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Iran doesn’t have a cargo plane capable of carrying the Bavar .
here is Ilyushin Il-76 tanspoted S400 to Turkey and Syria
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Fake news
Iran doesn’t have a cargo plane capable of carrying the Bavar .
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here is Ilyushin Il-76 tanspoted S400 to Turkey and Syria
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Seems not valid ...but:
With what air support? lack of air superiority would put a lot of pressure on any AD system ...
What would support & defend Bavar? with what AD? could we protect it?
Is Iran's airspace covered entirely that we now sending extras to Syria?
What is the goal? testing Bavar in battlefield to be used for future modifications or using it as operational system?
the funny part . we get the chips for our systems from russiaI sometime feel that Israel has a deal with Russia. Sell them systems that won't shoot down Israeli aircraft. Russia gets the money and isrral gets the target and muslims get killed. Everyone wins
they use it quite reguly,Comparing the Russian Il-76 to Iranian version is absurd.
Iran has had 2 accidents related to Il-76 since 2000. One in 2003 and one in 2009.
Loading a ultra heavy missile defense system on IL-76 requires skill, one wrong move
As I said I dunno think it is valid .. an integrated AD System is made out of many layers that as whole could functions for purpose of defending air space while is supported & backed with air force ... you can not remove all layers + AF and expect it to work ... esp in an environment so hostile with presence of americans and israel ... best way to help Syria is finding a political solution which all Syrian could play a role in it ...There isn’t enough Bavar to be deployed to Syria. This isn’t a F-110 missile you can just mass produce like it’s nothing. Bavar is very complex system that is still undergoing trials and deployed to protect the sovereignty of Iran.
We have already seen mass production videos of 3rd Khordad, but have yet to see mass production videos of Bavar. Even the recent exercise blurred the current state of the system. Also Bavar-373 gen 2 is under development.
To transport an entire battalion or number or batteries to Syria would be very difficult and would be prone to attack while unloading similar to other efforts to move air defense systems into T4 or Allepo.
And B-373 is not F-110 where if it’s destroyed you don’t really care since you can make more at low cost. It takes months to produce such a system and it’s expensive relative to a F-110 so it being destroyed would be a blow. Hence why I’m skeptical.
As I said I dunno think it is valid .. an integrated AD System is made out of many layers that as whole could functions for purpose of defending air space while is supported & backed with air force ... you can not remove all layers + AF and expect it to work ... esp in an environment so hostile with presence of americans and israel ... best way to help Syria is finding a political solution which all Syrian could play a role in it ...
Fake news
Iran doesn’t have a cargo plane capable of carrying the Bavar
It is pointless to even respond to that nonsense,Iran has dozen of different options to deploy bavar or any cargo,any medium lift can transport Bavar...from IL76, Iriaf boing,C-130..even An74...Many things are deployed in parts....Most important cargo goes hidden,in parts via differet routes,if there is need to something deploy fast with ability to go on alert upon delivery than they would deploy such system in segments,already prepared...It is question why do it such stupid thing,you dont expose your most potent hardware,no one knows much about it(that is its significant value)in place like Syria without having at least some number of Iranian regular troops there deployed. So ride is not issue,IRIAF is deploying whole S-300 unit when S.Leader travel around country..so..and I didnt even mention civilian cargo fleet IRGC regulary use to deliver what ever they want in Syria..so pleanty of choices..But Iran is probably still deploying Bavars to regional AD centers,so it is question how much they have them available..I am not saying it is not possible they didnt deploy any to Syria,just to me it doesnt seems likely....This is a better proof for those who think they are not operational
It is very difficult as you say. Yes under peacetime situations their isn't limitations, but off loading these systems from airports in Syria will be noticed.It is pointless to even respond to that nonsense,Iran has dozen of different options to deploy bavar or any cargo,any medium lift can transport Bavar...from IL76, Iriaf boing,C-130..even An74...Many things are deployed in parts....Most important cargo goes hidden,in parts via differet routes,if there is need to something deploy fast with ability to go on alert upon delivery than they would deploy such system in segments,already prepared...It is question why do it such stupid thing,you dont expose your most potent hardware,no one knows much about it(that is its significant value)in place like Syria without having at least some number of Iranian regular troops there deployed. So ride is not issue,IRIAF is deploying whole S-300 unit when S.Leader travel around country..so..and I didnt even mention civilian cargo fleet IRGC regulary use to deliver what ever they want in Syria..so pleanty of choices..But Iran is probably still deploying Bavars to regional AD centers,so it is question how much they have them available..I am not saying it is not possible they didnt deploy any to Syria,just to me it doesnt seems likely....
It is very difficult as you say. Yes under peacetime situations their isn't limitations, but off loading these systems from airports in Syria will be noticed.
Even having one battalion of Bavar-373 isn't enough, you'd need medium range sams and shorads to support it in a layered network. This is alot of cargo to move around and it will be detected before deployment.
This is a better proof for those who think they are not operational