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T129 Deliveries To Pakistan Are On Schedule And Their Is No Blockade From US : TAI

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We have better battle proven drones and our mountain training is better than the Turks. In fact SSG worked with them on their fight with the Kurds.
Bro Turks r far ahead of.u in technology they r about to launch their own electronic warfare system name = Koral and Turkish drones have advanced spying system more advanced than Pakistanis that will be helpful in border areas.protection and secondly they r fighting pkk most dangerous organization so it is in favour of Pakistan to learn other countries tactics
 
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Bro Turks r far ahead of.u in technology they r about to launch their own electronic warfare system name = Koral and Turkish drones have advanced spying system more advanced than Pakistanis that will be helpful in border areas.protection and secondly they r fighting pkk most dangerous organization so it is in favour of Pakistan to learn other countries tactics
Talk to me when you fight and win against taliban.. even the US couldn’t.
 
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Bro Turks r far ahead of.u in technology they r about to launch their own electronic warfare system name = Koral and Turkish drones have advanced spying system more advanced than Pakistanis that will be helpful in border areas.protection and secondly they r fighting pkk most dangerous organization so it is in favour of Pakistan to learn other countries tactics
They are still fighting and we won! Maybe they should learn from us. Having said that they do have some good stuff but in some areas Pakistan is better.
 
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Bro Turks r far ahead of.u in technology they r about to launch their own electronic warfare system name = Koral and Turkish drones have advanced spying system more advanced than Pakistanis that will be helpful in border areas.protection and secondly they r fighting pkk most dangerous organization so it is in favour of Pakistan to learn other countries tactics

That is not entire true, Turks are indeed ahead of Pakistan in many things, but Pakistan also have a very Advance weapon industry , plus unlike Turkey we were not Blessed with NATO and EU Technology nor we have friendly neighbors .
 
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That is not entire true, Turks are indeed ahead of Pakistan in many things, but Pakistan also have a very Advance weapon industry , plus unlike Turkey we were not Blessed with NATO and EU Technology nor we have friendly neighbors .
Turks r willing to share their tech don't.. miss this opportunity
 
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Turks r willing to share their tech don't.. miss this opportunity

Turks can give us some Technology but nothing out of this world or something Pakistan can not get from China , I am a huge fan of Turkish products and Turkish people but don't try to pretend that Turkey is some light years ahead of Pakistan .
 
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Bro Turks r far ahead of.u in technology they r about to launch their own electronic warfare system name = Koral and Turkish drones have advanced spying system more advanced than Pakistanis that will be helpful in border areas.protection and secondly they r fighting pkk most dangerous organization so it is in favour of Pakistan to learn other countries tactics
Concerning defence tech Turks are ahead in some areas, we are miles ahead in others.

Regarding training and professionalism of the regular army, well the turks are a pretty compitent force, easily the second best in the muslim world and the best in the M.E region yet they simply cannot match the lethality and experience of Pak army, we are now at a stage where we write doctrines and strategies on warfare.

Regarding special forces, there is an even bigger gap, no turkish special force even comes close to the level SSG are on.

That bieng said, there is not even a hint of dick measuring between the Turks and Pakistanis, they are our brothers and we cheer each of their achievements as they cheer for ours.
 
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Brothers why are we competing with Turks. Both countries have to learn from each other in different fields. Turkey is ahead of us in many fields and also as part of NATO they have easy access to advance European technologies. Similarly we also have got few feathers in our cap. Lets share the knowledge and develop together instead of behaving like little kids and jumping up and down on the shape of jelly babies. Look at the economic index of Turkey and ours and then think where we stand in all this. We need to take the inspiration from the Turkey success and put the hard graft to develop our selves.
 
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That is not entire true, Turks are indeed ahead of Pakistan in many things, but Pakistan also have a very Advance weapon industry , plus unlike Turkey we were not Blessed with NATO and EU Technology nor we have friendly neighbors .
Nato didn't give us anything, in fact, they forced us to procure off-the-shelf-products for decades. The overwhelming majority of our defence products are developed during the past 20 years. Quit this BS about Nato and EU giving us free technology. There are plenty of reports of China assisting Pakistan in defence related projects, too, which is totally fine. We both still need foreign knowhow and we should aim to get as much as possible but saying that the West helped us build a decent defence industry is flat-out wrong.

Besides, I don't believe in 'I'm better than you!' debates. If we take the last 20 years as a base to judge our achievements, Turkey wins. If you take into account Pakistan's nuclear weapons and missiles, Pakistan wins.

You see, both nations are not comparable. Why? Because both did what they had to do to meet all regional challenges.
 
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Regarding training and professionalism of the regular army, well the turks are a pretty compitent force, easily the second best in the muslim world and the best in the M.E region yet they simply cannot match the lethality and experience of Pak army, we are now at a stage where we write doctrines and strategies on warfare.
Disagree. Let's be honest and try to be objective. The Turkish Army easily is the number one in the Muslim world and probably would out class all of Europe as well.

The Turkish Army is the direct descendant of the Ottoman Armies that conquered all of Middle East, North Africa and most of Eastern Europe. When rest of Muslim world was falling slaves to the west the Turkish military was making slaves of the west. Thus it has a historical tradition going back half a thousand years. It fought bitter battles in WW1 against the allied armies of Britain, France, Russia, Italy. Under Kemal Ataturk it defeated European attempts to colonise Turkey at a time when we had the British boot up our mouths. And in doing so Turkey along with Iran and Afghanistan hold the unique distinction of being the only Muslim countries not to become slaves of Europeans. We on the other hand only won our freedom in 1947. Turks never lost their freedom to begin with because their shield was the mighty Turkish Army.

More recently Turkey defeated Greece by drubbing it in Cyprus in 1972, the northern tip of which it continues to occupy to this date. Again it did this with USA, Europe watching on. Thus again gaining distinction in that a it was rare example if not only example of a Muslim country prevailing over a western nation in our times.

Part of the reason why the west puts up with Turkey and it's aggressive posturing which continues today under Erdogan is the Turkish military. The US and NATO know full well that Turkish military is key element in hlding back Russian expansionst plans. Should Putin get too big for his boots the Turkish Army would be the first line of defence that the west would rely on followed by US Army.

Therefore to compare Turkish Army, given it's history of half a thousand years of glory matched today with hi-technology and huge resources with Pakistan is ridicalous.
 
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