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Taiwan's election result could push US and China closer to conflict

The leaf in autumn change color and fall to the ground as the cold breeze fetters.

Very poetic pen pal but i do not foresee any change in Taiwan politics resulting an even closer ties between Taiwan and Japan. 1995 is still fresh in the memory :rofl:, independence is a very distant dream
 
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Ma is far from pro-Beijing. KMT is pretty much a US proxy while DPP is a Japanese one, but DPP must also take order from Washington just as Tokyo does. So there is essentially little difference to Beijing who is in power. Besides, there are still a lot of leverage Beijing could use depending on Tsai's action. I'll say first unfreeze the diplomatic competition by taking away 1 or 2 states that still recognize ROC to watch Tsai's reaction.
 
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you guys are so sophisticated about international relationships, lol. I have no clues how you guys get all those Machiavellian politics.

As an ordinary overseas Chinese, I am all for Taiwan independence. South and north have been separate countries for almost half of China's history, so what's wrong with an independent Taiwan? Ex, if you were living under Southern Song Dynasty, would you want Song Dynasty be "unified" by Jing the Khitan regime? I think this is exactly how Taiwan people feel right now. The best for Taiwan people is to keep the status quo and wait for future generations to deal with this.

Many people are so stuck with this ONE China thing, as if their life will be better, lol. Plus, I wonder who would actually choose to live under CCP rules when so many wealthy middle class Chinese, including CCP leaders, are moving overseas. Do mainland Chinese really think unification is possible when China is under CCP one party rule?

Of course, I also think it's complete bullshit about Japan and U.S. colluding with Taiwan to counter Mainland China. You guys either read too much tabloid magazines or read too little real books.
 
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We are willing to turn the world upside down to keep the motherland intact, are you willing to do that for Taiwan? That is the question only the heart can tell. Not the mind, my friend LOL.
 
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You know that the Commander of the ROCAF is in communication with Gen. Nakatani in regards to this, don't you? LOL.

Taiwan's officer cadre are trained in principles they have maintained from the Imperial Army, anyways. Taiwan's military standard is continuation of the IJA, if you have actually studied Taiwanese Military History.

If you served in the Taiwanese Army you would know what I'm talking about.

No, those troops were incorporated into ROC forces. The military remains the most blue-dominated part of Chinese society.
 
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Is the new leader of TW more stupid than Lee Teng-hui and Chen Shui-bian ?
 
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Do mainland Chinese really think unification is possible when China is under CCP one party rule?

I am not a Mainlander (I'm from Hong Kong) but I will answer this anyway.

The answer is yes.

China has the overwhelming advantage over the ROC/Taiwan, and that advantage is only going to increase exponentially as time goes on.

Even our conventional rocket artillery alone has over 350+ km range, and conventional rocket artillery shells are very cheap. We have the largest manufacturing base on Earth, we could simply fire an (essentially infinite) number of rocket artillery shells at Taiwan, without even having to leave our own shores.

We aren't going to compromise on the idea of One China, not ever. If some people in the ROC want to help foreigners to hurt their own Motherland (China), then they are traitors, and no one will shed any tears for them.
 
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The Anti-Secession Law (反分裂国家法) has been ratified by the NPC & enacted as law by Presidential Decree by ex-Pre. Hu in 2005. Doesn't matter if Japan or the US dare or dare not intervene if Taiwan declares de jure independence. Remember, Taiwan is but 200+ km from the mainland, there's no running away nor is there a hiding place behind the US or Japan.
 
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Many people are so stuck with this ONE China thing, as if their life will be better, lol. Plus, I wonder who would actually choose to live under CCP rules when so many wealthy middle class Chinese, including CCP leaders, are moving overseas. Do mainland Chinese really think unification is possible when China is under CCP one party rule?
Do you have any idea how many taiwanese are living in mainland? Could be one million. The reason why many Chinese moved out is not due to CCP's rule. More Indians are moving out of India in the mean time. Could we attribute the reason to the bullshit democracy or freedom? Over populated countries are always the source of immigrants. And China is in the process of industrialization. Those who like clean environment and slow life tend to emigrate to other countries.
 
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The US's Taiwan relationship act and China's anti-secessionist law makes the position of President of Taiwan the most important position in the world.

It gives it the power for the President of Taiwan to start a war between China and United States.
 
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Taiwan was independent state in the past, was annexed by both China and Japan recently. This a good time for Taiwan to decre fully independence and join to UN.
 
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The US's Taiwan relationship act and China's anti-secessionist law makes the position of President of Taiwan the most important position in the world.

It gives it the power for the President of Taiwan to start a war between China and United States.
Start a war between China and United States? No way. Taiwan is tool of US. US will never shed blood for a tool.
 
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Ma is far from pro-Beijing. KMT is pretty much a US proxy while DPP is a Japanese one, but DPP must also take order from Washington just as Tokyo does. So there is essentially little difference to Beijing who is in power. Besides, there are still a lot of leverage Beijing could use depending on Tsai's action. I'll say first unfreeze the diplomatic competition by taking away 1 or 2 states that still recognize ROC to watch Tsai's reaction.

The pro-China faction in Taiwan is virtually non-existent.

If China was weak like 100 years ago, then they would already become independent.

Do mainland Chinese really think unification is possible when China is under CCP one party rule?

lol, who cares about what Taiwan really thinks?

It is all about the power, the so-called "democracy" is nothing but the political proxy war between the major powers.

If China is becoming really weak, then Taiwan could become an independent entity as we would be powerless to do anything.

However, do you believe the current China will let Taiwan to go away? The Taiwanese can leave, but the island must stay.
 
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The pro-China faction in Taiwan is virtually non-existent.

If China was weak like 100 years ago, then they would already become independent.



lol, who cares about what Taiwan really thinks?

It is all about the power, the so-called "democracy" is nothing but the political proxy war between the major powers.

If China is becoming really weak, then Taiwan could become an independent entity as we would be powerless to do anything.

However, do you believe the current China will let Taiwan to go away? The Taiwanese can leave, but the island must stay.

If someone from the ROC/Taiwan is not loyal to their Motherland (China) then I wouldn't even consider them Chinese.

By abandoning their motherland, those guys have basically turned themselves into foreigners.

After that, they can't plead for mercy any longer. They are welcome to leave at any time.
 
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Start a war between China and United States? No way. Taiwan is tool of US. US will never shed blood for a tool.

My observation from the US aggression on your SCS islands yestoday suggest your Navy's inability to do any thing if Taiwan declare independence. Your decision makers just lack that courage to a real confrontation.
 
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