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Taiwan can respond to assassination of unarmed fisherman by the Philippines

No wonder you got 50's in school, you can't even tell sarcasm:rofl:

Good night kid and study hard for your own sake.

Sorry i don't know crazy b.s you have to excuse me admiral general aladin :rofl:

Earn your respect:

1. confess the shooting is insane and brutal
2. adequate compensation to the aggrieved family
3. sincerely apologize
4. a joint-country trial of the culprits
5, guarantee the same thing wont occur again

Your right about the last part because we will shoot this time
 
Taiwan is no different from the big bully China, they are both land grabber and sea grabber. LMAO!

The only difference is the Mainlanders won the war and so the present day Taiwanese who lost the war had to grab land of the aborigines and drive them off to the mountains. They are really very consistent.

:rofl:
 
the TW and PH governments' responses wouldn't be that different from each other if a similar event would happen but within the undisputed waters of taiwan involving a filipino fisherman.
 
Taiwan DOES NOT DESERVE any FORM of APOLOGY at all.

First of all, the TAIWANESE vessel ENTERED the Philippine TERRITORIAL WATERS.

Under INTERNATIONAL LAW, the Territorial Waters of the Philippines are SOLELY under the DIRECT JURISDICTION OF THE PHILIPPINES. FISHING IN THE AREA IS EXCLUSIVE TO THE FILIPINOS ONLY. NO FOREIGN NATIONALS ALLOWED.

The Philippines is an Archipelagic NATION and that is why it has more territorial waters compared to the other countries.


The TAIWANESE vessel tried to RAM the Phil's small BFAR BOAT (not even a Cost Guard) and that justified the SHOOTING of the engine. The Captain of the TAIWANESE SHIP WAS just in the wrong place.

The statement of RAMMING is VERY LIKELY as the sizes of both Taiwan fishing boat and the Phil BFAR boat were ALMOST the SAME.

Also, the SANCTIONS will not AFFECT the Philippines MOST, it will affect TAIWAN MOST.

Taiwan is NOT a recognized country, most countries DONT HAVE RELATIONS with TAIWAN.

The Philippines is the NEWEST RISING ASIAN TIGER according to the world bank.


Fil. OFWs are VERY MARKETABLE as they are VERY FLUENT in ENGLISH. They can JUST GO EASILY to any country accepting OFWs like JAPAN, SINGAPORE, the middle east etc.

Taiwan is NOT A MAJOR Phil. trading partner and "NOT" one of the "MOST" OFW "favorite" destinations.

As I've said, the Philippines is a RISING TIGER. The Philippines is continuously resisting the slowing economy of the world. Surprisingly, its economy GREW more than expected last time I checked the news (even with CHINA'S SANCTION last year). The Philippines is the second fastest growing economy in ASIA after China, THE NEWEST RISING TIGER, and according to the exerts the STRONGEST ECONOMY in ASIA today. The Philippines is expected to become the world's 14th largest economy in the world by 2050 according to not just one economist but a lot including WORLD recognized agencies like the world bank, imf, hsbc etc.

Taiwan NEEDS FILIPINOS but the PHILIPPINES dont need TAIWAN that much.


The TAIWANESE PRESIDENT must be crazy.

The Philippines HEAVILY SUPPORTED ROC over PRC. Taiwan DID NOT THINK.

it should be this way:

1. Taiwan should APOLOGIZE to the Philippines FOR "illegally" ENTERING ITS TERRITORIAL WATERS.

2. Taiwan should APOLOGIZE to the Philippines FOR NOT EDUCATING ITS PEOPLE THAT THEY INDEED ENTERED WATERS THAT WERE NOT THEIRS under INTERNATIONAL LAW.

3. Taiwan should APOLOGIZE to the Philippines FOR TRYING TO RAM their vessel hence ENDANGERING the lives of the BFAR'S crew who were just doing their job.


Taiwan has too much PRIDE, they should ADMIT THE FACT that the DEATH of their countrymen was the RESULT of their ILLEGAL ENTRY and their VIOLENT (ramming) behavior.

I support the STATEMENT:

Taiwan DESERVES SYMPATHY but NOT APOLOGY!

The Phil Gov SHOULD HAVE NEVER APOLOGIZED to TAIWAN.
 
If the Philippine BFAR crew DID NOT fire at the TAIWANESE FISHING BOAT, they would have been rammed and possibly might have been KILLED or injured seriously. I salute those FILIPINOS for their BREVARY in defending the SOVEREIGNTY of the NATION.

Again, the TW BOAT CAPTAIN'S VIOLENT BEHAVIOR and illegal entry CAUSED his life


Taiwan deserves SYMPATHY but not an APOLOGY!
 
Taiwan-Based Filipino Beaten Up with a Pipe

Taiwan-based Pinoy beaten up with a pipe | Pinoy Abroad | GMA News Online

May 16, 2013 3:50pm

At least one overseas Filipino worker in Taiwan has been physically attacked amid rising tension over the fatal shooting of a Taiwanese fisherman in disputed waters last week, a Taiwan-based Filipino said on Thursday.In a radio interview, the OFW identified only as "Roger" also said the Philippine office representing them, the Manila Economic and Cultural Office (MECO), was inaccessible.

"May sinaktan dito, (ginamitan ng) tubo. Lalaki siya, hindi namin makuha ang pangalan, nasa hospital siya," he said in an interview on dzBB radio Thursday noon.Roger also said they tried to contact the MECO but received no reply as an answering machine took their calls.

Those Arrogant Taiwanese Have Really Crossed the Line this Time by Hurting Innocent People ...
 
At Filipino-American:

The Philippine claim that the little wooden Taiwanese boat tried to ram the metallic Filipino coast guard ship is a LIE. The wooden Taiwanese boat would have smashed to pieces if it hit the metallic 100-foot Philippine ship.

If the Taiwanese boat was trying to ram the Filipino ship, the Philippine coast guard defensive bullets would have traveled from bow-to-stern (longitudinal axis) on the Taiwanese boat. Instead, the pictures show 52 large-caliber bullets perforating the side (transverse axis) of the little Taiwanese boat.

The physical evidence is consistent with the story told by the Taiwanese skipper. The skipper said he never tried to ram the Filipino ship and was trying to escape a hail of Filipino bullets for one hour.
 
making that action even before the investigation is finish defeats the purpose of the investigation.

in democratic countries, defendants are always assumed innocent until proven guilty.

the prima facie evidence is the crew on the pcg are insane, reckless and brutal
the government of the philippines are inept, lying and insincere
they may also be indicted on counts of falsifying evidences (the video and others) and obstruction of the course of justice
The court proceedings are just the last procedure to give verdicts to the criminals
 
and it will not be sincere if you are forced to do it.

you are manipulative trying to defy the truthfulness of the event
if you are not put under sanctions, the criminals would have escaped from the justice of the world (under the protection of your inept government) FOREVER!
 
If the Philippine BFAR crew DID NOT fire at the TAIWANESE FISHING BOAT, they would have been rammed and possibly might have been KILLED or injured seriously. I salute those FILIPINOS for their BREVARY in defending the SOVEREIGNTY of the NATION.

Again, the TW BOAT CAPTAIN'S VIOLENT BEHAVIOR and illegal entry CAUSED his life


Taiwan deserves SYMPATHY but not an APOLOGY!

Your government is diffident and doesn't even dare to show the tape but only making up different versions of stories in order to cover the truth. Your government slanders about how "powerful" the old unarmed fisherman was and how brave he was attempted to crush your ship with his lovely tiny fishing boat. Making up excuses and stories doesn't help you to remove the fact that there are huge amount of bullet holes in the ship and you people killed a unarmed old man by strafing him.
Taiwan needs you more than the Phil needs Taiwan you say. Even the second largest economy doesn't dare to say that America need China more than China needs America. Not to mention that America currently own a lot of debt from China.
You keep presenting a lot of prophecies. The newest tiger his the newest tiger that. Who cares if you are really growing after all those decades of stagnant or even backward developing. You keep mentioning "will be", how about NOW. The fact is that you are not even worthy to compare the Phil to Taiwan in the past nor AT THIS MOMENT. Who gave you the nothingness of proud to make you think that the Phil, a undeveloped country, is better than a developed 'country' Taiwan. Which industry in Phil is even worthy to compare with Taiwan's any kind industry. Even China can't say such a arrogant thing to the US nor Japan.
Besides if the sanctions are really not damaging your benefit, you government would have never apologies. Also if the Phil government really think that they are on the right side, hey would have never made a single apology as well. The fisherman was surely do the wrong thing and crossed the line, but how about we killed you people who recently selling drugs in my city instead of catching them and putting them in jail. He was standing in the wrong place you say, how about our polices shoot you people in the head and say the same thing to you and give you a meaningless sorry.
 
PCG describes Balintang Channel incident - 'like a scene from an action movie'
The way the Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) described the May 9 shooting of Taiwanese fishermen off the coast of Balintang island was like telling a scene out of an action movie: a government vessel precariously dodging two fishing boats that tried to sink the law enforcer's ship as they engaged the bad guys in a high seas chase.

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“One of the Taiwanese vessel maneuvered to ramp our starboard bow. This unit executed reverse [gear] to avoid collision,” said the PCG report.

Video of Taiwanese intrusion turned over to NBI
Shows Taiwanese vessel 'aggression'
By Roy C. Mabasa
Published: May 16, 2013

A video of the Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) on the maritime incident in Balintang Channel last week that resulted in the death of a 65-year old Taiwanese fisherman has been turned over to the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI), government sources revealed on Thursday.

However, the contents of the said video, which apparently documented the circumstances that transpired prior to the actual shooting, will not be made known to the public as of this time since it will be used as evidence during the investigation of the incident.

Nevertheless, the government sources told Manila Bulletin that the video "is on our side" as it apparently showed that the Taiwanese fishing vessel was the "aggressor" during the incident.

The video supposedly will also support the PCG's defense that the encounter transpired well within the Philippines' Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ).

According to PCG commandant Rear Admiral Rodolfo Isorena, the Taiwanese fishing boat, Guang Ta Hsin-28 together with another Taiwanese boat were 43-nautical miles east off Balintang Island around 10:30 am of May 9 when the boats were halted by the MCS-3001, a 35-meter vessel jointly manned by the Coast Guard and personnel from the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources (BFAR) for an on-board inspection, but the smaller fishing boat did not respond to the warning and even tried to ram the vessel of the Philippine maritime agency.

As a result, the commanding officer of the MCS-3001 ordered to open fire at Guang Ta Hsin-28 to disable its engine but accidentally killed the Taiwanese fisherman.

Additional two unidentified vessels, one white and one gray, eventually arrived in the area, causing the MCS-3001 to disengage and leave as they were already outnumbered.

Both PCG and BFAR crew on-board MCS-001 were relieved as part of the standard operations procedure while the investigations are on-going.
 
At Filipino-American:

The Philippine claim that the little wooden Taiwanese boat tried to ram the metallic Filipino coast guard ship is a LIE. The wooden Taiwanese boat would have smashed to pieces if it hit the metallic 100-foot Philippine ship.

If the Taiwanese boat was trying to ram the Filipino ship, the Philippine coast guard defensive bullets would have traveled from bow-to-stern (longitudinal axis) on the Taiwanese boat. Instead, the pictures show 52 large-caliber bullets perforating the side (transverse axis) of the little Taiwanese boat.

The physical evidence is consistent with the story told by the Taiwanese skipper. The skipper said he never tried to ram the Filipino ship and was trying to escape a hail of Filipino bullets for one hour.
Two point in here:

1. In the past, chinese fishing ship was ram Japan coast guard ship and JCG has 20mm auto machine gun and little bigger. Chinese fishing men also attacked and kill a Korean CG officer, so the Philippine maybe thought like that and want take action.

2. It's very hard in that situation for Philippine officer on broad when they must take action very fast in that moment, hard to fire accurate a 52 caliber heavy gun by manual fire in sea like that.
 
PCG describes Balintang Channel incident - 'like a scene from an action movie'
By Leonard D. Postrado
Published: May 16, 2013
Pingtung,TAIWAN - Taiwan policemen inspect bullet holes on the damaged "Guang Ta Hsin 28 " fishing boat (C) at Liuqiu harbor, southern Pingtung county early on May 11, 2013. The Philippines admitted on May 10 that its coastguard fired at a Taiwanese fishing boat in an incident that authorities in Taipei said left a crewman dead and triggered widespread outrage on the island. AFP PHOTO

The way the Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) described the May 9 shooting of Taiwanese fishermen off the coast of Balintang island was like telling a scene out of an action movie: a government vessel precariously dodging two fishing boats that tried to sink the law enforcer's ship as they engaged the bad guys in a high seas chase.

A three-page, incident report of the PCG that was obtained by the Manila Bulletin from a PCG insider showed how the Taiwanese fishermen violently and dangerously tried to evade their arrest after they were caught poaching at the sea located some 39 nautical miles off Bantayan Island.

The report, which was corroborated by a video on the maritime incident in Balintang Channel last May 9 that resulted to the death of a 65-year-old Taiwanese fisherman, was among the documents submitted by the PCG to the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) since the bureau commenced its investigation on Wednesday.

“One of the Taiwanese vessel maneuvered to ramp our starboard bow. This unit executed reverse [gear] to avoid collision,” said the PCG report.

Based on the report, the MCS-3001, a 35-meter vessel jointly manned by the Coast Guard and personnel from the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources (BFAR), set sail in the northern part of Batanes last May 8, 2013, to conduct seaborne patrol and monitoring control and surveillance against illegal fishing.

The following day, the PCG-BFAR spotted several radio beacon with two floating buoy markers some 39 nautical miles, east of Balintang Islands. They suspected that the buoys were long lines of Taiwanese fishing vessels. Soon after spotting the buoys, the PCG-BFAR was able to find the location of the Taiwanese fishing boats.

They claimed that the Taiwanese fishermen had resisted to stop from their tracks while local sea authorities repeatedly fired warning shots in mid-air and blared their vessel's horn at the foreigners.

“While on meeting situation, this unit then sounded warning through PA system and blow horn for the Taiwanese fishing vessel to stop for the conduct of fishing.. [The PCG] fired warning shots to alert the fishing vessel until the fishing vessel stopped and one of the crew of the fishing vesseel went outside,” the PCG said.

But when the MCS-3001 vessel of PCG-BFAR was almost alongside of one of the fishing boat named Guang Ta Hsin-28, the PCG claimed that the engine of the Taiwanese vessel whirred to life, and the boat manuevered backward before speeding forward and it almost collided with the government ship's stern.

The patient Philippine authorities fired another round of warning shots but the Taiwanese vessel resisted to stop and engaged the PCG-BFAR in a high-speed sea chase. As a result, the commanding officer of the MCS-3001 ordered to open fire at Guang Ta Hsin-28 to disable its engine but accidentally killed Taiwanese fisherman named Hung Shih-cheng.

“To stop the fishing vessel, this unit announced to fire for effects the engine side section of said Taiwanese fishing vessel to immobilize her [boat] and stop her [boat] engine,” the report said.

While chasing after Guang Ta Hsin, the PCG-BFAR spotted at least two, new unidentified boats - one white and one gray – and this prompt them to disengage from their chase and leave as they were already outnumbered.

Meanwhile, a Department of Justice (DOJ) source, who refused to be named for the lack of authority to speak, confirmed that the NBI had already interviewed at least five to seven BFAR personnel who were with the PCG during the May 9, 2013 high-sea shooting incident.

The source said that the testimony of BFAR personnel will be useful in order for probers to determine the truthfulness of the three-page report submitted by the PCG and on whether the Coast Guard observed the so-called rules of engagement.

“Very crucial ang testimony nila kasi what we will know from them what could be the basis of the coast guard to fire at the Taiwanese. BFAR owned the vessel but the Coast Guard manages it so the PCG is in control at the time of the incident,” the source explained.

The source also confirmed that the NBI has already asked more or less than 15 PCG personnel to appear before the bureau today in order to give their seperate statements.

On Wednesday, the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) said they have started a fact-finding investigation on the death of a 65-year old Taiwanese fisherman who was shot dead personnel of the Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) last week after their fishing vessel strayed into Philippine territorial waters.

NBI Director Nonnatus Caesar Rojas said the composite team made up of agents, technical people, forensic experts and lawyers is headed by NBI Deputy Director for Regional Operation Services Atty. Virgilio Mendez.

“We have to do this investigation as fast as we can, We are ready with this. All out ang effort dito and this would involve as many bureau personnel and as much resources as we can in order to finished this as soon as possible to come up with a credible and exhaustive result,” Rojas told reporters yesterday afternoon.

As a fact-finding probe, Rojas said the team would investigate the circumstances surrounding the incident , the reason why the death happened and other surrounding circumstances and other matter related to the case.

He said they have already made preliminary discussions with the PCG on the investigation and that the PCG Commandant Rear Admiral Rodolfo Isorena has assured them of their cooperation.

“As far as the NBI is concerned we would do a credible, exhaustive, honest-to-goodness investigation and we are also very thankful to the PCG that they have signified this early their full cooperation and support,” he added.

For his part, Mendez said they have made a request to the PCG for the turn-over of the firearms of the Coast Guard personnel on board the patrol craft that figured in the incident with the Taiwanese fishing vessel at Balintang Channel near Batanes in extreme Northern Luzon.

Killed the incident was Hung Shih-cheng. His son-in-law and an Indonesian fisherman were also on board the vessel “Kuang Ta Hsing No.28 when the shots were fired.

“That is the action that we initially took. We made a formal request for documents and the turn-over of firearms,” Mendez said adding that they were assured by Isorena of their cooperation.

He said they also asked the PCG to furnish them the list of the crew of the patrol craft and pictures and videos of the incident if there are.

Mendez also said that they are prepared to send a team to Taiwan if they will be able to acquire the necessary clearance so that they can also take a look at the fishing vessel and interview their crew.

There are currently 87,000 OFWs Taiwan, mostly working in the electronics and textile industry sectors, and labor authorities said nearly 2,000 new applications are submitted monthly.

Two years ago, Taiwan also temporarily expanded the screening period for OFWs and threatened to freeze hiring over a diplomatic row sparked when Manila deported Taiwanese nationals involved in a scam to China.
 
the report above is absurb. the statements are manufactured

why the philippines government does not allow a joint investigation?
 

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