Syrian Civil War (Graphic Photos/Vid Not Allowed)

[500]

You're simply ignorant and a simpleton. Just because a handful of ISIS founders were ex Iraqi military means nothing. There were dozens of high ranking ISIS members that were not even from Iraq nor do they have any afilliation to any Baath.

Isis is 100% a religious militant group. Sense when did the Soviet Union (an atheist state) support radical religious groups?

PS sadden was supported by France and the US too......

Thats same officers which use religious slogans. You made a silly statement that Shiaria = Saudi Arania.

You just demonstrated just how big of an idiot you are

That is ballistic eyewear.

No, ballistic eyewear is colorless.

Yea that's what I though. As usual you have no logical rubutal so you throw some stupid one liner out. Like I said sappers are highly trained specialist and no mercenaries.

Highly specialist in fleeing and paying ransom to Chechens.

You can easily estimate your lack of brain cells from your posts, they are minimal. That is literally one of the most idiotic statements I have ever heard. The Saudis have lost hundreds of armored vehicles, while many outposts and bases have been bombed or raided I'm not sure how you can conclude that is minimal.

All u could show 20 old tanks.

You lost that in a month including 1,244 soldiers injured to an enemy in open desert with nothing but AKs and ATGMs. Dozens of merkavas were knocked out, aircraft started falling from the sky and you ended up leveling residential areas into rubble in frustration.

Yea, real successful...

Hezbollah is far better armed and trained than Chechens. They have hundreds of ATGM, ballistic missiles, huge concrete bunkers under mountains, anti ship missiles everything they want.

Yet we lost 100 times less.

The Chechen wars lasted years and the fighting took place in forests and cities. On the other hand Israel lost lost over 1000 tanks and almost 10,000 casualties in 3 weeks in 1973.

Really you compare a war with 4 armies? Number of tanks that was emnplyed against us in 1973 is similar to number of tanks Germans used in 1941.

Repeating the same crap does not make your claim anymore true. The rebels and gulf states themselves brag about the weapons that are in jihadists possession. Every time we see these farmers with pitchforks they somehow have tanks and APCs.

You are the one who is repeating crap. 40 ATGMs a month which they started to redcieve only in 2013, AFTER assad lost 2|3 of country. Thats supper massive aid u whine.

 

[50cent]

Video show thousands of civilians flee to government controlled areas with a bunch of jihadists caught trying to blend in with the civilians.

The jihadists, some afiliated with Al-Quida, have some pathetic excuses. (Some of the locals helped identify jihadists, others admitted they were jihadists).

So far over 1200 jihadists have surrendered or been captured and 93% of Aleppo is under government control. The Syrian army could have taken all of Aleppo by now but they have paused the offensive to let civilians get to government controlled Aleppo.

If Saa is anti sunni murderous regine then why sunnis are risking their lives Saa areas spexially in Damascus city

 

[ptldM3]

LOL. Very effective tactics. SAA deliberately retreated from 2/3 of Syria in 2012. Now for 4 long years they are sending swarms of mercenaries and destroying country to take some pieces back.

When did this happen?

Even in piece time theoretically the Syria army never controlled that much of it territory. The city I live in is under the sovereignty of the state but the military controls nothing.


Tactical retreats are proven tactics. Special forces live off of tactics retreat and they are sometimes better options then fighting and getting slaughtered. You retreat, but keep pressure on the enemy, you wait for reinforcements and you hit the enemy.

 

[500]

Before coming with ur usual idiotic comments, do read my post carefully. I said since last 1 year, after russians came in and syrians started to get successes.

1) All important victories Assadists made in 2013-2014, when swarms of mercenaries have arrived.
2) Thinking that giving up Palmyra is some brilliant military tactics is beyond idiotic.
3) There was no any deliberate retreat tactics in WW2. Probably u mix up with Napoleon war of 1812, but this also was also result of defeats and not something they planned from the beginning.

 

[ptldM3]

No, ballistic eyewear is colorless.

No it's not, you can google companies that that make ballistic eye protection and they always offer it in black.

Black ballistic eyewear is commonly issued to soldiers all around the world. See the pictures of NATO forces I posted.

Highly specialist in fleeing and paying ransom to Chechens.

Atleast we don't specialize in getting beat up by civilians

All u could show 20 old tanks.

No, I showed a database with pictures of hundreds of destroyed Saudi vehicles. You're simply a troll. I could post hundreds of burnded out Saudi APCs, MRAP, APCs ect.

Hezbollah is far better armed and trained than Chechens. They have hundreds of ATGM, ballistic missiles, huge concrete bunkers under mountains, anti ship missiles everything they want.

Many Chechen were ex military, moron. Not to mention there is no comparison of fighting in thick forests and cities to open desert which Israel has always had the luxury of.

Really you compare a war with 4 armies? Number of tanks that was emnplyed against us in 1973 is similar to number of tanks Germans used in 1941.

You are the one who is repeating crap. 40 ATGMs a month which they started to redcieve only in 2013, AFTER assad lost 2|3 of country. Thats supper massive aid u whine.

now you are crying I'm comparing Israel to 4 armies but you took 2 wars in Chechnya which lasted years, counted up the casualties and now you are crying foul

1) All important victories Assadists made in 2013-2014, when swarms of mercenaries have arrived.
2) Thinking that giving up Palmyra is some brilliant military tactics is beyond idiotic.

3) There was no any deliberate retreat tactics in WW2.

Probably u mix up with Napoleon war of 1812, but this also was also result of defeats and not something they planned from the beginning.

You have to be kidding me, most battles on the eastern front involved tactile retreating from both Soviets and Germans. Both sides did it in Kursk, it happened leading up to Stalingrad, the Germans did it around the forests of Berlin to slow down the Soviet, ect. Not to mention any attemp at encircling pockets of soldiers usually leads to a breakout by the besieged soldiers which then retreat.

@TaimiKhan can we get this guy a new official designation such as bullshiter?

 

[A.M.]

SAA and Iraqis still seem to be in a competition to determine who is the most incompetent army in the middle east.

 

[TaimiKhan]

1) All important victories Assadists made in 2013-2014, when swarms of mercenaries have arrived.
2) Thinking that giving up Palmyra is some brilliant military tactics is beyond idiotic.
3) There was no any deliberate retreat tactics in WW2. Probably u mix up with Napoleon war of 1812, but this also was also result of defeats and not something they planned from the beginning.

Read abt battle of kursk. Russians knew german plan, made deep defences, worn out the german offensive and then counter attacked. From deliberate retreat i meant let enemy forces come in, their line if comm stretches and wear them out and then counter attack.

Arguing about mercenaries thing is useless with u since u support the other terrorist side.

 

[ptldM3]

Read abt battle of kursk. Russians knew german plan, made deep defences, worn out the german offensive and then counter attacked. From deliberate retreat i meant let enemy forces come in, their line if comm stretches and wear them out and then counter attack.

Arguing about mercenaries thing is useless with u since u support the other terrorist side.

The guy does not care about facts, arguing with him is like arguing with a door knob. He is either a troll or has some mental issues like delusions of grandeur. You can literally post sources with pictures and he will still stubbornly maintain his position which he has no sources to back. Look at our previous arguments. For instance did you know appearently they don't make black ballistic eyewear? All those companies offering black ballistic eyewear are appearntly liars. Soldiers that wear those are just showing off, they are not realy in combat

 

[500]

Read abt battle of kursk. Russians knew german plan, made deep defences, worn out the german offensive and then counter attacked.

I dont need to read about this battle. I know it very well. My grand grand father lost leg there. There was no any deliberate retreat there.

From deliberate retreat i meant let enemy forces come in, their line if comm stretches and wear them out and then counter attack.

And what Palmyra has to do with it? There was no any defence line there., Assadists had checkpoints around Palmyra. ISIS raded them, Assadists panicked and ran away. Do u think it was some great plan?

Arguing about mercenaries thing is useless with u since u support the other terrorist side.

I never supported neither Syrian Baath terrorists not Iraqi Baath terrorists.

The guy does not care about facts, arguing with him is like arguing with a door knob. He is either a troll or has some mental issues like delusions of grandeur. You can literally post sources with pictures and he will still stubbornly maintain his position which he has no sources to back. Look at our previous arguments. For instance did you know appearently they don't make black ballistic eyewear? All those companies offering black ballistic eyewear are appearntly liars. Soldiers that wear those are just showing off, they are not realy in combat

How many times u insulted me and called names when I said that aircraft carrier is useless thing for PR? And what we see? It lost 20% of its wing in accidents and we still did not see a single footage of jet taking off with bombs from it.

 

[notorious_eagle]

Read abt battle of kursk. Russians knew german plan, made deep defences, worn out the german offensive and then counter attacked. From deliberate retreat i meant let enemy forces come in, their line if comm stretches and wear them out and then counter attack.

Arguing about mercenaries thing is useless with u since u support the other terrorist side.

True, but in this case it is simply the incompetence of NDF and SAA. SAA failed to build fortifications in Palmyra, and once again fell victim to ISIS's lightning SVIED strike. The closest reinforcements are 200km away, and SAA's best troops in the form of Tiger Forces are dug in Aleppo. This was the ideal time for ISIS to exploit, and exploit they did.

What you're referring to was the first and second offensive by the rebels to break the siege of Aleppo. SAA deliberately built multiple defensive lines, and eliminated the best troops when rebels attacked, worn them down, and counter attacked with intensive force. This is why East Aleppo fell so fast is because the best fighting troops were killed when they tried to breakout of the siege.

It does appear that there are two SAA. One, very professional and disciplined in the form of Tiger Forces and Desert Hawks while the other is extremely incompetent that was supposed to protect Palmyra.

You have to be kidding me, most battles on the eastern front involved tactile retreating from both Soviets and Germans. Both sides did it in Kursk, it happened leading up to Stalingrad, the Germans did it around the forests of Berlin to slow down the Soviet, ect. Not to mention any attemp at encircling pockets of soldiers usually leads to a breakout by the besieged soldiers which then retreat.

I think our friend did not read the classic Soviet War Doctrine of 'Deep Operations'.

Our friend is getting more and more desperate as ISIS and other terrorist groups have been loosing to SAA.

 

[alarabi]

So Daesh took Palmyra and first thing they got was a storage full of weapon but surprisingly no Assadist was there to secure the storage, the funny part those Drunk Russians hit the storage after Daesh took all the weapons. The story is not finished yet, Russia kicked Daesh out of Palmyra yesterday after they supply Daesh with tones of weapons then they brought more weapons not to fight Daesh but to let Daesh takes them again.

It seems Russia and Daesh are planing for another long round of terror attacks on Syrians after it couldn't capture Aleppo.

 

[A.M.]

So Daesh took Palmyra and first thing they got was a storage full of weapon but surprisingly no Assadist was there to secure the storage, the funny part those Drunk Russians hit the storage after Daesh took all the weapons. The story is not finished yet, Russia kicked Daesh out of Palmyra yesterday after they supply Daesh with tones of weapons then they brought more weapons not to fight Daesh but to let Daesh takes them again.

It seems Russia and Daesh are planing for another long round of terror attacks on Syrians after it couldn't capture Aleppo.

Saudi claiming someone else is supporting ISIS.

Now i've seen it all.

 

[ptldM3]

I dont need to read about this battle. I know it very well. My grand grand father lost leg there. There was no any deliberate retreat there.

Wow your grandfather lost a leg at Kursk? okay then. Then that means there was no retreat, all the generals, historian and soldiers are liars. Only you are correct.


In reality, Soviets set up multiple defenses lines, when the Germans shelled the first lines the Soviets retreated and the Germans bombed empty trenches. Then when Germans advanced to the point of overrunning one defensive line the Soviets retreated to the second line and they kept repeating this until the Germans offensive grinder to a hault due to so many causalties.

And Kursk is only one example.

And what Palmyra has to do with it? There was no any defence line there., Assadists had checkpoints around Palmyra. ISIS raded them, Assadists panicked and ran away. Do u think it was some great plan?

So you think the Syrians didn't have defendive positions in and around Palmyra. May god help you...

If ISIS was using sworms of fighters including suicide bombers which is their usual tactics then I would retreat too especially if Isis was attacking from multiple fronts and simply had numerical superiority. Why sit there and let the enemy overrun your positions?

How many times u insulted me and called names when I said that aircraft carrier is useless thing for PR? And what we see? It lost 20% of its wing in accidents and we still did not see a single footage of jet taking off with bombs from it.

First off yes, there is fully loaded Mig-29s taking off from the carrier. I posted it before but you are stubborn and pretend it never happened.

The Kuznetsov also has KA-52s and resently we seen 5 Mig-29s on its deck when people were saying there are only 4 Migs, there are clearly aircraft bellow deck. So your estimate is a little off.

Also didn't 5 Israeli aircraft fall out of the sky over Lebonon in only a month?

 

[50cent]

SAA and Iraqis still seem to be in a competition to determine who is the most incompetent army in the middle east.

. U should not be Making fun of them Pakistan us facing same situation Ttp

 

[500]

Wow your grandfather lost a leg at Kursk? okay then. Then that means there was no retreat, all the generals, historian and soldiers are liars. Only you are correct.

No one retreated in Kursk, on contrary they held lines as much as they could.

So you think the Syrians didn't have defendive positions in and around Palmyra. May god help you...

If ISIS was using sworms of fighters including suicide bombers which is their usual tactics then I would retreat too especially if Isis was attacking from multiple fronts and simply had numerical superiority. Why sit there and let the enemy overrun your positions?

They had checkpoints (hajizes) around palmyra, no any trenchlines. If you think that giving Palmyra to

First off yes, there is fully loaded Mig-29s taking off from the carrier. I posted it before but you are stubborn and pretend it never happened.

The Kuznetsov also has KA-52s and resently we seen 5 Mig-29s on its deck when people were saying there are only 4 Migs, there are clearly aircraft bellow deck. So your estimate is a little off.

Also didn't 5 Israeli aircraft fall out of the sky over Lebonon in only a month?

Kuznetsov lost 20% of its wing and we still could not see a single footage of jet taking of with bombs from it. Thats total failure.

In Lebanon Israel made 15,000 sorties in one month, thats more than Russians did in Syria in 1 year (losing 12 aircaft).