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A pro-independence Taiwanese think tank threw its backing Monday behind Japan's decision last week to enable the exercise of collective self-defense.

Liu Shih-chung, president of the Taiwan Brain Trust, voiced regret that the administration of Taiwan President Ma Ying-jeou was unclear about its position on the decision by Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's Cabinet to approve a reinterpretation of Article 9 of the nation's pacifist Constitution.

"The think tank is in favor of the Abe Cabinet's decision to enable Japan to exercise the right to collective self-defense," he said, adding that they hope Japan will play a more responsible leading role in the region and all Asian-Pacific countries refrain from unilaterally changing the status quo with non-peaceful means.

Liu said that while they do not urge the Abe administration to go a step further to enact the Japanese version of the Taiwan Relations Act, they hope Taiwan would be more clearly included in the guidelines for security cooperation when Japan and the United States are revising them.

The Taiwan Relations Act is a U.S. law passed in 1979 which requires the United States to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character.

The think tank also hopes the Taiwanese and Japanese governments place priority on bilateral negotiations for a free trade agreement so Taiwan would have a chance to diversify its risks and not overly rely on China economically.

Luo Fu-chuan said Japan was ready to sign a trade pact similar to a free trade agreement with Taiwan when he served as a representative to Japan between 2000 and 2004.

However, the plan fell through "because Japan had certain misgivings about the potential impact on its relationship with China."

Due to the lack of diplomatic ties, Taiwan's former representative to Japan Koh Se-kai said FTA talks between Taiwan and Japan are semiofficial.

"If Japan is willing, the agreement can be signed at any time," he said. "The key lies in whether Japan will be able to overcome its misgivings about China."

Luo and Koh suggested that Japan will come to the defense of Taiwan if China attacks Taiwan.

Koh said that when Taiwan is under armed attack by China, Japan's Self-Defense Forces will likely come to the defense of Taiwan if the Japanese government considers such an attack to constitute a threat to Japan's national security.

Describing Taiwan-Japan relations as an "extension of Japan-U.S. security cooperation," Luo said the fundamental position of Japan and the United States is that peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait must be maintained.

"The United States does not approve of any threat to peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait," he said. "Japan should also take the same position."




Taiwan think tank backs Japan's defense policy shift | GlobalPost
 
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I personally didn't think the Taiwanese would welcome strategic involvement of Japan. I actually thought they would be opposed to Japanese designs to include them in Collective Self Defense, but this report rather awed me.
 
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I personally didn't think the Taiwanese would welcome strategic involvement of Japan. I actually thought they would be opposed to Japanese designs to include them in Collective Self Defense, but this report rather awed me.
really? Didn't that one dude that became president almost petitioned to be part of Japan.

Personally I don't care if Japan does this or not, obviously our government have to protest to keep up appearances, but overall, we support this move, especially when down the line we can also purchase Japanese made weapons.

I don't know why nobody thinks China will go for some Japanese systems here and there. It's going to happen, sooner or later depends actually more on Japan than china. The new Japanese tanks are not bad.


But I'm wondering would Japan actually declare war on China if China launches full assault on Taiwan? I don't think we will, but recent developments suggest we can't discount that possibility. The "good" relationship will probably end as Taiwan consider itself above us "petty" mainlanders.

What's Japan's view of Taiwan anyways.
 
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Interesting news. What do you think @TaiShang , @Genesis , @Edison Chen , @Chinese-Dragon , @LeveragedBuyout , @Peter C , @OCguy , @gambit , @KAL-EL .

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A pro-independence Taiwanese think tank threw its backing Monday behind Japan's decision last week to enable the exercise of collective self-defense.

Liu Shih-chung, president of the Taiwan Brain Trust, voiced regret that the administration of Taiwan President Ma Ying-jeou was unclear about its position on the decision by Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's Cabinet to approve a reinterpretation of Article 9 of the nation's pacifist Constitution.

"The think tank is in favor of the Abe Cabinet's decision to enable Japan to exercise the right to collective self-defense," he said, adding that they hope Japan will play a more responsible leading role in the region and all Asian-Pacific countries refrain from unilaterally changing the status quo with non-peaceful means.

Liu said that while they do not urge the Abe administration to go a step further to enact the Japanese version of the Taiwan Relations Act, they hope Taiwan would be more clearly included in the guidelines for security cooperation when Japan and the United States are revising them.

The Taiwan Relations Act is a U.S. law passed in 1979 which requires the United States to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character.

The think tank also hopes the Taiwanese and Japanese governments place priority on bilateral negotiations for a free trade agreement so Taiwan would have a chance to diversify its risks and not overly rely on China economically.

Luo Fu-chuan said Japan was ready to sign a trade pact similar to a free trade agreement with Taiwan when he served as a representative to Japan between 2000 and 2004.

However, the plan fell through "because Japan had certain misgivings about the potential impact on its relationship with China."

Due to the lack of diplomatic ties, Taiwan's former representative to Japan Koh Se-kai said FTA talks between Taiwan and Japan are semiofficial.

"If Japan is willing, the agreement can be signed at any time," he said. "The key lies in whether Japan will be able to overcome its misgivings about China."

Luo and Koh suggested that Japan will come to the defense of Taiwan if China attacks Taiwan.

Koh said that when Taiwan is under armed attack by China, Japan's Self-Defense Forces will likely come to the defense of Taiwan if the Japanese government considers such an attack to constitute a threat to Japan's national security.

Describing Taiwan-Japan relations as an "extension of Japan-U.S. security cooperation," Luo said the fundamental position of Japan and the United States is that peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait must be maintained.

"The United States does not approve of any threat to peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait," he said. "Japan should also take the same position."




Taiwan think tank backs Japan's defense policy shift | GlobalPost

In truth, this report seems a bit self-serving for Taiwan. I can see what Taiwan gets out of it: free trade, weapons, a defense alliance. What does Japan get out of it? Everything Taiwan can provide to Japan is already being provided by the US, and some incremental trade benefits at the cost to one of Japan's primary markets is unthinkable. I can't see Japan risking its already tenuous relationship with China to explicitly embrace Taiwan.
 
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Think tanks simply dose not exist in Taiwan, only opportunists does.
 
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I don't know what to make of it other than it looks like some groups in Taiwan are more worried about China than Japan. However I have no idea what the majority thinks.

Personally I don't care if Japan does this or not, obviously our government have to protest to keep up appearances, but overall, we support this move, especially when down the line we can also purchase Japanese made weapons.

I don't know why nobody thinks China will go for some Japanese systems here and there. It's going to happen, sooner or later depends actually more on Japan than china. The new Japanese tanks are not bad.

Why would Japan change their interpretation of the Constitution to militarize (with lots of hesitation from its own people) and then turn around and sell you stuff? I'm sure that would make those same hesitant Japanese do a unified WTF!

But I'm wondering would Japan actually declare war on China if China launches full assault on Taiwan? I don't think we will, but recent developments suggest we can't discount that possibility. The "good" relationship will probably end as Taiwan consider itself above us "petty" mainlanders.

It would be another Korean War type UN force. Japan would just be able to join the group.
 
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I can't stop laughing. This is most probably Taiwanese political tricks or psycholagny. China is the least country in the world that will attack Taiwan. On the contrary, our policy is too soft to Taiwan. They forget when Taiwanese fishermen was killed by the Pinoys, who is behind them, to help them. Taiwanese know China ingratiates herself with Taiwan, Taiwan knows China tolerates them, so they again and again ignore China's feeling.
 
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China is the least country in the world that will attack Taiwan.

What the??? What is Taiwan buying all this military hardware for?

Name another country on this planet that has some kind of interest in invading Taiwan????

USA? We sell them weapons why would they even deal with us if they were worried? In fact we just built them an expensive state-of-the-art early warning radar (pointed only at China BTW)

Japan? With US bases on Japan that just isn't going to happen. In fact I bet Taiwan is happy there are US bases. That's one headache solved.

Philippines? Yeah right. Not happening.

China? bingo!!
 
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What the??? What is Taiwan buying all this military hardware for?

Name another country on this planet that has some kind of interest in invading Taiwan????

USA? We sell them weapons why would they even deal with us. In fact we just built an early warning radar (pointed only at China BTW)

Japan? With US bases on Japan that isn't going to happen. In fact I bet Taiwan is happy there are US bases. That's one headache solved.

Philippines? Yeah right. Not happening.

China? bingo!!

YOU ARE A LIAR.
 
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Inside any entity, shit always exists no matter how it is clean already.
unfortunately, you are lucky to get one and show it to us.
However, for the sake of Taiwan's own interest, if it really has a hope of independence, the change of Japan is really good to such an aim. Japan policy shift aims China, especially, in case that China uses force to unify Taiwan, then Japan will be surely involved.
Why Taiwan cannot give an official statement over such a change, it is because the pride. As one side of China civil war, ROC in Taiwan is still a victorious nation. Japan, being the loser, was supposed to have no right to keep an army, no right to perform a war.
Poor Taiwan moron leaders, pride and interests are doing a good battle inside their hearts.
I personally didn't think the Taiwanese would welcome strategic involvement of Japan. I actually thought they would be opposed to Japanese designs to include them in Collective Self Defense, but this report rather awed me.
 
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I can't stop laughing

:rofl::rofl::rofl: You are not laughing, you are angry. Just laugh, show your grey face!

In the past, last century, yes, Taiwan is defending itself against China, that's why we have 1996 Taiwan strait crisis. Now, there is no sign China and Taiwan will have a war, from the media or the world situation. Most Taiwanese are more concerned with China's economy invasion, also called the Cross-Strait TiSa, many Taiwanese capital flow to China, leaving their market sucked up. Big Taiwanese firms benefit from this, like Foxconn, their factories completely transformed to China from Taiwan. Due to labor cost and linguistic advantage, many SME flow to China as well. China's talent importing policy also provide them with huge money. Taiwan is sucked up, this is our economy solution, this is smart move, and it really works, so why do we change our current policy to a stupid one? China is never the backward country that can only resort to muscle and weapon any more. The more pressure we place on Taiwan, the further we push Taiwan to the US, we are not stupid like Russians did to Crimea. That's why China is soft to Taiwan. So, whatever you like, you can say Taiwan buying weapon against China, maybe it's true, but China buying weapon is never to against Taiwan, but Japan, Vietnam and Philipine. If you read Chinese, most people on the Internet (Chinese forums) stand up for Taiwan, speak for Taiwan, and yes, ethnically, we are all Chinese, from the bottom of their heart, they don't want be enemies of Taiwan. As I see, they are really stupid as ****.

Statistics on how many young Taiwanese have moved to China are not available, but according to a survey of college graduates seeking jobs through Taiwan's 1111 Job Bank in 2010 - 73% of the respondents said they were willing to work in China.

This year a survey showed that among graduates who want to leave Taiwan, more would work in mainland China, Hong Kong and Macau - 52% - than anywhere else.

Why China is land of opportunity for young Taiwanese
 
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but China buying weapon is never to against Taiwan, but Japan, Vietnam and Philipine.

You must be on serious drugs if you think China's military buildup is for Japan (which has a tiny military and is a zero threat), Vietnam (which also has a tiny military compared to China), or the Philippines (also a small military).

What planet are you on???
 
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[quote="Edison Chen, post: 5888995, member: 148833"|but China buying weapon is never to against Taiwan, but Japan, Vietnam and Philipine.

You must be on serious drugs if you think China's military buildup is for Japan (which has a tiny military and is a zero threat), Vietnam (which also has a tiny military compared to China), or the Philippines (also a small military).

What planet are you on???[/quote]

You must eat too much cheese burger, your fat brain cell stops you from critical thinking, don't give up treatment, try some pill to stir up your brain. I think they will form a alliance, you will have to deal with them three together, and with the US behind, with the western sanction coming up.
 
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