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India get the first chance to buy the plane as it contributed money. So India to PAKFA is equivalent to a level 1 partner in the F-35 program. Nothing more.
Hopefully, you can convince your fellow Indian members not to put their hopes up for full tech transfer of Rafale. If India hold out on try to get full tech transfer, it will be the biggest loser as it will not get the plane and technology.
your countryman Gessler agree with him on the next post.
Honestly i think one thing very wired about Indians they think that whatever they have it is the best in te world, even better then the country manufacture that. Example MKI they stated that better then Russian planes and in the history of arms sales it is happened only once and that is UAE F-16 and US don't have better plane then that class on that time but they have F-22 far superior to F-16 in their arsenal.
India get the first chance to buy the plane as it contributed money. So India to PAKFA is equivalent to a level 1 partner in the F-35 program. Nothing more.
Yes. India could have got a similar plane at the same time without paying 5 billion or so in development costs. Russia is a willing seller.
The most that India would be allowed on the FGFA, Indian specific version, is the composite airframe and some avionics but all this is Indian technology anyway. No technology transfer from the Russians at all.
India would have been better off in developing their own technology demonstrator and that would have cost the same but propelled the Indian aerospace industry much further.
Hopefully, you can convince your fellow Indian members not to put their hopes up for full tech transfer of Rafale. If India hold out on try to get full tech transfer, it will be the biggest loser as it will not get the plane and technology.
The truth is that India does not have the ability and so they need help and they know it.
how failed you are... there was a briefing about MKI specifically done after Red Flag as it was a trend setter for Russians.. Russians did follow our path and did improvements for 35
Be real mate and tell me if someone want Indian weapon can you guys give them the best one or the second best?
Then go to US and asked F22 for you guys.They didn't even give to Japan and as far as i know Japan don't have financial issuesNot all countries can buy the best one or the second best.
WS-15(J-20) and WS-13A(J-31) are in development and should be ready towards the latter part of the decade.
Both AL-31 and RD-93 are wholly unsuitable to power the Chinese 5th generation fighters.
India has just been had by investing 5 billion in a non-stealthy fighter's R&D and also committing 20-25 billion more in buying them.
India has just been had by investing 5 billion in a non-stealthy fighter's R&D and also committing 20-25 billion more in buying them.
J-31 is VLO and is likely to come in at around 100 times less RCS than PAK-FA,
The simplest answer is MKI is like JF17... we have put the best driven by our own softwares..Be real mate and tell me if someone want Indian weapon can you guys give them the best one or the second best?
If India is struggling in system integration of a jet fighter in LCA, India would not be able to come close to build its own 5th generation fighter for decades. In another word, without Russian help, India is looking at building AMCA in 2050-2060 time frame. By then, this fighter would be obsolete, just like LCA base version is obsolete at IOC.
The truth is that India does not have the ability and so they need help and they know it. All the bragging from India back up this fact.
The country you have to watch out for is the one that let the action do all the talking. A bragging country like India shows that it need to talk more to make up for its own short comings in substance.
You copy paste the plane but can't make the engines fit ?????? So much for your beloved chinese's much flaunted industrial acumen.
Do you actually read, absorb, ruminate on what you have read and then write or just post the first self serving india bashing comment that comes to your mind ?
Can you give me a reference for your "100 times low" thingy comment ? Are you sure its not 99 time or 101 times ?
Mate this is not the correct forum for rants and raves. Most of the folks out here actually know shit and prefer accurate verified information.
That is the around the difference between a VLO aircraft(J-31) and one that is LO(PAK-FA).
The actual figure is not that important as much as the order of magnitude difference.
I can see that Indians are clearly worried about what they have gotten themselves into - Russia is NOT the old Soviet Union.
Which feature in the LCA is obsolete ? Don't be a typical chinese fan boy and spew crap out just because you have a burning itch to scratch. Back it up with referenced facts and figures on weapons, modules etc which are obsolete on the LCA or stfu.