Taiwan fisherman shot dead by Filipino military

[ChineseTiger1986]

So are you admitting that China is invading my country's waters



That might be a bit dangerous. There are a number of bases, including a marine base
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A lot of Chinese members are now admitting that they are encroaching into Philippine waters.

The problem is your President Benigno Aquino III, China has proposed to co-develop the oil and gas fields in SCS years ago, but he refused, instead he is joining the US encirclement against China.

Furthermore, his administration was provoking China's sovereignty in order to cover up their incompetence in the domestic policy.

Aquino III has chosen to be China's enemy, so don't blame for China's coming aggression.

 

[Zero_wing]

So are you admitting that China is invading my country's waters



That might be a bit dangerous. There are a number of bases, including a marine base
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A lot of Chinese members are now admitting that they are encroaching into Philippine waters.

Welcome to reality my friend(not) false flagger! nice trick sympathy nice one buddy boy

 

[shuttler]

I kindly hope that our Vietnamese posters in this forum are restraint from over-hype our military power. As one of our General recently has said: "Vietnam only buys enough equipment to protect itself." Indeed everything we have in our arsenals is defensive type. Vietnam does not want to cause trouble. Our military purchases are pegged to be less than Indonesia, Malaysia,Thailand, and even Singapore so no country in the ASEAN has reason to worry about our build-ups. However, we always send a strong signal that Vietnam is not to be messed with. Any superpowers attacking us will lose an arm and a leg. That's been working well to deter Expansionists from the North or anywhere else. Of course, our strength is many times less than PRC, or ROC but that's not to be worry too much. PRC and ROC need all that toys to face each other. PRC also has to face everyone from Russia, USA, Japan, to India, especially their own peasants plus independent movements from Tibet and Uyghur. Therefore, PRC cannot afford a severe losses to Vietnam.

I hope some of us stop using the same grandiose languages the Chinese posters have been using. We have the strong of our moral argument so we don't need to sink to their level. Vietnam should learn something from Indians and the way Gandhi gained his country independence. India is now partner with many countries from East to West. India has a strong military but no one in the world hates India except China and Pakistan. Compare that achievement with China's and we see that cultures and policies lead to different results. Confucianism is great for self defense against invaders but it's also a poison by its imperialist ideas. China is suffering from that, and Vietnam needs to resist from doing the same.

suffering - what are you doing with your hidden lectures to the vietcongs and pinoys?

and on second check you have deleted what I quoted in time of your presentation here! what a coward!

Back to this issue, I can see Chinese Central Government jumps in glee by the death of its brother's citizen.

where do you see the glee except on one of your postings in the thread below you are in ecstacy for killing "Chinese"

Indeed. The moral of the story is that our Pinoy buddies got their revenge. Come hell or high waters, they shot at a Chinese alright...hahahaha!

http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-...sination-unarmed-fisherman-philippines-2.html

They jumped the gun to issue "barbaric" condemnation against Philippines although the incident did not involve its citizens nor happened in their b.s.cow-tongue (Nine Dash) claimed. They did this for 3 reasons:

you comment above indeed showed you "barbarism" - laughing at "killing Chinese"

what is cow tongue as in some hindu rituals?

1) Divert attentions away from PRC shooting of Vietnamese boats, repeated aggressive actions of cutting lines of foreign survey ships from India's to USA's, repeated unlawful arrest of Vietnamese and Filipinos fishing boats in their respective territories, repeated harassment of Vietnamese and Filipinos fishermen, and repeated acts of compromising Philippines territories in the Scarborough Reefs
2) Drive a wedge between a untied front of nations battling against PRC's expansionism and total control in SCS including Vietnam, Philippines, Taiwan, ASEAN countries and even India. This is the most crafty attack yet in Chinese deception: dividing your opponents. This is part of Sun Tzu's book that Chinese has learnt by heart

3) Boosting PRC's moral to replicate the same incident in the SCS right now. In fact this is part of their game plans when they sent 32 hundred-ton-"fishing boats" with an 4,000 tons tanker and a 1,500 tons escort ship to the Spratly Islands (Some "civilian shipping trip" that is!! )

With these three reasons, I hope Vietnamese, Filipinos, Taiwanese, and Indian posters understand this deception and have appropriate responses. Of course, false flaggers know who they are

So what is the effective counter-measure to that crafty trick from the PRC during similar incident? Vietnam seems to have made a good plan. For example, during the invasion of 32 'fishing ships," Vietnamese newspapers told a story of single brave Vietnam fishing boat facing the Chinese's army. This leads me to remember Tiananmen Square with that one brave man against a tank column. Vietnamese boat moved very close to PRC's convoy, dangerously diverted their course outside of Vietnam's territories. The single act also delayed their illegal fishing plan for a day. That's how you deal with cunning foes: using guts to contain them.

you are the consummate conspiracy theorists with a very wicked mind

really do you worse the matter in fact that PCG (i don't know if your stupid or don't know the deference between civilian law enforcement and the military) and what consequence what china going to attack the Philippines The MDT will be in effect lets see how you fair against America pacific fleet and please say whatever you want we are not apologies from protecting our waters from chinese poachers who was stupid enough to ram a small PCG vessel so you hopes of the world will condemn us is lacking on proper logic one our rules of Engagement follows International law its common sense really that you don't run and especially don't ram a Coast Guard vessel regardless of its size in fact its consider a hostile act if we are barbric as you imperial commies say we are it will grounds to go to war with taiwan but luckily we are not like that at all and besides we still upgrading our capabilities so again learn some international law for yourself before you bark on it beside china and taiwan (country with no International recognition as sovereign country because you commies Imperials still insist on taiwan as province can not simply go in the UN or any International body expect human rights organization which is a good course see am helping hahaha still it will do no good because ramming a coast guard vessel or any vessel for that matter is crime add to that they were illegally fishing on our waters is other issue so insist on your so called cause and threaten us more but it will not change the fact that your wrong and the PCG boys did there job and follow the rules of engagement and this threats (which i doubt will happen because china has a lot to loss than gain from going to war with any country the only thing were getting from china is economic boycott which does not and will not hurt us i mean 4th trading partner who is hardly a partner trying to invade you and killing your domestic industries and stealing your natural resources is hardly a lost so good bye and will good retains to bad rubbish and say hello to more jobs and no more cheap dangerous goods and more industries and besides by the rate the Philippines is going we still have America, Europe,Japan, Korea and the rest of the world lining up to invest so losing you people is hardly a problem as i said before we have other better markets than you so get over yourselves your not so important so as we filipinos would say feeling inyo importante kayo asa pa kayo mas importante pa ang tae ko kay sa mga tae na katulad niyo kasi yon may pakinabang kay sa inyo salut at prewesyo sa kapwa tao find a google translator to translate that! ) your making give me your best shot i don't care if America comes or not bring it on! But the world will still see your country as aggressor and Imperialist man you people made a lot of enemies so when war comes it will not be a problem getting allies and support is as easy as pie sure you can win the air and sea battles but can you win on land please the Philippines will give you ran for your money and your seat in the UN will not protect you in fact i would not be surprised if your seat is taken for not following international law for solving conflicts peacefully your not America or Russia so in your dreams Imperialist so you cry at home and tell mommy how the mean filipino made you cry because you can't win in the internet because no one can accept your chinese imperial logic expect for your fellow chinese which good for you but still bad for you so again bring it on were waiting for a war that will never come.

Fantasies ad nauseum. Get back to reality little boys.

@ yourself indeed!

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

suffering - what are you doing with your hidden lectures to the vietcongs and pinoys?

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where do you see the glee except on one of your posting in the thread below you are in ecstacy for killing "Chinese"





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you comment above indeed showed you "barbarism" - laughing at "killing Chinese"

what is cow tongue as in some hindu rituals?


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you are the consummate conspiracy theorists with a very wicked mind





@ yourself indeed!

lol @ those Taiwanese idiots/sheeps who will blindly follow/obey the US can check this post, their master hates them because of their Chinese blood.

Being a dog of US isn't a choice to survive, since US wants them to be a dead dog.

 

[Zero_wing]

The no such thing as defensive force, weak military can't use their capacity as aggressive to attack a stronger military force, of course Vietnamese general would declare their military only defensive in nature because they don't have the mean to fully attack and destroy any military that stronger than them. When your a poor nation, your military expenditure can't compare to China a currently 2nd in economy in the world. China military expansion is the real threat to Vietnam and Philippine as both nation are in territorial dispute with China in SCS. Even Philippine and Vietnam both have overlap claim to the SCS islets. Philippine and Vietnam want to present a united front to counter against China aggressive posture in SCS but many Asian nation that have no claim in the SCS will only ally them self to a nation that better serve their own interest at best. Thailand, Cambodia, Singapore these nations won't ally with Philippine and Vietnam to counter against China to better serve and enforce the right of Philippine and Vietnam claiming of the SCS mineral resource. China won't win the support from Thailand, Cambodia, Singapore either, these nations will use the SCS dispute to leverage China and expand their own national interest.

Exactly that's why E.U Style ASEAN is impossible and beside we are not asking ASEAN to solve the problem by giving us west Philippine sea we simply said that we should unite as region to force china to solve things diplomatically under international law and block negotiation not just one country but all in the region because in the long run a war between us or anyone in Asia will affect us all hey same neighborhood remember simple cause and effect or domino effect whatever you wanna call it is just the same thing conflict bad block negotiations better so again ASEAN community in two years is noting but a good name for paper that needs to go to the trash.

 

[shuttler]

A lot of Chinese members are now admitting that they are encroaching into Philippine waters.

By "encroaching" I think they really mean taking back what belongs to us against illegal custodies

 

[EastSea]

Because we are smart, back in 1999 we were not even close to match against USA.

Taiwan is just a game with patience, but now it is not the best time to take it back.

joke, no smart, it's just showed mentality of slaves. Mao kneed before Nixon in Peking 1972 to join for the game to against Vietnam, and Soviet Union who liberated Manchuria for you. You can't facing with USA, just talking loudly.

forgot already we colonised Vietnam for thousand of years

We've beating you ran away from Vietnam, don't forget it.

 

[Zero_wing]

you comment above indeed showed you "barbarism" - laughing at "killing Chinese"

what is cow tongue as in some hindu rituals?



you are the consumate conspiracy theorists with a very wicked mind





@ yourself indeed!

lol @ those Taiwanese idiots who blindly follows US can check this post, their master hates them because their Chinese blood.

Being a dog of US isn't a choice to survive, since US wants them to be a dead dog. [/QUOTE]

Wow that's good way to convince people of your point of view (not)

lets check how your so arrogantly stupid

one you call people names but no points on issue at hand

two calling your fellow chinese idiots for following democracy insisted of your egoistic one part dictatorship

three blaming the US which not related to the issue at hand

and lastly considering the aggression made by your country a reality as conspiracy theory

Wow brainwash tell me what brand detergent did they use for your brain?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

joke, no smart, it's just showed mentality of slaves. Mao kneed before Nixon in Peking 1972 to join for the game to counter Soviet Union, who liberated Manchuria for you. You can't facing with USA, just talking loudly.

USSR was running by idiots, but USA begged China to form a temporary alliance against USSR.

 

[asianamerican]

One fisherman kill by Philipine coastguard and everyone in here want to start a ww3. What a joke mentality of Asian, hate to admit I'm American Asian.

You must one of those self-hating Asian American idiots. 3 Bostonian died, and Americans want to go bomb another country and beat up Sikh.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

They follow the western democrazy, now they got what they deserved by getting shot by monkeys.

 

[p3avi8tor69]

whatever dude

It was a valid challenge to you. The Chinese are building permanent structures to your islands, and yet, you conveniently ignore that.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

It was a valid challenge to you. The Chinese are building permanent structures to your islands, and yet, you conveniently ignore that.

Because his country is too coward to face China, but instead they will shoot more unarmed Taiwanese fishermen.

 

[shuttler]

It was a valid challenge to you. The Chinese are building permanent structures to your islands, and yet, you conveniently ignore that.

no that is the right thing to do for the Philippines. They should focus on their own problems iso meddling into territorial conflicts which they are incapable to handle like the indians over the recent territorial dispute with China

I hope that vietnam will do the same - not to fall into the peppet traps set by the usa!

 

[sincity]

Chinese fishermen were shot by the Russian you don't see China declare all out war against Russia, you all in here keep babbling your mouth off about war.

The bombing in Boston not relate to what happen with Taiwan fishermen being kill by the Philippine coastguard. A Sikh Indian were shot and killed by the KKK because he look like a Muslim that even before the Boston Bombing.