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True Pakistanis are still shocked at branding the Father of Nation, Muhammad Ali Jinnah as kafir (apostate) by terrorists of Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP). But this should shock nobody as nearly all reformers in Muslims history were meted out a similar treatment. Bulleh Shah, a sufi saint and poet, when called a Kafir, composed this Punjabi verse: Toon hoyon aashiq Rabb da teinun hui malaamt lakh/teinun loki kafir aakhdey, toon aakho aakho aakh (ever since you have fallen in love with God, you are being criticized/(but don’t worry) if they call you kafir, you only say “yes, yes”)
But Jinnah was a different matter. He was a direct threat to the religious hegemony of clergy which they were enjoying in the Sub-Continent since the age of Muslim monarchs of nearly all dynasties. For them, the corrupt Moghul era was a model for enforcing their type of religious system. The state of Pakistan, to which they lay their claim to rule, was a secular democratic state which they despised. The clergy under JUH was resisting the idea of Pakistan and was an ally of Congress which stood for an undivided India after departure of British rulers. In Jinnah, they saw a hurdle to their rule as he had declared in clear terms that Pakistan would not be a theocratic state. They all, except for an honorable minority under Maulana Thanwi, declared creation of Pakistan as a sin. They still have not accepted Pakistan and their ideological descendants, the TTP, has unleashed their revenge on Quaid’s Pakistan through acts of terror.
Declaring a Muslim as kafir or Takfiri is not a new phenomenon. Under this, a Muslim accuses another Muslim of apostasy. The accusation itself is called takfir, derived from the word kafir (impiety) and is described as when "...one who is, or claims to be, a Muslim is declared impure."
In principle the only group authorized to declare a Muslim a kafir is the ulema, and this only once all the prescribed legal precautions have been taken. However a growing number of splinter Salafist groups, labeled by some scholars as Salafi-Takfiris, have split from the orthodox method of establishing takfir through the processes of the law, and have reserved the right to declare apostasy themselves.
Middle East expert Robert Baer has written that "takfiri generally refers to a Sunni Muslim who looks at the world in black-and-white; there are true believers and then there are nonbelievers, with no shades in between. A takfiri's mission is to re-create the Caliphate according to a literal interpretation of the Koran." Takfiris believe in Islam strictly according to their interpretation and do not accept any deviation from their path; they reject any reform or change to the religion as it was revealed in the time of the Prophet. Those who change their religion from Islam to any other way of life, or deny any of the fundamental foundations of Islam, or who worship, follow or obey anything other than Islam, become those upon whom the takfiris declare the "takfir", calling them apostates from Islam and so no longer Muslim.
This extremist interpretation of Taqi al-Din Ibn Taymiyyah who issued a famous fatwa declaring jihad against invading Mongols not because they were invading but because they were apostates, apostasy from Islam being punishable by death. Though the Mongols had converted to Islam, Ibn Taymiyyah reasoned that since they followed their traditional Yassa law rather than Islamic Sharia law, they were not really Muslims and thus apostates. More recently 18th Century Islamic Revivalist Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab and 20th century Muslim authors Maulana Maududi and Sayyid Qutb, referenced Ibn Taymiyyah in condemning self-proclaimed Muslims as not really Muslims. Al-Wahhab condemned practices of Shia, Sufi and other Muslims as bid'a (innovation of the religion), and al-Wahhab's followers slew many Muslims for allegedly pagan practices. Like jihadis, Takfiri groups advocate armed struggle against the secular regime but unlike jihadis, takfiri groups make no distinction between the regime and the ordinary population when employing violence. Opponents of the Takfiris often view them as modern-day analogues of the Khawarij, a seventh-century off-shoot Islamic sect which waged war against the Caliphate.
What TTP is doing today is, in fact, what their religious forefathers did at the time of creation of Pakistan. The father of Pakistani Taliban, Maulana Fazlur Rehman had once declared proudly, “Thanks God that we were not partners in the commission of the sin of making of Pakistan”. It is irony of history that the very same anti-Pakistan Mullah dreams, and can sell his soul to the devil, to become prime minister of the very same Pakistan his forefathers so vehemently opposed.

The Passive Voices: For TTP, the Quaid was a kafir….
 
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Bro this is nothing when hazarat esa pbuh will come they wont even recognize Him and Because Of that every one will be in Hell accept Him it was taken From a Muslim Scholar That analyzied all the Ahadees and Tafsirs and Said that Muslims in those Days will have 72 Groups and ESA PBUH will Come and He will Tell Them To Pray 3 times the same way Hazarat Muhammed PBUH prescribed Because According to ISlamic SCholars He Him Self Prayed THree times a day AND THEN THESE GUYS will Call HIM KAFIR:astagh: and then Will TRy TO KILL him and then THE FINAL TRUMPET WILL SOUND and THE UNIVERSE WILL END AND That WOULD BE THE FINAL JUDGEMENT

(I THINK not sure please clarify Only through Quran )EVEN IN QURAN;s TRANSLATION ALLAH only mentions Three Prayers through Hazart JIbrael to Hazart Muhammed PBUH

By the way How many Groups we have that Claim to be Muslim Now a days I only know of Baralvi,Shia,SUnni,Sufi,Wahabi,Salafi,Tableghee can Some One shed the light on this this is very Important

thank you :coffee:
 
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If he is muslim or not what will it can change now ?? :undecided:
 
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"takfiri generally refers to a Sunni Muslim who looks at the world in black-and-white; there are true believers and then there are nonbelievers, with no shades in between. A takfiri's mission is to re-create the Caliphate according to a literal interpretation of the Koran."
I suppose takfiris' "weak spot" is that they base their movement on a literal interpretation of the Koran rather than how Islam was actually practiced the first few centuries after Mohammed.
 
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KILL ALL TTP ! They are not human let alone kafir
 
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I suppose takfiris' "weak spot" is that they base their movement on a literal interpretation of the Koran rather than how Islam was actually practiced the first few centuries after Mohammed.
Nope Literal Interpertation is Very Different then their books about quran and they follow all the ahadees Literal INterpetation only calls Hindus/bhuddist/idol worshipers kaffir, But they call muslims/chritians/jews/everyone kaffir and ITs NOt Koran Its quran
 
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afterall their spirtual god father was anti pakistani

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just because he wanted democracy and secularism??
 
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Quaid wanted secular democratic state, how many people today want this ?

Almost 99% of Pakistanis out of 180 Million simply want to live in peace have a career and full fill their life ambitions.
The remaing 1% are on foreign payroll!
 
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Almost 99% of Pakistanis out of 180 Million simply want to live in peace have a career and full fill their life ambitions.
The remaing 1% are on foreign payroll!

Of coures that's all we want in our lives..
 
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Almost 99% of Pakistanis out of 180 Million simply want to live in peace have a career and full fill their life ambitions. The remaing 1% are on foreign payroll!
I am talking about Secular Democratic state. And 99% is wrong even if you used it for presenting what majority wants.

I am still talking about how many will want Secular and Democratic state ? Many people here don't even like Democracy.
 
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Those people who claims to be a Momin even don't know that considering a muslim as Kafir is also forbidden :hitwall:
 
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