Takeaways for India from the Su-24 shoot down

[Indian Jatt]

SU 30 havn't seen any battle ground yet,,, its a kid man in front of F16,,, F16 is continously evolving and best dog fighter ever,,, MIG 29 is no match F16 block 52, do some internet research for comparison,,,

i did F-16 latest version isn't any good too......i think you need to know more about russian fighters....few days ago....mig-29 locked onto 4 turkish F-16's and then turkish took revenge by downing a strike fighter, wait for some time you will see turkish F-16's that are more evolved and better than what you got, falling from the sky......and yes Su-30 are beast when in air and hanger queen when on ground and about availability....that too will change in some time.....you know we will be signing deal with russians on indigenous production of spare parts that's going to increase the availability rates to 75% from present 55%.........cheers
PS(I believe in productive conversations)

One has got to love the sense of victory by just flying inside their own airspace. Mighty IAF is always victorious in exercises only. When it comes to real wars, they wouldn't dare challenging PAF which is one third of its size. Beat it boys. Come back when you have really done something.

bro watch out for your navy and army because they really get scared when they hear "INDIAN ARMY" and "INDIAN NAVY" and yes i don't need to tell that they all fight together and have won wars for their country.....and about indian navy, they like to smack enemy a***.......ghar mein guss ke marte hai

 

[wiseone2]

Non sense......
F16 is most successful dog fighter in modern history. Even if pair of Mig29 were there then still F16 have done the job. Mig29 is praised very highly but it yet to achieve a single aerial kill in it's 40+ year life span.......

I do not think the MiG-29 is better than F-16. Name a competent professional air force that operated the MiG-29s and went to war

Kill ratio of US aircraft vs Russian speaks for itself. Nobody in his right mind would deny that Russians make some good aircraft but in the end US win out. Wonder why?

America has fought against Serbia, Iraq, Libya. They have not fought a large country (50 million+ people)

 

[Defender@@]

i did F-16 latest version isn't any good too......i think you need to know more about russian fighters....few days ago....mig-29 locked onto 4 turkish F-16's and then turkish took revenge by downing a strike fighter, wait for some time you will see turkish F-16's that are more evolved and better than what you got, falling from the sky......and yes Su-30 are beast when in air and hanger queen when on ground and about availability....that too will change in some time.....you know we will be signing deal with russians on indigenous production of spare parts that's going to increase the availability rates to 75% from present 55%.........cheers
PS(I believe in productive conversations)


bro watch out for your navy and army because they really get scared when they hear "INDIAN ARMY" and "INDIAN NAVY" and yes i don't need to tell that they all fight together and have won wars for their country.....and about indian navy, they like to smack enemy a***.......ghar mein guss ke marte hai

Jasey dawarka mn mara tha ?

 

[Indian Jatt]

Jasey dawarka mn mara tha ?

"dwarka mn mara tha?"
An old Indian beef: When Pakistan Navy killed a cow in Dwarka in 1965
dude please haath jodta hun tum guss ke mat maara karo....yaar read the article sharam aajayegi tum logon ko, the only casualty of the attack was a cow, and you call that a successful attack......your shells fell before reaching the target, 50 odd shells did not explode and you people thought about dwarka blazing huh???bro your navy was lazy, before they went for attack, our ships were moved from dwarka.....and your navy, "no worries we will kill gau mata and tell our people that we destroyed dwarka"......

 

[Defender@@]

"dwarka mn mara tha?"
An old Indian beef: When Pakistan Navy killed a cow in Dwarka in 1965
dude please haath jodta hun tum guss ke mat maara karo....yaar read the article sharam aajayegi tum logon ko, the only casualty of the attack was a cow, and you call that a successful attack......your shells fell before reaching the target, 50 odd shells did not explode and you people thought about dwarka blazing huh???bro your navy was lazy, before they went for attack, our ships were moved from dwarka.....and your navy, "no worries we will kill gau mata and tell our people that we destroyed dwarka"......

If you had use some publically available source other than your own newspaper then things would be different,,, try wikipedia,,, although it has lot of Indian influence but still telling the truth.

Operation Dwarka - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Significant attack which destroyed your radar responsible to guide IAF...

 

[Indian Jatt]

If you had use some publically available source other than your own newspaper then things would be different,,, try wikipedia,,, although it has lot of Indian influence but still telling the truth.

Operation Dwarka - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Significant attack which destroyed your radar responsible to guide IAF...

bro when you destroy fuel storage tanks or strategic reserves then you say that your navy has done something when you sink enemy ships then you say your navy has done something, your PN's mission was to destroy harbour and ships stationed there......but what was destroyed???radar station???a cow killed??i will again tell you to read about operation trident, pearl harbour, scarborough, hartlepool, whitby.....chod tu pehele yahi sab padh le baad mein talk about successful naval raids......you people sent 8 ships to destroy just a radio station???
conclusion:it was a failure of Pakistan navy, you thought of scoring kills on our missile boats, but a were just able to kill a cow.....I believe the biggest failure was that you missed the boats as well as civilian casualty....

 

[proka89]

Serbia fully supported by Russia in war.

You are talking about WW1 or WW2, because those two wars are the last ones in which Serbia was supported by Russia.

With so many NATO aircraft flying, the mighty MiG-29 (all hail), the best thing to roll out of Russia could not score a single repeat a SINGLE air to air kill? All Serbian pilots were just dumb fools and all NATO pilots were super aces?!

Serbian Mig 29 were supposed to go to overhaul in 1997. During the NATO bombing in 1999 Serbia had a few operational mig 29, against hundreds of NATO alliance aircrafts. All NATO fighters were supported with AWACS, so they always knew where are our fighters as soon as they took off. At the same time our fighters were under heavy jamming, so some of them couldn't even use their radars, because they were malfunctioning because of this. And our ground radars couldn't provide much support, because they were hunted by HARM missiles. All our Mig 29's were shot down with bvr missiles, and they never stood a chance.

 

[Defender@@]

You are talking about WW1 or WW2, because those two wars are the last ones in which Serbia was supported by Russia.



Serbian Mig 29 were supposed to go to overhaul in 1997. During the NATO bombing in 1999 Serbia had a few operational mig 29, against hundreds of NATO alliance aircrafts. All NATO fighters were supported with AWACS, so they always knew where are our fighters as soon as they took off. At the same time our fighters were under heavy jamming, so some of them couldn't even use their radars, because they were malfunctioning because of this. And our ground radars couldn't provide much support, because they were hunted by HARM missiles. All our Mig 29's were shot down with bvr missiles, and they never stood a chance.

Thanks for accepting claim... Thats what our claim was mig29 is not a threat