"Taliban desperate for direct flights to India; We want Kandahar-Delhi services"

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Yes, they retained the faith they converted to. Recognizing the evils of the past and faith are independent of each other. That was the point I was making. They are not whitewashing history just because it resulted in them becoming Christian.

the late ummayads time of sindh..the slaves became the heads..even the turkic slaves ruled the whole region later brought up local slaves as rulers...

Noones whitewashing nothing.... slavery was a defacto practice until a hundred or so years ago.it was a means to build empires .. it still happens just the form has changed.

Blacks remembering their history doesn't help them much if they arenot actioning and going back to Africa to build their continent.
Staying in north America they still build white man's empire regardless how much they badmouth .

Similarly Pakistanis dont need to try to be part of Arab world or tukic world.. Pakistanis should be comfortable under their skin and make their own identity and remembering the slave kings like ghaznavid and ghurid don't make them lose any respect because unlike British they settled here and amalgamated here with the society and they brought a culture to this world that we still practice to very day. Formation of urdu is one of them.

 

[STREANH]

There should be pre conditions for any further relations with Taliban ruled Afghanistan. The main condition should be zero tolerance for terrorism and higher education for women.

 

[Mirzah]

Oh fun, whenever I need a consensus of a population of a country, I look into Youtube comment section.

i think its quite clear majority of hindus have deep hatred of muslims its not just pakistan

 

[Sayfullah]

Afghan Muslim > Hindu any day.

When was the last time Hindus fought and died for Pakistan in Kashmir?

 

[Sam6536]

i think its quite clear majority of hindus have deep hatred of muslims its not just pakistan

You speak as if majority of Muslims in Pakistan don't have a similar irrational hatred of Indians?
It's an endless cycle of hate that has been indoctrinated in both nations by decades of war, politics, jingoist media and bloodshed. Even the most educated and well off ones can have this hatred.
Pakistan was born out of the two state notion, it has to always say how existence was not possible and India is the only majorly Hindu nation in the world with Hinduism gaining prominence is politics, culture and way of life.
But still the country is secular, we accord equal rights and liberties to all citizens irrespective of class, creed or religion that's the main thing. Muslims occupy high positions and and are not limited from any educational or job sectors.
Does discrimination still exist? Yes. But everything is imperfect in this world including humans and their dogmatic beliefs.
And we're a nation of 1 billion people irrational people are bound to exist.
I can say the same thing about Pakistan's Blasphemy laws, limitations and persecution of minority, why doesn't law protect them eh?

 

[ThunderCat]

Add in liberal Punjabis there too.
Well bro, the writing is on the wall. India and Bangladesh have already overtaken us in terms of economic growth.

Like I wrote, East Punjabi migrants count as Muhajirs. As I also wrote time and again, economic growth does not mean prosperity or higher living standards. The fact remains India and Bangladesh are two of the world's poorest countries.

 

[Mirzah]

You speak as if majority of Muslims in Pakistan don't have a similar irrational hatred of Indians?
It's an endless cycle of hate that has been indoctrinated in both nations by decades of war, politics, jingoist media and bloodshed. Even the most educated and well off ones can have this hatred.
Pakistan was born out of the two state notion, it has to always say how existence was not possible and India is the only majorly Hindu nation in the world with Hinduism gaining prominence is politics, culture and way of life.
But still the country is secular, we accord equal rights and liberties to all citizens irrespective of class, creed or religion that's the main thing. Muslims occupy high positions and and are not limited from any educational or job sectors.
Does discrimination still exist? Yes. But everything is imperfect in this world including humans and their dogmatic beliefs.
And we're a nation of 1 billion people irrational people are bound to exist.
I can say the same thing about Pakistan's Blasphemy laws, limitations and persecution of minority, why doesn't law protect them eh?

but its not even related Pakistan is it? radical hindus are celebrating syrian and Turkish earth quake victims just because they are muslim! radical hindus are also supporting israel just because Palestinians happen to be muslim, hell I even saw radical hindus comment on the twitter page of Armenian prime minister supporting armenia against azerbaijan just because azerbaijan is shia. I even saw hindus commenting they hate everything chinese but love what chinese are doing to uyghur muslims and how they wish they could do the same in india!

 

[ThunderCat]

Sindhis are more ethno centric than Muhajirs. Muhajir isn't even an ethnicity to begin with. No other party, besides PPP, plays Sindhudesh card or plays on ethnic sentiments more than PPP does. PPP is a Sindhi nationalist party.

Muhajir youth is overwhelmingly pro PTI. The two other youth groups that are pro PTI are Punjabis and Pashtuns.

What you are describing is hard to do now considering "Indian progress" is in the gutter due to Modi. One can point to their economic indicators though.

Bulk of Urdu speakers and Muhajirs are religious. The upper class aren't religious, this trend isn't solely constricted to Muhajir upper class though.

Landlords from Sindh have more sway in what happens in GHQ and Islamabad.

Sindhis are fighting for their rights, but they are doing this by the wrong method. "Indian progress" & "Bangladeshi progress" are both nonsensical and gutter due to the fact that economic growth does not necessarily mean prosperity. It requires resource exploitation and pollution which both countries have plenty of. Not to mention only a minority of people from those countries benefited from it.

They are both two of some of the world's poorest countries. Bulk of Muhajirs might be religious and yes elite class from across the country are less religious BUT the fact is the pro-Indian types are AMONGST the Muhajir elites & the Sindhis whom have en inferiority complex towards them.

 

[Imran Khan]

i have an idea . india and afghanistan should be connected via tunnel under pakistan . dig a tunnel deep in paksitan

 

[ThunderCat]

You see Baloch, Sindhis, Pushtuns and even some Kashmiris all working for the Indians.

Only a handful of Baloch separatists. Pashtuns not really, unless you count Afghan migrants. Kashmiris whom are pro-India are Ismalis. You don't see regular Kashmirs supporting the Indian side.

 

[LakeHawk180]

Only a handful of Baloch separatists. Pashtuns not really, unless you count Afghan migrants. Kashmiris whom are pro-India are Ismalis. You don't see regular Kashmirs supporting the Indian side.

Sounds like a lot of people

 

[Destranator]

i have an idea . india and afghanistan should be connected via tunnel under pakistan . dig a tunnel deep in paksitan

I think better extend it on both sides to include Bangladesh & Iran and make it dual channel - one for Afghans, one for oil. Bangladesh and Pakistan can then buy cheap Iranian oil.

Everyone wins.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

No problem for Pakistan, it's just that India shouldn't be allowed to use the Afghan proxies to wage terror on Pakistan, and PTI's Afghan dialogue policy was good, need to be engaged and with a reciprocal goodwill for both countries.

India doesn't want a warm Afghan Taliban and Pak relations just as US.


Shashi Tharoor worries that an emerging Afghanistan-Pakistan-China axis threatens national security and regional stability.

India's Taliban Problem | by Shashi Tharoor - Project Syndicate

Shashi Tharoor worries that an emerging Afghanistan-Pakistan-China axis threatens national security and regional stability.

www.project-syndicate.org

 

[NooriNuth]

Now now, where are those Pakistanis who were celebrating Taliban rule in Afghanistan?
These snakes are an insult to Islam and Muslims .

 

[Sam6536]

but its not even related Pakistan is it? radical hindus are celebrating syrian and Turkish earth quake victims just because they are muslim! radical hindus are also supporting israel just because Palestinians happen to be muslim, hell I even saw radical hindus comment on the twitter page of Armenian prime minister supporting armenia against azerbaijan just because azerbaijan is shia. I even saw hindus commenting they hate everything chinese but love what chinese are doing to uyghur muslims and how they wish they could do the same in india!

As I said above there are both rational and irrational people in this world including the vile ones who will celebrate death of innocents. Free access to the internet has just meant that more of such people are visible, they have always existed everywhere.
And some random comments on the internet doesn't mean anything the fact is that India is among the handful of nations to send aid to both Turkey and Syria. We recently sent 6th plane full of kits and personnel and on the diplomatic stage have offered whatever help is required to both the nations.