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But I have never supported Russian actions in Ukraine, I also think west is also mainly responsible for it by supporting an illegal coup in the country only because it was in their own interest. Also, unlike Ukraine, there was no coup in Syria.

actually many Ukrainians themselves wanted to side with EU for economic benefits , the prior Ukrainian president was also highly corrupt which was another reason.
 
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One question that has been lingering on my mind is that, What is the Kurds (syrian) stance on the regime and the rebels. Before ISIS , were they fighting the regime or the rebels ? They seemed to be in a much better position to take Raqqa ? If they somehow take Raqqa, what would be the reaction of the regime or the rebels who held it before ISIS stormed it and made the city its capital.
 
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actually many Ukrainians themselves wanted to side with EU for economic benefits , the prior Ukrainian president was also highly corrupt which was another reason.
So, here's the story, why supporting a coup or revolution when it's in your interest and bash it when it's not? Why not let people decide the whole thing through voting? Isn't this a huge hypocrisy?
 
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One question that has been lingering on my mind is that, What is the Kurds (syrian) stance on the regime and the rebels. Before ISIS , were they fighting the regime or the rebels ? They seemed to be in a much better position to take Raqqa ? If they somehow take Raqqa, what would be the reaction of the regime or the rebels who held it before ISIS stormed it and made the city its capital.

Kurds supported the revolution from day one, Kurds were main victims of Assad's Pan-Arab policies, 2 times the head of the opposition were Kurds. But then Al-Nusrah and other jihadist trash took advantage of the vacuum(Assad also released many extremists from prison) and Kurds stood up against them. Then also PKK fully established itself and started organizing and building up a society in the Kurdish areas based on the ideas of Ocalan which I personally don't agree with. Anyway the Kurds threw the Al-nusrah&co that had been terrorizing the kurdish region for too long from Sere Kani and gradually the other areas. And the moderate FSA picked their side and Kurds including those clsoe to FSA like Jabhat Akrad no longer was with the FSA led opposition.

Kurds have no interest in taking Raqqa. Raqqa got nothing to do with Kurds. But the Kurds have close Arab allies, most of the fighters in the fronts near Raqqa are ethnic Arabs. And reportedly there are anti-IS tribesmen in Raqqa whom they have managed to supply with US assistance but I don't if that's true. Kurds would support an op against Raqqa but not take part unless there would be some great promises I belive.
 
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Russo-Turkish wars over the years. As one can see, they used to be a very common occurrence.
Posting this in a Syria thread because of recent events.
 
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Russo-Turkish wars over the years. As one can see, they used to be a very common occurrence.
Posting this in a Syria thread because of recent events.


One is Indo European. One is Turko Mongol. One is orthodox Christian. One is Muslim. Russia and Turkey. Cannot be friends.

Kurds supported the revolution from day one, Kurds were main victims of Assad's Pan-Arab policies


If you think Baath has been bad to Kurds, just wait and see how FSA / Nusra / ISIS / Ahrar will treat Kurds.
 
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One is Indo European. One is Turko Mongol. One is orthodox Christian. One is Muslim. Russia and Turkey. Cannot be friends.




If you think Baath has been bad to Kurds, just wait and see how FSA / Nusra / ISIS / Ahrar will treat Kurds.
They supported the revolution before it was a Sunni religious/ethnic mess of an insurgency in spirit of Arab Spring and freedom and all that b.s. After this much bloodshed though, this has become nearly impossible. It will get worse before it gets better. Kurds have now 'tasted' self-rule and true autonomy so they can't be expected to go back to normal without putting up a fight. Just how it is.
 
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Putin bombs trucks carrying food for poor Syrians and burns civilian drivers alive (cant post pics):

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Ayatulah trolls cheer. But when Syrians kill Putin's military pilot they cry "ITS TIRARISM!" :cry:

What can be more twisted than this?
 
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They supported the revolution before it was a Sunni religious/ethnic mess of an insurgency in spirit of Arab Spring and freedom and all that b.s. After this much bloodshed though, this has become nearly impossible. It will get worse before it gets better. Kurds have now 'tasted' self-rule and true autonomy so they can't be expected to go back to normal without putting up a fight. Just how it is.


Kurds always had autonomy in Syria. I mean it's not like Baath party didn't allow them to speak Kurdish.
 
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Israeli Colonel Caught with IS Pants Down

By F. William Engdahl


November 26, 2015 "Information Clearing House" - "NEO" - This was definitely not supposed to happen. It seems that an Israeli military man with the rank of colonel was “caught with IS pants down.” By that I mean he was captured amid a gaggle of so-called IS–or Islamic State or ISIS or DAESH depending on your preference–terrorists, by soldiers of the Iraqi army. Under interrogation by the Iraqi intelligence he apparently said a lot regarding the role of Netanyahu’s IDF in supporting IS.

In late October an Iranian news agency, quoting a senior Iraqi intelligence officer, reported the capture of an Israeli army colonel, named Yusi Oulen Shahak, reportedly related to the ISIS Golani Battalion operating in Iraq in the Salahuddin front. In a statement to Iran’s semi-official Fars News Agency a Commander of the Iraqi Army stated, “The security and popular forces have held captive an Israeli colonel.” He added that the IDF colonel “had participated in the Takfiri ISIL group’s terrorist operations.” He said the colonel was arrested together with a number of ISIL or IS terrorists, giving the details: “The Israeli colonel’s name is Yusi Oulen Shahak and is ranked colonel in Golani Brigade… with the security and military code of Re34356578765az231434.”

Why Israel?

Ever since the beginning of Russia’s very effective IS bombing of select targets in Syria on September 30, details of the very dirty role of not only Washington, but also NATO member Turkey under President Erdogan, Qatar and other states has come into the sunlight for the first time.

It’s becoming increasingly clear that at least a faction in the Obama Administration has played a very dirty behind-the-scenes role in supporting IS in order to advance the removal of Syrian President Bashar al Assad and pave the way for what inevitably would be a Libya-style chaos and destruction which would make the present Syrian refugee crisis in Europe a mere warmup by comparison.

The “pro-IS faction” in Washington includes the so-called neo-conservatives centered around disgraced former CIA head and executioner of the Iraqi “surge” General David Petraeus. It also includes US General John R. Allen, who since September 2014 had served as President Obama’s Special Presidential Envoy for the Global Coalition to Counter ISIL (Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) and, until she resigned in February 2013, it included Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Significantly, General John Allen, an unceasing advocate of a US-led “No Fly Zone” inside Syria along the border to Turkey, something President Obama refused, was relieved of his post on 23 October, 2015. That was shortly after launch of the highly-effective Russian strikes on Syrian IS and Al Qaeda’s Al Nusra Front terrorist sites changed the entire situation in the geopolitical picture of Syria and the entire Middle East.

UN Reports cites Israel


That Netanyahu’s Likud and the Israeli military work closely with Washington’s neo-conservative war-hawks is well-established, as is the vehement opposition of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to Obama’s nuclear deal with Iran. Israel regards the Iranian-backed Shi’a Islamist militant group, Hezbollah, based in Lebanon, as arch foe. Hezbollah has been actively fighting alongside the Syrian Army against ISIS in Syria. General Allen’s strategy of “bombings of ISIS” since he was placed in charge of the operation in September 2014, as Russia’s Putin and Foreign Minister Lavrov have repeatedly pointed out, far from destroying ISIS in Syria, had vastly expanded their territorial control of the country. Now it becomes clear that that was precisely the intent of Allen and the Washington war faction.

Since at least 2013 Israeli military have also openly bombed what they claim were Hezbollah targets inside Syria. Investigation revealed that in fact Israel was hitting Syrian military and Hezbollah targets who are valiantly fighting against ISIS and other terrorists. De facto thereby Israel was actually helping ISIS, like General John Allen’s year-long “anti-ISIS” bombings.

That a faction in the Pentagon has secretly worked behind-the-scenes to train, arm and finance what today is called ISIS or IS in Syria is now a matter of open record. In August 2012, a Pentagon document classified “Secret,” later declassified under pressure of the US NGO Judicial Watch, detailed precisely the emergence of what became the Islamic State or ISIS emerging from the Islamic State in Iraq, then an Al Qaeda affiliate.

The Pentagon document stated, “…there is the possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist Principality in eastern Syria (Hasaka and Der Zor), and this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition [to Assad-w.e.] want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (Iraq and Iran).” The supporting powers to the opposition in 2012 then included Qatar, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, the USA and behind-the-scenes, Netanyahu’s Israel.

Precisely this creation of a “Salafist Principality in eastern Syria,” today’s territory of ISIL or IS, was the agenda of Petraeus, General Allen and others in Washington to destroy Assad. It’s what put the Obama Administration at loggerhead with Russia, China and Iran over the bizarre US demand Assad must first go before ISIS can be destroyed. Now the game is in the open for the world to see Washington’s duplicity in backing what the Russian’s accurately call “moderate terrorists” against a duly-elected Assad. That Israel is also in the midst of this rats’ nest of opposition terrorist forces in Syria was confirmed in a recent UN report.

What the report did not mention was why Israeli IDF military would have such a passionate interest in Syria, especially Syria’s Golan Heights.

Why Israel wants Assad Out

In December, 2014 the Jerusalem Post in Israel reported the findings of a largely ignored, and politically explosive report detailing UN sightings of Israeli military together with ISIS terrorist combatants. The UN peacekeeping force, UN Disengagement Observer Force (UNDOF), stationed since 1974 along the Golan Heights border between Syria and Israel, revealed that Israel had been working closely with Syrian opposition terrorists, including Al Qaeda’s Al Nusra Front and IS in the Golan Heights, and “kept close contact over the past 18 months.” The report was submitted to the UN Security Council. Mainstream media in the US and West buried the explosive findings.

The UN documents showed that the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) were maintaining regular contact with members of the so-called Islamic State since May of 2013. The IDF stated that this was only for medical care for civilians, but the deception was broken when the UNDOF observers identified direct contact between IDF forces and ISIS soldiers, including giving medical care to ISIS fighters. Observations even included the transfer of two crates from the IDF to ISIS forces, the contents of which have not been confirmed. Further the UN report identified what the Syrians label a “crossing point of forces between Israel and ISIS,” a point of concern UNDOF brought before the UN Security Council.

The UNDOF was created by a May, 1974 UN Security Council Resolution No. 350 in the wake of tensions from the October 1973 Yom Kippur War between Syria and Israel. It established a buffer zone between Israel and Syria’s Golan Heights according to the 1974 Disengagement of Forces Agreement, to be governed and policed by the Syrian authorities. No military forces other than UNDOF are permitted within it. Today it has 1,200 observers.

Since 2013 and the escalation of Israeli attacks on Syria along the Golan Heights, claiming pursuit of “Hezbollah terrorists,” the UNDOF itself has been subject to massive attacks by ISIS or Al Qaeda’s Al Nusra Front terrorists in the Golan Heights for the first time since 1974, of kidnappings, of killings, of theft of UN weapons and ammunition, vehicles and other assets, and the looting and destruction of facilities. Someone obviously does not want UNDOF to remain policing the Golan Heights.

Israel and Golan Heights Oil

In his November 9 White House meeting with US President Obama, Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu asked Washington to reconsider the fact that since the 1967 Six-Days’ War between Israel and the Arab countries, Israel has illegally occupied a significant part of the Golan Heights. In their meeting, Netanyahu, apparently without success, called on Obama to back formal Israeli annexation of the illegally-occupied Golan Heights, claiming that the absence of a functioning Syrian government “allows for different thinking” concerning the future status of the strategically important area.

Of course Netanyahu did not address in any honest way how Israeli IDF and other forces had been responsible for the absence of a functioning Syrian government by their support for ISIS and Al Nusra Front of Al Qaeda.

In 2013, when UNDOF began to document increasing contact between Israeli military and IS and Al Qaeda along the Golan Heights, a little-known Newark, New Jersey oil company, Genie Energy, with an Israeli daughter company, Afek Oil & Gas, began also moving into Golan Heights with permission of the Netanyahu government to explore for oil. That same year Israeli military engineers overhauled the forty-five mile border fence with Syria, replacing it with a steel barricade that included barbed wire, touch sensors, motion detectors, infrared cameras, and ground radar, putting it on par with the Wall Israel has constructed in the West Bank.

Interestingly enough, on October 8, Yuval Bartov, chief geologist from Genie Energy’s Israeli subsidiary, Afek Oil & Gas, told Israel’s Channel 2 TV that his company had found a major oil reservoir on the Golan Heights: “We’ve found an oil stratum 350 meters thick in the southern Golan Heights. On average worldwide, strata are 20 to 30 meters thick, and this is 10 times as large as that, so we are talking about significant quantities.” As I noted in an earlier article, the International Advisory Board of Genie Energy includes such notorious names as Dick Cheney, former CIA head and infamous neo-con James Woolsey, Jacob Lord Rothschild and others.

Of course no reasonable person in their right mind would suggest there might be a link between Israeli military dealings with the ISIS and other anti-Assad terrorists in Syria, especially in the Golan Heights, and the oil find of Genie Energy in the same place, and with Netanyahu’s latest Golan Heights “rethink” appeal to Obama. That would smell too much like “conspiracy theory” and all reasonable people know conspiracies don’t exist, only coincidences. Or? In fact, to paraphrase the immortal words of Brad Pitt in the role of West Virginia First Lieutenant Aldo Raine in the final scene of Tarantino’s brilliant film, Inglorious Basterds, it seems that ‘Ol Netanyahu and his pecker-suckin pals in the IDF and Mossad just got caught with their hands in a very dirty cookie jar in Syria.

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