Taliban Hold Open Meetings in Pakistan to Discuss Leadership

[MilSpec]

Taliban or no Taliban , we don't really care some factions among the Afghans have neutral stance towards Pakistan, we'll work with them , those who are in bed with the indian enemy , they'll be at the receiving end

Why? Afghanistan is a sovreign nation. Why should you dictate whom they ally with or not? We don't raise objections if pakistan ally's with china or some other nation. Who gave you the right to tell afghans who they can or cannot ally with.... And you claim India has Hegemonic designs...

Now you seem very concerned about human rights , how about removing martial law from Kashmir, which has been placed under armed forces special powers act , essentially martial law, for last 30 years

Surely you don't support martial law , do you ?

Yes absolutely, I am very concerned about human rights and it's violation. In kashmir there has no doubt been restrictions dues to AFSPA, but AFSPA was deployed in kashmir in last 30 years, think about what was the precursor for that? If there was no state sponsored militancy from pakistan's end there wouldn't have been a need for India to deploy AFSPA. Until Indian Army deems that there is no need for AFSPA, I support it should be in effect in every state that has risks f insurgency. Now as far as your comparison, Indian Military is not chopping of hands of thieves, stoning women or beating women for showing thier ankles through their burkha, any one with the wildest imagination drawing comparison between the two has gone off the far end.

 

[Sine Nomine]

No , Not just Indian but "logic" dictates that Mullah omar's "TALIBAN", one of the most draconian system imposed upon Afghanistan, with one of the most horrible human rights and civil liberties record, and a breeding ground for terrorists from around the world - "Bad"..... So much so anything that's not Taliban - is good by the set benchmark of talibn that you deem "allied" to Pakistan. Hope that clarifies my position on Taliban.

What they did was not even near to that...
dashte laila massacre

 

[MilSpec]

What they did was not even near to that...
dashte laila massacre

is this the one where Dostums forces, fired on prisoner containers?

May be you haven't really heard why JiM soldiers did what they did to Taliban prisoners.
remember 1997, when Taliban Entered Mazar-e Sharif and went house to house and killed about 8000 hazaras... After removal of Abdul Malik Pehalwan from junbish-e-milli and return of Rashid Dostum, Hazaras commanders from mazar joined a predominantly uzbek junbishi.

dashte laila massacre - if not mistaken were the prisoners of qala-e-jangi fort, and three of the commanders of the Junbish were hzaras, 2 of them veteran dostum's uzbek commanders one out them was son of General Abdullah karim.

In 97 taliban suffocated hazaras in container, payback was un-evitable. Although a despicable act, I think context is necessary to know what happened and why it happened.

 

[Psychic]

Obviously you do that's why quoting me

I did so to clarify the misconceptions of Indian members.

 

[pakdefender]

is this the one where Dostums forces, fired on prisoner containers?

May be you haven't really heard why JiM soldiers did what they did to Taliban prisoners.
remember 1997, when Taliban Entered Mazar-e Sharif and went house to house and killed about 8000 hazaras... After removal of Abdul Malik Pehalwan from junbish-e-milli and return of Rashid Dostum, Hazaras commanders from mazar joined a predominantly uzbek junbishi.

dashte laila massacre - if not mistaken were the prisoners of qala-e-jangi fort, and three of the commanders of the Junbish were hzaras, 2 of them veteran dostum's uzbek commanders one out them was son of General Abdullah karim.

In 97 taliban suffocated hazaras in container, payback was un-evitable. Although a despicable act, I think context is necessary to know what happened and why it happened.

This is called Intellectual dishonesty fail

 

[MilSpec]

This is called Intellectual dishonesty fail

rather your lack of comprehension is amusing. Which I might add is an epidemic these days on the forum.
Apart from that dishonesty and fail is a double negative in this context... which defeats the purpose of your post.. if otherwise then - Thanks i guess!

 

[Psychic]

We don't raise objections if pakistan ally's with china or some other nation.

India raises objections over China-Pakistan Economic Corridor - The Express Tribune

India concerned over US arms for Pakistan - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

India expresses concern to France over military sales to Pakistan: The Hindu - Mobile edition

India conveys concern to China over presence in Azad Kashmir - NDTV

Just a few examples of how "India does not raise objections" when Pakistan allys with other nations.

 

[MilSpec]

India raises objections over China-Pakistan Economic Corridor - The Express Tribune

India concerned over US arms for Pakistan - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

India expresses concern to France over military sales to Pakistan: The Hindu - Mobile edition

India conveys concern to China over presence in *** - NDTV

Just a few examples of how "India does not raise objections" when Pakistan allys with other nations.

Context dear, context....

read again and post.

To simplify and drive comprehension (again) is, India is not asking pakistan not to ally with China, or US ot who ever, what they do is thier business, unlike what the other poster mentioned is "those who are in bed with the indian enemy , they'll be at the receiving end"...

India as due diligence will raise objections what it see's as incremental threat potential or against it's strategic interests to nations involved. That is due diligence.

 

[pakdefender]

Context dear, context....

read again and post.

To simplify and drive comprehension (again) is, India is not asking pakistan not to ally with China, or US ot who ever, what they do is thier business, unlike what the other poster mentioned is "those who are in bed with the indian enemy , they'll be at the receiving end"...

India as due diligence will raise objections what it see's as incremental threat potential or against it's strategic interests to nations involved. That is due diligence.

hahah ... this is epic munafqat

you people are compulsive perpetual liars

First you barfed about human rights then found yourself in a compromised position because of massacres done by warlords back by india , then your lie about india not making rona dhona about Pak-China co-operation got exposed, now again you are trying to weasel your way out of it.. FAIL!!!

 

[Psychic]

Indian Military is not chopping of hands of thieves, stoning women or beating women for showing thier ankles through their burkha, any one with the wildest imagination drawing comparison between the two has gone off the far end.

Ever been to Pakistan's tribal areas let alone Afghanistan? Brother this is the Wild West.
Their culture and traditions are different, every group had it's hands dirty.

There's a famous quote about Afghans, that is Afghans are either fighting foriegn invaders or fighting each other.
You people sure prefered civil war over 6 years of peace. During civil war, nobody's life, property or honor was safe in Afghanistan. Opium cultivation was at it's peak, different mujahid groups had their areas in which they had established checkposts where people were harassed, looted and at times their women were taken away. Thefts were at their peak. Kabul was a ruin and Najeeb was practically powerless. Perhaps this lawlessness looked like heaven to you guys and warlords and drug lords looked like angels to you. Taliban were no good but they were the only option Afghanistan had if Afghans wanted power hungry fighters off their backs.

Context dear, context....

read again and post.

To simplify and drive comprehension (again) is, India is not asking pakistan not to ally with China, or US ot who ever, what they do is thier business, unlike what the other poster mentioned is "those who are in bed with the indian enemy , they'll be at the receiving end"...

India as due diligence will raise objections what it see's as incremental threat potential or against it's strategic interests to nations involved. That is due diligence.

Pakistan never officially told Afghanistan what to do or who to ally with. At least I do not remember. Covert support to some groups does not count as many countries did that and do that throughout the history, all over the world. What some poster says on pdf is not official stance of GOP.

 

[illusion8]

How is Pakistan allow this to be hosted on their territory?

You haven't heard about quetta shurra and peshawar shurra? this isn't something new..taliban's operational base is pakistan.

 

[pakdefender]

You haven't heard about quetta shurra and peshawar shurra? this isn't something new..taliban's operational base is pakistan.

Kandahar and Helmand are heartland of Taliban but you rat catchers can't see beyond Pakistan , we know that

Taliban retakes town that British soldiers gave their lives defending | World | News | Daily Express

 

[illusion8]

Kandahar and Helmand are heartland of Taliban , you rat catchers can't see beyond Pakistan , we know that

Taliban retakes town that British soldiers gave their lives defending | World | News | Daily Express

reported & ignored

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

what are these talibs doing in Pakistan isn't there an operation going on to kill terrorists,or is it again good taliban and bad taliban.

How is Pakistan allow this to be hosted on their territory?

Because the Afghans, US, Pakistan and China all want to give talks a chance and therefore all sides are facilitating the travel of the leadership between Qatar, Afghanistan, Pakistan and China.

 

[A-Team]

there is nothing worthy to discuss something that had already saw many new developments. I mean this appointment and opposition well a lot more fresh development already took place.

BTW how are you

All good, starting my holidays this weekend