghanistan,” he said. “I just didn’t. It doesn’t match any of my knowledge of that area.”
Another Army officer, currently stationed in eastern Afghanistan, also said he had never heard of any cross-border Pakistani helicopter flights to support the Taliban."
The quoted source carries authority but has been out of the area of operations since 2005. Much has changed since then. Unattributed sources always bother me. Two Army guys are thus. Nash isn't. Instead, he's attached his name to this story. Who's credibility is more on the line?
Again, nobody knows what goes on out there for certain. Nobody. Not even the guys who are there. Makes for fun reading though and nobody enjoys a good story like those of us at this board.
Pakistani Helicopters in A-Stan
Nangahar province about fifteen to twenty kms from the border in two valleys called Agam Tengay and Wazir Tengay near the Tora Bora region a year ago last June.
All this is speculation fueled by NDS (Afghanistan's Nat'l Directorate of Security) and civilian reports eminating from a village called Tangay Kholl. Lt. Col. Chris Nash, U.S.M.C. deemed the reports credible. Others in the U.S. Army do not.
Lamb's comments seem borrowed from Sean Naylor's Army Times story from above. Naylor carries a very good reputation highlighted by his superb chronicling of Operation Anaconda in his book- Not A Good Day To Die.
KASRKIN REPLY-
"Hey American soldier S-2 dude...I think more highly of NATO than that, they care for their men and certainly about the mission, certainly enough to know that if someone is working against them, that someone should be called out at the very least."
Read the article by Naylor and then explain the denials by U.S. Army types-
"Retired Army Lt. Gen. David Barno, senior U.S. commander in Afghanistan from November 2003 to May 2005, said he “would have been absolutely astounded” had the Pakistanis attempted to resupply the Taliban by helicopter during his tenure in command, which ended in May 2005. “Nothing remotely like that occurred,” he said.
A field-grade Army officer with recent experience in eastern Afghanistan was also surprised by Nash’s claim.
“I never saw or heard of an ISI helicopter resupplying the enemy inside Afghanistan,” he said. “I just didn’t. It doesn’t match any of my knowledge of that area.”
Another Army officer, currently stationed in eastern Afghanistan, also said he had never heard of any cross-border Pakistani helicopter flights to support the Taliban."
The quoted source carries authority but has been out of the area of operations since 2005. Much has changed since then. Unattributed sources always bother me. Two Army guys are thus. Nash isn't. Instead, he's attached his name to this story. Who's credibility is more on the line?
Again, nobody knows what goes on out there for certain. Nobody. Not even the guys who are there. Makes for fun reading though and nobody enjoys a good story like those of us at this board.
