Taliban can't move finger without Pakistan

[American Pakistani]

Okay let's see what happens keep living in your sad bubble i pity you

Same goes to you, keep day dreaming for your influence in A-stan as it won't happen, simply cuz you don't border that country.

 

[krash]

It's not offtopic it's very much on topic as to why Iran and India will not back the Taliban once the Americans leave

Chabahar port plan on fast-track - Hindustan Times



Sorry to burst your bubble but the project is on full swing this is not your Gwadar port

Neither the Iranians nor the Indians supported the Taliban before the US went in. What difference is it going to make now? Please do explain because the last many pages have been, at least for me, only filled with this new found false sense of importance and influence by the Indians. India has never been nor will ever be a major player in Afghanistan. Not for a hundred years at least. You send 500 workers there to build infrastructure under the umbrella of the US and then you start dreaming that those who chewed up and spat out the Soviets and the Americans would bend to your will? All the while keeping in mind that, according to your own claims, we control them.

ps: And what do you know about Gwadar my good man?

 

[EurofighterIN]

India trade to hit US$3 billion: ministers


how much is the volume of trade Pakistan does with Burma compared to India?

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Neither the Iranians nor the Indians supported the Taliban before the US went in. What difference is it going to make now? Please do explain because the last many pages have been, at least for me, only filled with this new found false sense of importance and influence by the Indians. India has never been nor will ever be a major player in Afghanistan. Not for a hundred years at least.

That's your view but we will continue to have trade ties with Afghanistan so nothing you can say will change that fact

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Same goes to you, keep day dreaming for your influence in A-stan as it won't happen, simply cuz you don't border that country.

Don't need a border we have access through Iran soon

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Coinciding with India's plans to develop the strategically important Chabahar Port in Iran, the foreign minister of the country Ali Akbar Salehi will visit India on November 15.




Tehran has conveyed to New Delhi Salehi’s plans to attend Indian Ocean Rim Association for Regional Cooperation (IOR-ARC) in Bangalore on November 15 and to hold discussions with his Indian counterpart SM Krishna on a host of issues, senior government officials said.
Chabahar port — 72 km from Pakistan's deep-sea Gwadar port built with Chinese assistance — holds immense strategic and economic significance for India.
New Delhi maintains the port is in the common interest of “India, Iran Afghanistan, as well as Central Asia”. Chabahar is also closer to India than the existing port at Bandar Abbas.


With a host of problems including the West's antagonism toward Iran, the development of the port, for which India and Iran are cooperating since 2003 has not been making desired progress, will be discussed.
The need to speed up the port project was discussed at length at the joint commission between India and Iran last year. Now, India will be sending a technical team to Iran in a bid to speed up the work. According to sources, ministry of shipping had held a meeting recently in this regard.
The port can serve as India's entry point to Afghanistan, Central Asia and beyond. The port can be connected to the Zaranj-Delaram road in Afghanistan's Nimroz province, built with India’s assistance, via Milak.
India, Iran and Afghanistan have signed an agreement to give Indian goods, heading for Central Asia and Afghanistan, preferential treatment and tariff reductions at Chabahar.

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It's gonna be win win win situation for Iran, Afghanistan and India and Pakistan will be the sore looser aww don't worry sweety you have China to hold your hand

 

[muse]

What choice does India have if not seek a alternative route to trade? Pakistan is not granting India access through it's land.


Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

Well that's all part of negotiations - if I understand events, it seem to me that what India want and what Pakistan want is a grand bargain, a general agreement of sorts, to cover not just Afghanistan but Kashmir - however, if the judgement is that such a bargain will have to wait, then I think things begin to look very risky - particularly for Pakistan. On the other hand, Indian friends speak of routes through Iran as if Iran itself was not a player, as if Iran would take kindly to Indians eating up what could have been their market share - it's all rather unrealistic.

 

[American Pakistani]

India trade to hit US$3 billion: ministers


how much is the volume of trade Pakistan does with Burma compared to India?

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That's your view but we will continue to have trade ties with Afghanistan so nothing you can say will change that fact

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Don't need a border we have access through Iran soon

---------- Post added at 05:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:58 AM ----------

Coinciding with India's plans to develop the strategically important Chabahar Port in Iran, the foreign minister of the country Ali Akbar Salehi will visit India on November 15.




Tehran has conveyed to New Delhi Salehi’s plans to attend Indian Ocean Rim Association for Regional Cooperation (IOR-ARC) in Bangalore on November 15 and to hold discussions with his Indian counterpart SM Krishna on a host of issues, senior government officials said.




Chabahar port — 72 km from Pakistan's deep-sea Gwadar port built with Chinese assistance — holds immense strategic and economic significance for India.




New Delhi maintains the port is in the common interest of “India, Iran Afghanistan, as well as Central Asia”. Chabahar is also closer to India than the existing port at Bandar Abbas.




With a host of problems including the West's antagonism toward Iran, the development of the port, for which India and Iran are cooperating since 2003 has not been making desired progress, will be discussed.




The need to speed up the port project was discussed at length at the joint commission between India and Iran last year. Now, India will be sending a technical team to Iran in a bid to speed up the work. According to sources, ministry of shipping had held a meeting recently in this regard.




The port can serve as India's entry point to Afghanistan, Central Asia and beyond. The port can be connected to the Zaranj-Delaram road in Afghanistan's Nimroz province, built with India’s assistance, via Milak.



India, Iran and Afghanistan have signed an agreement to give Indian goods, heading for Central Asia and Afghanistan, preferential treatment and tariff reductions at Chabahar.

I think you have comprehending problems, i said Pakistan should do same thing what india did in A-stan, India & A-stan have no relations before 2001 after that you guys came to spread terrorism in Pakistan, Pakistan have no ties with Burma but it should start up.

 

[ramu]

First of all you guys should know that Karzai doesn't know what he is saying, he just say. Check out his previous statements, one hour he'll say Pakistan supporting insurgents the next hour he will say Pakistan is brother. lol. He brain should be checked at Jinnah Hospital in Kabul.

And you think you know more than Karzai. As someone said, a thin line separates confidence and arrogance.

 

[EurofighterIN]

Well that's all part of negotiations - if I understand events, it seem to me that what India want and what Pakistan want is a grand bargain, a general agreement of sorts, to cover not just Afghanistan but Kashmir - however, if the judgement is that such a bargain will have to wait, then I think things begin to look very risky - particularly for Pakistan. On the other hand, Indian friends speak of routes through Iran as if Iran itself was not a player, as if Iran would take kindly to Indians eating up what could have been their market share - it's all rather unrealistic.

India, Iran and Afghanistan have signed an agreement to give Indian goods, heading for Central Asia and Afghanistan, preferential treatment and tariff reductions at Chabahar



Iran needs $$ now more than ever due to the US sanctions in place and India is one of Iran's biggest exporting markets they both will get closer in the future as the Indian oil & gas demand increases.

 

[EurofighterIN]

I think you have comprehending problems, i said Pakistan should do same thing what india did in A-stan, India & A-stan have no relations before 2001 after that you guys came to spread terrorism in Pakistan, Pakistan have no ties with Burma but it should start up.

Iran and India both backed the Northen alliance before 9/11 so we did have ties. If you have evidence India is spreading terror in Pakistan take your case to the UN as it is starting to sound like a broken record now, as for Burma they will always be closer to India due to trade and defence ties we have in place with the Generals there .

 

[American Pakistani]

And you think you know more than Karzai. As someone said, a thin line separates confidence and arrogance.

Hypocrisy is not good for president of country, Karzai seems hypocrite

Good quote for Indians

 

[muse]

OK - good luck

 

[krash]

That's your view but we will continue to have trade ties with Afghanistan so nothing you can say will change that fact

Exactly. What im presenting is not my view but my judgement. Substantiate your claims with reasons not your personal views. I couldn't care less for them. How will India gain a strong footing in Afghanistan when the only reason they have 5000 workers there is the US umbrella, the only relationship they have is with the Karzai regime (which FYI is limited to Kabul) and when, most importantly, Indian is not nor will be at good terms with the Taliban? The US is preparing to leave, Karzai's days in Afghanistan never came let alone numbered and Afghanistan will be left to the Taliban again (as is very apparent). And the 'nail' on top for your argument,: You people have yourselves claimed that the Taliban are under Pakistan's control. So please tell me where do you see a place for India in the future Afghanistan. Mind you im asking for an argument not some wet dream. So keep the 'views' out.

 

[EurofighterIN]

Exactly. What im presenting is not my view but my judgement. Substantiate your claims with reasons not your personal views. I couldn't care less for them. How will India gain a strong footing in Afghanistan when the only reason they have 5000 workers there is the US umbrella, the only relationship they have is with the Karzai regime (which FYI is limited to Kabul) and when, most importantly, Indian is not nor will be at good terms with the Taliban? The US is preparing to leave, Karzai's days in Afghanistan never came let alone numbered and Afghanistan will be left to the Taliban again (as is very apparent). And the cherry on top, as claimed by India itself, the Taliban are under Pakistan's control. So please tell me where do you see a place for India in the future Afghanistan. Mind you im asking for an argument not some wet dream. So keep the 'views' out.

I said in one of my previous post on this thread that latest polls show Taliban are not popular in Afghanistan they will never be in control like before 9/11.

 

[American Pakistani]

Iran and India both backed the Northen alliance before 9/11 so we did have ties. If you have evidence India is spreading terror in Pakistan take your case to the UN as it is starting to sound like a broken record now, as for Burma they will always be closer to India due to trade and defence ties we have in place with the Generals there .

I'm not talking about Iran, kid. A-stan & India don't have ties before 2001.

UN is unable to solve big issues like Kashmir & Palestine & you think they will solve this?

Well Burma is becoming more pro-China & this thing will help Pakistan.

 

[EurofighterIN]

Updated at: 1921 PST, Saturday, March 13, 2010
ISLAMABAD: A significant decline has been witnessed in the popularity of Taliban both in Pakistan and Afghanistan due to the killings of innocent people in the growing number of terrorist activities, according to Gallop survey.

It says Taliban enjoyed support of 15 per cent Pakistanis in June 2009 which shrank to just 4 per cent in November – December.

According to the survey, 8 out of 10 people in Afghanistan hate the presence of Taliban in their country.

 

[American Pakistani]

Updated at: 1921 PST, Saturday, March 13, 2010
ISLAMABAD: A significant decline has been witnessed in the popularity of Taliban both in Pakistan and Afghanistan due to the killings of innocent people in the growing number of terrorist activities, according to Gallop survey.

It says Taliban enjoyed support of 15 per cent Pakistanis in June 2009 which shrank to just 4 per cent in November – December.

According to the survey, 8 out of 10 people in Afghanistan hate the presence of Taliban in their country.

Good you slap your own Indians by posting this news, as they always claim Pakistan supports these terrorists.