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APC approve talking to Taliban… but is there any use talking to mercenaries when we know who their Master is.

Taliban, Lashker Jhangvi, Sepah e Sahba, LeT or TTP; all are mercenaries unleashing atrocities and destroying and depleting our society from within.
Thousands are killed and they have brought Pakistan to the brink of collapse and made the public life miserable.
They work for their Master….the kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA) to advance his agenda. He feeds them, arms them and supports them.

So better negotiate with the Master, if you have to and Not with his mercenaries.

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What is the hesitation...?
 
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The fighters we call taliban are just proxies. a fodder and are expendable....
You may try to crush them by force; but u only reduce their numbers when many more are there in pipeline.

U need harnessing the agenda of Master...not the fodders

Talking to Taliban is a hogwash......till u talk to the Master nothing comes out of it.

But master has the agenda and is bent upon depleting you...and of course will feed u too..when u r about to die... just to keep u alive..and agree be thankful of him and stay lying on his feet ...

Lets Know the Truth as what is going on...and please Don't bring the God or religion in....No one is serving God here...!
 
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Taliban, Lashker Jhangvi, Sepah e Sahba, LeT or TTP

I think all are supported by pakistan....
 
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APC approve talking to Taliban… but is there any use talking to mercenaries when we know who their Master is.

Taliban, Lashker Jhangvi, Sepah e Sahba, LeT or TTP; all are mercenaries unleashing atrocities and destroying and depleting our society from within.
Thousands are killed and they have brought Pakistan to the brink of collapse and made the public life miserable.
They work for their Master….the kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA) to advance his agenda. He feeds them, arms them and supports them.

So better negotiate with the Master, if you have to and Not with his mercenaries.

and
What is the hesitation...?

Every politician, basically report to same common master... you mentioned.
Scripts of politicians acts, are decided abroad... incl. APC.
 
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APC approve talking to Taliban… but is there any use talking to mercenaries when we know who their Master is.

Taliban, Lashker Jhangvi, Sepah e Sahba, LeT or TTP; all are mercenaries unleashing atrocities and destroying and depleting our society from within.
Thousands are killed and they have brought Pakistan to the brink of collapse and made the public life miserable.
They work for their Master….the kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA) to advance his agenda. He feeds them, arms them and supports them.

So better negotiate with the Master, if you have to and Not with his mercenaries.

and
What is the hesitation...?

Excellent point. however, talking with the master is not that simple, we have relations with Saudi Arabia and 35 other countries whose agencies are at war with ISI/Military. we need to play low and get 24 groups that are ready to negotiate peace with us and become our paid mercenaries, in my opinion.
 
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I don't believe they are mercenaries. I think they are corporations, they've ties to external players but essentially they look upon their own interests. Thus, they are the true masters, not any invisible hand. We basically need to shoot these fellows. Plain and simple. Try to use them and they'll eventually chop off your hand.
 
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ISLAMABAD: Police officers of the four provinces and Gilgit-Baltistan told the Senate Standing Committee on Interior on Wednesday that the crime was becoming organised as various criminal groups had associated themselves with terrorist organisations like the Taliban and Baloch Liberation Army (BLA).

“We are heading for a situation like Mexico where drug lords and street criminals are operating like a corporate firm,” said a senior official of the National Police Bureau. “The more serious problem in Pakistan is that terrorists and anti-state elements are getting aligned with all kinds of criminals.”

The committee’s chairman Senator Talha Mehmood suggested that police should use strong-handed techniques to curb the crime rather than waiting for the outcome of court cases against criminals. “The number of known gangs involved in murders, kidnappings for ransom, car lifting and other criminal activities has been increasing. The general impression is that police cannot even touch these criminals,” he regretted.

Mr Mehmood even stopped short of saying that police should rather take decision by themselves to crush the know criminals, but he was interrupted by Interior Secretary Qamar Zaman Chaudhri.

Islamabad IG Sikander Hayat told the committee meeting held to discuss cases of kidnapping for ransom that police figures and record about the crime did not reflect true picture of the overall situation in the country.

“Things are that people are afraid of us and don’t come forward to register complaints. At the same time our people are losing trust in the system,” he said, terming the figures showing reduced crime an ‘eyewash’.

Senator Shahi Syed of the Awami National Party alleged that terrorist organisations like the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and BLA operated with the help of local criminals in Lyari and other parts of Karachi.

“It may look odd but we have seen it. If you catch a small fish involved in crime his backing comes from the TTP whose field operators in Karachi are criminals belonging to Waziristan or Afghanistan,” he said.

Shahi Syed even accused personnel of intelligence agencies, Rangers and police of conniving with criminals. He cited an example that persons belonging to a terror outfit came to the forefront after complaints were lodged to the officers of an intelligence agency against some criminals.

Tell the committee about coordination between the gangs of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Punjab and Balochistan and the criminals in Karachi, he asked Senator Talha Mehmood. “Why don’t you tell police about your missing 40-foot container?” Shahi Syed said.

Senator Mehmood told the committee that a container carrying some technical parts had been taken to Lyari more than a year ago and despite efforts the driver of the trailer were still missing. The container was found empty. The Karachi DIG alleged that the criminal justice system was protecting the criminals. “We cannot get hold of anybody because we know that even after producing proof, evidence and witnesses in the court if the criminal gets bail everybody, including police officials, may be in trouble,” he added.

A senior police officer from Balochistan admitted that target killings on the basis of sects or ethnicity got out of control. The Gilgit-Baltistan police officer said crime was not an issue in the region, but terrorism and sectarian-related killings were increasing. “Same locals of Diameer were involved in the recent killing of foreign mountaineers at there base camp in Nanga Parwat,” he said.

Asked if there was any foreign hand behind these killings, police officers of Balochistan and Gilgit-Baltistan said their approach was limited to local killers and tracing their planners or financiers was beyond their limits.

The committee decided to hold another meeting and summon personnel of FC, Rangers and ISI to work out a strategy to curb the nexus between criminal gangs and terrorist organisations in country
Criminal gangs work in tandem with terrorists, Senate body told - DAWN.COM
 
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What I find interesting is how political leaders and parties call these guys for CIA/Mossad agents and traitors and Pakistan's enemies and then later goes on and say that they want peace talks with them and even let them open offices for negotiations!
 
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What I find interesting is how political leaders and parties call these guys for CIA/Mossad agents and traitors and Pakistan's enemies and then later goes on and say that they want peace talks with them and even let them open offices for negotiations!

Come now, we are your neighbors, you can always talk to us (assuming that the TTP is indeed a RAW proxy).:angel:
 
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Come now, we are your neighbors, you can always talk to us (assuming that the TTP is indeed a RAW proxy).:angel:

I think everyone are confused on who or what they are. One day, they are RAW agents. The next day they are CIA agents. The next day it is Mossad Agents and then sometimes they are ISI agents.

One day they are evil, the next day they are saints.

What people fail to understand is how politicans are using them to their own benefit and change their tune all the time. TTP no matter who they are, are terrorists and should be treated like terrorists. This country is burning down because of all the extremism and fear these guys spread and we need to do something with it. We need to fight fire with fire and burn them down instead of burning ourself by offering them talks and offices.

But oh well.... Its a bit like the flavour of the month. What is the flavour this month? Is it CIA/ISI/RAW/Mossad agents or is it pure muslims who are raising the beautiful flag of Islam which is actually NOT Islam?!
 
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The Demons of our Own Doings which have come back to haunt us !
 
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