Taiwan fisherman shot dead by Filipino military

[zxmint]

Loss of life is regrettable, but these Taiwanese vessels provoked our men to fire on them when they try to ram the coast guard vessel. What would they expect, that our coast guard will just look, let it happen and then their ship sink and all of them drown to death or die from the impact? If it’s them they will fire on any vessels trying to ram their ship too. Sadly, these Taiwanese seems to be like their Chinese counterpart that seems to be unable to comprehend what is right from wrong.

I really have no interests in making you admit your men are cold blood and savage. Taiwan media says it happens just because your men mistake the Taiwanese fish vessel to Chinese Mainland's. How do you think about that? Hahahaha~~~ Anyway, our government just set our destroyer to Second Tomas Reef. Coincidence? Maybe~~~

 

[Beast]

Loss of life is regrettable, but these Taiwanese vessels provoked our men to fire on them when they try to ram the coast guard vessel. What would they expect, that our coast guard will just look, let it happen and then their ship sink and all of them drown to death or die from the impact? If it’s them they will fire on any vessels trying to ram their ship too. Sadly, these Taiwanese seems to be like their Chinese counterpart that seems to be unable to comprehend what is right from wrong.

DOn't be kid by Pinoy version.. Who in the right mind will provoke an armed patrol ship especially the fishing vessel is not armed?
Of cos PN needs to come out with version like Fishing vessel threaten patrol ship. And PN fired 52 shots, chase the boat for an hour and killed the captain out of self defense...

You expect the PN to say we fired 52 shots and kill the captain out of our superiority firepower and our anger towards all Chinese?

But the problem is PN version is too absurd and only ignorant pinoy will believe their version. You see even Uncle Sam keeps mum becos supporting Pinoy will make them looks stupid.

 

[USAHawk785]

The Philippines' Coast Guard ship didn't do anything wrong.

 

[zxmint]

Its clearly self-defense. Justified shooting of trespassers who also attempted to kill our coast guards. This should be a lesson for them for playing our sea as a playground.

You wanna kill Filipinos you will pay for your life. Poaching is also illegal so don't come back to our territories again.

Easy dude, China mainland will back up Taiwan, no mater whether it feels comfortable or not... To be honest, even myself feel shocked that China can get those islands taken by you in such an amazing speed...

 

[Bob Ong]

I really have no interests in making you admit your men are cold blood and savage. Taiwan media says it happens just because your men mistake the Taiwanese fish vessel to Chinese Mainland's. How do you think about that? Hahahaha~~~ Anyway, our government just set our destroyer to Second Tomas Reef. Coincidence? Maybe~~~

Your Taiwanese brothers try to ram the coast guard vessel first so that is why our officers fired against them in self-defense. You understand what "self-defense" means right? It's like you defending yourself against Mainland China's aggression. LOL so funny because many Taiwanese think they were inside their territory. Use Google map and see how deep inside Philippine territory at Balintang channel.

DOn't be kid by Pinoy version.. Who in the right mind will provoke an armed patrol ship especially the fishing vessel is not armed?
Of cos PN needs to come out with version like Fishing vessel threaten patrol ship. And PN fired 52 shots, chase the boat for an hour and killed the captain out of self defense...

You expect the PN to say we fired 52 shots and kill the captain out of our superiority firepower and our anger towards all Chinese?

But the problem is PN version is too absurd and only ignorant pinoy will believe their version. You see even Uncle Sam keeps mum becos supporting Pinoy will make them looks stupid.

FYI: PCG has a separate service from PN

We need to protect our water from illegal poachers. Do whatever we can to protect and preserve our natural resources because they are for Filipino people not for intruders.

 

[USAHawk785]

This happened in territorial waters in the Philippines, the coast guard of the philippines is responsible in preserving the resources of its republic, and has the right to defend itself from foreign personnel who threaten the safety of these vessels and in the accomplishment of these responsibilities.

The Philippine Coast Guard did what it had to do by neutralizing a hostile ship.

The United States Coast Guard would have done the same thing had it been in the same situation; most probably sunk the ship.

 

[Beast]

The Philippines' Coast Guard ship didn't do anything wrong.

I can understand your sarcasm.

This happened in territorial waters in the Philippines, the coast guard of the philippines is responsible in preserving the resources of its republic, and has the right to defend itself from foreign personnel who threaten the safety of these vessels and in the accomplishment of these responsibilities.

The Philippine Coast Guard did what it had to do by neutralizing a hostile ship.

The United States Coast Guard would have done the same thing had it been in the same situation; most probably sunk the ship.

That is BS, just becos a ship is hostile does not constitute the right to sink and fired upon? That will be consider an excessive used of forces. The hostile ship is an unarmed fishing vessel, it does not threaten an armed patrol ship. You seriously believe a fishing vessel of 15m will threaten an armed patrol vessel of 30m? You must be high on drugs.

 

[USAHawk785]

The Philippine Navy and Coast Guard must retain its stance and solidarity in its prerogative in maintaining its territorial integrity. The Taiwanese ship was at fault for fishing in Philippine waters. They were at fault for evading the Philippine Coast Guard ship, and secondly at fault for trying to ram the coast guard ship.

It was neutralized accordingly and treated as a threat and treated accordingly, which they were.

 

[Beast]

The Philippine Navy and Coast Guard must retain its stance and solidarity in its prerogative in maintaining its territorial integrity. The Taiwanese ship was at fault for fishing in Philippine waters. They were at fault for evading the Philippine Coast Guard ship, and secondly at fault for trying to ram the coast guard ship.

It was neutralized accordingly and treated as a threat and treated accordingly, which they were.

Ramming is not verify and proved including firing warning shots... Just becos PN says so? Then how about you listen to the Taiwanese version? Or you choose accordingly? But Shooting and killing of fishing vessel is comfirmed by PN and Taiwanese.

Your contest is only valid if the fishing vessel is armed or real threatening the Patrol ship by fired upon. But its not. Excessive used of forces and barbaric act is the only way yo describe PN action.

 

[USAHawk785]

I can understand your sarcasm.



That is BS, just becos a ship is hostile does not constitute the right to sink and fired upon? That will be consider an excessive used of forces. The hostile ship is an unarmed fishing vessel, it does not threaten an armed patrol ship. You seriously believe a fishing vessel of 15m will threaten an armed patrol vessel of 30m? You must be high on drugs.

The fishing boat was illegally fishing in territorial waters of the Republic of the Philippines, the ship evaded coast guard ships' interdiction prerogative, and the fishing ship tried ramming a government ship of the republic of the philippines' coast guard.

As such, was treated a threat and neutralized.

The fault was the fishermen. Period.

Ramming is not verify and proved including firing warning shots... Just becos PN says so? Then how about you listen to the Taiwanese version? Or you choose accordingly? But Shooting and killing of fishing vessel is comfirmed by PN and Taiwanese.

Its best to make judgment not based on emotional whims. But to look at the situation through the lens of logic. I've read the Taiwanese reports and the media is overly emotional. One dead man changes nothing. The point is they were breaching Philippine Territorial Laws.

 

[faithfulguy]

This happened in territorial waters in the Philippines, the coast guard of the philippines is responsible in preserving the resources of its republic, and has the right to defend itself from foreign personnel who threaten the safety of these vessels and in the accomplishment of these responsibilities.

The Philippine Coast Guard did what it had to do by neutralizing a hostile ship.

The United States Coast Guard would have done the same thing had it been in the same situation; most probably sunk the ship.

But the Taiwanese ship is not in the territorial water. its in the overlapped EEZ. So Philippino pirates has no right to attack a fishing ship.

 

[Beast]

The fishing boat was illegally fishing in territorial waters of the Republic of the Philippines, the ship evaded coast guard ships' interdiction prerogative, and the fishing ship tried ramming a government ship of the republic of the philippines' coast guard.

As such, was treated a threat and neutralized.

The fault was the fishermen. Period.



Its best to make judgment not based on emotional whims. But to look at the situation through the lens of logic. I've read the Taiwanese reports and the media is overly emotional. One dead man changes nothing. The point is they were breaching Philippine Territorial Laws.

Its funny that you take the PN version so faithfully and start claiming that I am emotional. Brilliant twist of words.

A 15m unarmed fishing vessel try to ram a 30m armed patrol ship and warning shot is even given out but the bravado taiwanese unarmed fishing vessel continue ram the PN ship. Out of self defense, PN firing 52 shots at an unarmed fishing vessel out of self defense and give chase for an hours.

I didn't know 52 shot fired is consider self defense.. No one will provoke an armed ship if you are unarmed in the first place. Pack of lies/plenty loopholes from PN side of story

 

[p3avi8tor69]

Loss of life is regrettable, but these Taiwanese vessels provoked our men to fire on them when they try to ram the coast guard vessel. What would they expect, that our coast guard will just look, let it happen and then their ship sink and all of them drown to death or die from the impact? If it’s them they will fire on any vessels trying to ram their ship too. Sadly, these Taiwanese seems to be like their Chinese counterpart that seems to be unable to comprehend what is right from wrong.

Are you blind. Initially I believed your government's version on how it went down, but looking at the pictures makes me question your version of events. The fishing boat was tiny for crap's sake.

 

[Beast]

Are you blind. Initially I believed your government's version on how it went down, but looking at the pictures makes me question your version of events. The fishing boat was tiny for crap's sake.

The worst is Philippino are lousy liars. Aggressor trying to gain sympathy.

 

[zxmint]

Your Taiwanese brothers try to ram the coast guard vessel first so that is why our officers fired against them in self-defense. You understand what "self-defense" means right? It's like you defending yourself against Mainland China's aggression. LOL so funny because many Taiwanese think they were inside their territory. Use Google map and see how deep inside Philippine territory at Balintang channel.


FYI: PCG has a separate service from PN

We need to protect our water from illegal poachers. Do whatever we can to protect and preserve our natural resources because they are for Filipino people not for intruders.

Yeah, you can also blame 911 as American self directed. The fish boat was just escaping while your gunship traced it for one hour to hunt it down and killed the capitan. That is the truth. If you deny, that is OK really, Japanese even deny Nanking Slaught which caused 300, 000 death. We do not that need your apology which worth nothing. You don't admit, don't apology, that is OK. We will just make our own moves. Go and see. This kind of things are really not what you tiny wretched Philippines afford to do. And it really give us a good excuse for our next moves.You would pay heavily for your mindless and savage action.