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Taliban Leader in Secret Talks Was an Impostor

Yar yeh america walay itnay he ullo kay pathay hain kia , ya sirf show kartay hain kay in ke silahitain kitne hain ,puri dunya ko wakht dala hova hay oor a banda in ko chona laga gaya oor in ko pata nahi chala .....lolz.
 
It shows how capable is CIA (Dont forget WMD episode in Iraq). that is how US is waging war!

They should put blame on ISI now for faking Mullah Mansoor and Zardari for getting some extra bucks from the USA.
 
in this kind of economy.............learn from this guy........how to make money
 
Nov. 23) -- For months, NATO helicopters ferried a man believed to be one of the Taliban's most senior commanders back and forth from Pakistan to Kabul for secret talks with Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

The bearded, turbaned man identified himself as Mullah Akhtar Mohammad Mansour and engaged in high-level secret talks with Karzai and his aides on at least three occasions, showing keen insight into Afghanistan's politics. His willingness to negotiate on behalf of the reclusive, dangerous Taliban was heralded by everyone from Karzai to Gen. David Petraeus as one of the most hopeful signs that peace could finally come to Afghanistan.

But they were all duped, apparently.

In a bizarre twist straight out of a spy novel, it appears the man everyone thought was Mansour was actually an impostor -- a lowly shopkeeper from the Pakistani city of Quetta. The revelation has dashed hopes for fruitful peace talks, flooded NATO and Afghan officials with embarrassment and reeled everyone back to square one.

"It's not him," an unidentified Western diplomat told The New York Times. "And we gave him a lot of money."

Accounts also appear in The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal.

Serious doubts about Mansour's identity arose after his third trip to Kabul, when an Afghan official who had known him years ago said he didn't recognize him, the Times reported. Afghan officials told the Post they showed photos of the man at the talks to other Afghans who knew Mansour and confirmed it wasn't him.

American officials also told the Times they have concluded the man wasn't Mansour, though they didn't say how they confirmed it, through fingerprints or other evidence.

It's unclear who sent the man to pose as Mansour and what their motive is. Afghan officials told the Post he could have been sent by Pakistan's intelligence service to test the waters and see what the Afghan government is offering in exchange for peace. Other officials say he could have been a simple bandit trying to collect money, or that he was a lower-level Taliban official posing as his chief.

The Post quoted two senior Afghan officials as saying the man is a shopkeeper from Quetta.

Whatever his real identity and motive, the man's brazen maneuver underscores the difficulty in verifying the identities of secretive Taliban leaders, infamous for their reclusiveness and low-tech way of life. Often bearded, turbaned and bespectacled, many have been living in mountains on the Pakistan-Afghan border for decades, unseen by the West. No known photographs of them exist.

It could be why Osama bin Laden has eluded capture for so long as well.

The case of mistaken identity has proved to be a bit of an embarrassment for Karzai, who allowed the man to be escorted into his presidential palace for face-to-face meetings. The Afghan president has forged ahead with high-level, secretive talks with the Taliban despite some initial skepticism from Washington. The realization that he may have been duped means Karzai risks losing face.

Karzai told a news conference today that he never met with Mansour, but didn't say whether he may have met with an impostor, The Associated Press reported. Overall reports about the meeting are not acceptable, he said cryptically without elaborating.
n the end, the revelation about Mansour's identity represents a setback for Karzai's peace efforts, negating any progress the Afghan government believed it was making in talks with Taliban leaders. Mansour's presence was one of the things Afghans believed showed promise about the talks.

As recently as last month, Petraeus, the top U.S. commander for Afghanistan, heralded Taliban leaders' willingness to negotiate as a sign of progress, though he didn't single out Mansour by name. American troops and their NATO allies helped facilitate the talks, flying Taliban figures on NATO aircraft and securing Afghan roads for their safe passage.

NATO refused to comment publicly today on reports about the apparent impostor, the BBC reported.
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ISI to nato

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If they are going to blame us for every thing we might as well start to take credit, atleast it will increase our repo as some bad@##

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HA HA HA HA HA

I just can't stop laughing.

This is the master stroke from ISI. I am 100% sure this was a man planted by ISI to keep an eye the "internal" matters and just keep them going round in circles. We remember also what happened when some Taliban leaders tried to by-pass ISI (mullah bradar was 'caught' from Karachi).

US or NATO ko cheh bana dia hey.
HA HA HA HA.

Lutf a gya hey
 
yes and it is the same kind of people duping nato when they talk about key taliban commanders and obl hiding in quetta!

CIA is the biggest chutia in this complicated game plan of ISI!
 
title should have been imposter fools NATO :rofl::rofl: not karzi ,karzi is just a puppet .so much for there intel :rofl:you just cant but laugh at these nato fools .
 
I wonder if the US ever thought of keeping Pakistan in the loop with this guy they were secretly negotiating with, and if so, then why the F*** did both the CIA and ISI not monitor his movements during before and after the meetings..............
 
US and NATO may be good in High-tech war but in this "Low-tech" maneuverability, ISI has no match.

This is not only embarrassing, it will hit the morale of the troops as well.

These so called talks were part of their exit strategy and now they suddenly wake up on one fine morning to find out that they were running after shadows (how many many more shadows are deceiving them - they don't know).

This is bad, MAN, this is real BAD.
 
Alot of money has been pocketed by people by providing false information for US drone attacks.

Innocent people are being killed in FATA Pakistan and you see western media coming up with BS claims of killing high profile al-qaeda members.

anyway that is totally different topic.


BUT in this case of talks the claim by US/Afghan govt is a big lie to cover up their hypocritical attempt of dodging Pakistan and holding talks with non-players and not those fighters who has more control over Afghan areas.

The attempts fall flat on face. There is NO long lasting solution without taking Pakistan onboard.

Isnt ISI co-ordinating with NATO in Drone Strikes?

As far as I know, the CIA's role has been severly limited as far as intel is concerned within Pakistan.

So if you claim innocents are being killed due to fake information, isnt the ISI a big part of this?

In fact, isnt it also a fact that many Taliban killings as a result of the Drone strikes have actually been credited to the Pak army to avoid local backlash?
So it seems that the PA and ISI are well aware of these Drone strikes and allow it to continue even though they are false leads?.....as per your claim
Can you clarify what you mean by the bolded then?
 
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I just wish John McCain comment on this news or similar as it will be very fruitful.
 
Nov. 23) -- For months, NATO helicopters ferried a man believed to be one of the Taliban's most senior commanders back and forth from Pakistan to Kabul for secret talks with Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

The bearded, turbaned man identified himself as Mullah Akhtar Mohammad Mansour and engaged in high-level secret talks with Karzai and his aides on at least three occasions, showing keen insight into Afghanistan's politics. His willingness to negotiate on behalf of the reclusive, dangerous Taliban was heralded by everyone from Karzai to Gen. David Petraeus as one of the most hopeful signs that peace could finally come to Afghanistan.

But they were all duped, apparently.

In a bizarre twist straight out of a spy novel, it appears the man everyone thought was Mansour was actually an impostor -- a lowly shopkeeper from the Pakistani city of Quetta. The revelation has dashed hopes for fruitful peace talks, flooded NATO and Afghan officials with embarrassment and reeled everyone back to square one.

"It's not him," an unidentified Western diplomat told The New York Times. "And we gave him a lot of money."

Accounts also appear in The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal.

Serious doubts about Mansour's identity arose after his third trip to Kabul, when an Afghan official who had known him years ago said he didn't recognize him, the Times reported. Afghan officials told the Post they showed photos of the man at the talks to other Afghans who knew Mansour and confirmed it wasn't him.

American officials also told the Times they have concluded the man wasn't Mansour, though they didn't say how they confirmed it, through fingerprints or other evidence.

It's unclear who sent the man to pose as Mansour and what their motive is. Afghan officials told the Post he could have been sent by Pakistan's intelligence service to test the waters and see what the Afghan government is offering in exchange for peace. Other officials say he could have been a simple bandit trying to collect money, or that he was a lower-level Taliban official posing as his chief.

The Post quoted two senior Afghan officials as saying the man is a shopkeeper from Quetta.

Whatever his real identity and motive, the man's brazen maneuver underscores the difficulty in verifying the identities of secretive Taliban leaders, infamous for their reclusiveness and low-tech way of life. Often bearded, turbaned and bespectacled, many have been living in mountains on the Pakistan-Afghan border for decades, unseen by the West. No known photographs of them exist.

It could be why Osama bin Laden has eluded capture for so long as well.

The case of mistaken identity has proved to be a bit of an embarrassment for Karzai, who allowed the man to be escorted into his presidential palace for face-to-face meetings. The Afghan president has forged ahead with high-level, secretive talks with the Taliban despite some initial skepticism from Washington. The realization that he may have been duped means Karzai risks losing face.

Karzai told a news conference today that he never met with Mansour, but didn't say whether he may have met with an impostor, The Associated Press reported. Overall reports about the meeting are not acceptable, he said cryptically without elaborating.
n the end, the revelation about Mansour's identity represents a setback for Karzai's peace efforts, negating any progress the Afghan government believed it was making in talks with Taliban leaders. Mansour's presence was one of the things Afghans believed showed promise about the talks.

As recently as last month, Petraeus, the top U.S. commander for Afghanistan, heralded Taliban leaders' willingness to negotiate as a sign of progress, though he didn't single out Mansour by name. American troops and their NATO allies helped facilitate the talks, flying Taliban figures on NATO aircraft and securing Afghan roads for their safe passage.

NATO refused to comment publicly today on reports about the apparent impostor, the BBC reported.
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Look at the quote in the red font above.

This statement clearly indicates that who ever planted this man was very clear that there is a desperate need to end this war. Therefore, it will be easy to make them look like a fool.

If you guys remember an event from USSR in Afghanistan war - 20 years ago. At the juncture of this event (described later) USSR was desperate for a piece of victory for its troops. Therefore, the message was sent that 1200 mujahiddins want to lay down their arms as they are sick and tired of fighting. USSR agreed without giving a second thought as it would give them a moment of victory and tell the world that they are winning. 1200 mujahiddins came in a large ground and sat down with their rifles in front of them. As the Russian soldiers approached them they stood up and ran away firing at the soldiers. It is said that 300 Russian soldiers died on that day.

Now here again, US and NATO desperate for peace to move forward and single out Pakistan from the game. They did'nt give it a second thought that it can be a trick.

I think the next meeting between Gen. Kayani and Gen. David Petreaus will be interesting. The US General will now ask for help from Kayani becuase they are one and half year behind in their strategy. The US general also has to be answerable to his bosses.

Interesting, very interesting. Well done ISI.

 

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