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Taliban faction claims French gunman trained in Pakistan.

China, Iran, need to start building Electric Fences and Mine the border, even Drones. it could get to the level where every country around pakistan starts to seal it borders and leaves pakistan sealed off.

Very difficult to do that, have you seen the terrain bordering most of Pakistan's neighbors. Except probably Iran. These difficult terrain makes it easy for these guys to infiltrate into other countries and also to go back.

P.S. Its also difficult for the Pakistani Rangers "even if they want to" to control their movement. Some secluded posts on the borders do not provide ample firepower to stop the terrorists from walking through.
 
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`Pakistani Taliban training French Muslims`
Dera Ismail Khan: Dozens of French Muslims are training with the Taliban in northwestern Pakistan, raising fears of future attacks following the shooting deaths of seven people in southern France allegedly by a man who spent time in the region, Pakistani intelligence officials said on Saturday.

Authorities are investigating whether Mohamed Merah, the Frenchman of Algerian descent who is suspected of killing three Jewish schoolchildren, a rabbi and three French paratroopers in Toulouse this month, was among the training group, the officials said.

Merah was killed in a dramatic gunfight with police on Thursday after a 32-hour standoff at his Toulouse apartment. The 23-year-old former auto body worker travelled twice to Afghanistan in 2010 and to Pakistan in 2011, and said he trained with al Qaeda in the Pakistani militant stronghold of Waziristan.

Approximately 85 Frenchmen have been training with the Pakistani Taliban in the North Waziristan tribal area for the past three years, according to the intelligence officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorised to talk to the media. Most of the men have dual nationality with France and North African countries.

The Frenchmen operate under the name Jihad-e-Islami and are being trained to use explosives and other weapons at camps near the town of Miran Shah and in the Datta Khel area, the officials said. They are led by a French commander who goes by the name Abu Tarek. Five of the men returned to France in January 2011 to find new recruits, according to the officials. It's unclear whether Merah was among that group.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy promised a crackdown on French citizens found to have trained in terror camps abroad.

"Anyone who goes abroad to follow ideological courses that lead to terrorism will be criminally punished. The response will be prison," he said in a campaign speech on Saturday.

A senior French official close to the investigation into the shootings told a news agency on Friday that despite Merah's claims of al Qaeda links, there was no sign he had "trained or been in contact with organised groups or jihadists”.

A militant commander, Ahmed Marwat, claimed in a phone call with the news agency on Saturday that Merah was affiliated with the Pakistani Taliban in Waziristan, but provided no details. Marwat said he was part of the Jundullah wing of the Pakistani Taliban.

The claim could not be independently verified.

The Pakistani Taliban, which is closely allied with al Qaeda, has carried out hundreds of attacks in Pakistan over the past several years that have killed thousands of people. Taliban leaders say they want to oust the US-backed government and install a hardline Islamist regime. They also have international jihadi ambitions and trained the Pakistani-American who tried to detonate a car bomb in New York City's Times Square in 2010.

The main sanctuary for the Pakistani Taliban is the restive tribal region along the Afghan border, especially North and South Waziristan. Despite a large military offensive in South Waziristan in 2009, the government has very little control over the area.

Western officials have been concerned for years about Muslim militants with European citizenship visiting northwestern Pakistan, possibly training for missions that could include terror attacks in Europe where they would act as "lone wolves" or on the orders of others. In 2010 alone, dozens were believed to be there.

Merah told police during the standoff that he was trained "by a single person" when he was in Waziristan, not in a training centre, so as not to be singled out because he spoke French," the director of the DCRI intelligence service, Bernard Squarcini, told the Le Monde newspaper.

Merah was questioned by French intelligence officers last November after his second trip to Afghanistan, and was cooperative and provided a USB key with tourist-like photos of his trip, the French official close to the investigation told the news agency.

While he was under surveillance last year, Merah was never seen contacting any radicals and went to nightclubs, not mosques, the official said. People who knew him confirmed that he was at a nightclub in recent weeks.

Merah told negotiators during the police standoff that he was able to buy a large arsenal of weapons thanks to years of petty theft, the official said.

French prosecutors said Merah filmed himself carrying out the three shooting attacks in Toulouse that began March 11.
 
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What kind of trolling when all this is been proven even China knows Uighurs train in pakistan, China shot a bunch of uighur militants that came from pakistan.

Pakistan has also deported many Uighurs that are involved in militancy at the request of China.

What is your point?
 
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Extremism in Pakistan comes with four things closely entangled together:- "Hate India, Hate America, Hate Israel and Hate Shias".
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so what did they get outof it
hate india: lost half land, economic development, and are struggling in anarchy
hate america: a kid cant hate dad as he gives u food and security to live, but also smashes u when u dont do homework.
hate isreal: bin bulaye mehman. isreal can wipe pak off in 2 hrs. their hate is worthless
hate shia: theiir internal issue.

i would say pakistan is a confused state who doesnt know how u progress.
 
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Extremism in Pakistan comes with four things closely entangled together:- "Hate India, Hate America, Hate Israel and Hate Shias".
QUOTE]

so what did they get outof it
hate india: lost half land, economic development, and are struggling in anarchy
hate america: a kid cant hate dad as he gives u food and security to live, but also smashes u when u dont do homework.
hate isreal: bin bulaye mehman. isreal can wipe pak off in 2 hrs. their hate is worthless
hate shia: theiir internal issue.

Indian circle jerk thread.
 
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Very difficult to do that, have you seen the terrain bordering most of Pakistan's neighbors. Except probably Iran. These difficult terrain makes it easy for these guys to infiltrate into other countries and also to go back.

P.S. Its also difficult for the Pakistani Rangers "even if they want to" to control their movement. Some secluded posts on the borders do not provide ample firepower to stop the terrorists from walking through.

Well the Biggest problem tends to be with India do to it's border , However Chinese-Pakistani Border on the chinese side is getting more troops and support. hope a solution for this can be found.

Pakistan has also deported many Uighurs that are involved in militancy at the request of China.

What is your point?

That some have been trained in pakistan and come into china, china is getting aware of this problem of the militants from pakistan.

Extremism in Pakistan comes with four things closely entangled together:- "Hate India, Hate America, Hate Israel and Hate Shias".
QUOTE]

so what did they get outof it
hate india: lost half land, economic development, and are struggling in anarchy
hate america: a kid cant hate dad as he gives u food and security to live, but also smashes u when u dont do homework.
hate isreal: bin bulaye mehman. isreal can wipe pak off in 2 hrs. their hate is worthless
hate shia: theiir internal issue.

i would say pakistan is a confused state who doesnt know how u progress.

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That some have been trained in pakistan and come into china, china is getting aware of this problem of the militants from pakistan.

There is only one place they can be coming from and that is Afghan border.

I already made the point that we want to seal the border, but the Afghans cry about it. Then afterwards they blame Pakistan and say Taliban are coming from Pakistan border.

I think it is impossible to do fencing in mountain areas.


Fence+mine will do the trick.
 
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What kind of trolling when all this is been proven even China knows Uighurs train in pakistan, China shot a bunch of uighur militants that came from pakistan.

Problem is a confusion of ideology, one section wants to act against all the terrorists training there and the other believe they are helping the Islamists in fighting their holy war. The end result comes out as unbaked and unfinished product which neither satisfies the Islamists nor the victim countries. Pakistani forces half heartedly fight their own home grown groups and end up being attacked by terrorists themselves.

There is no other solution than to take the plunge and root out all these camps and hardliners instead of holding on to them as a trump card eg. the Taliban or the India specific terrorist organizations.

Well the Biggest problem tends to be with India do to it's border , However Chinese-Pakistani Border on the chinese side is getting more troops and support. hope a solution for this can be found.

Even the Afghanistan/Pakistan border is difficult terrain to monitor.
 
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TTP is an enemy of Pakistan and everyone in the establishment and local people want them eliminated.
 
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lolxxx
china : manufacturing based economy
India : services based economy
pakistan: terrorist tourism based economy :lol:
 
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China, Iran, need to start building Electric Fences and Mine the border, even Drones. it could get to the level where every country around pakistan starts to seal it borders and leaves pakistan sealed off.

How about starting it from Afghanistan side, it's the NATO which is most vocal about insurgency from Pakistan. In 2005 Pakistan offered to build a 1500 miles long fence on Pak-Afghan border but US backed out.

You see that building a fence puts whose interests at stake:rolleyes:
 
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