Syrian Airdefences shot down Turkish plane

[Ottoman-Turk]

plus mavi marmara wasnt a military ship and there was many citizens so international and muslims should have stick up aswell

 

[twilight]

because shooting down a military fighter is always different or military , today in lets say china , the army kills 10 american citizens , america will not war , they will do something diplomatic but 100% they wont war for it , but if china shoots down american jet , they will act agresive and think about war , mate this is how itis , its wrong but military stuff are more important it seems

USA didn't take it because China is a big target for him and he couldn't win the war easily , so basicaly your example is has no use in this case ....

and the problem is that you should except Syria reaction when you openly trying to destroying their country and threaten them by military action .... you can't blame Syria when Turkey was the one who begins this mess ...


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[Ottoman-Turk]

are you stupid? i gave an example there is no real world scenario where china killed 10 citizens we can change it from china to another country

 

[Lavan]

Israel's act againts Mavi Marmara is not justified(even though I think passengers were islamist nuts who are provoked them), but its not a military problem, Mavi Marmara was not even a Turkish ship, logically measures againts Israel over that issue should continue on judicial ways.

Its not proven if Syria shot it in its airspace or international airspace yet, there is just claims from both sides, no proof.

The islamist nuts were actually armed with fireguns and the soldiers acted in self defense against jihadis ready for martyrdom. Legal measures against Israel can only be undertaken by Turkish authorities inside Turkey as we all know that the actual turkish judicial power is totally subdued and dependant of Erdogan and his AKP. Even the UN ruled that the action was legal.

Erdogan will not act against Syria because this would contradict his political position and worldview.

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

aww in spain , the country butchering and kicking jews out , and we saved you

The islamist nuts were actually armed with fireguns and the soldiers acted in self defense against jihadis ready for martyrdom. Legal measures against Israel can only be undertaken by Turkish authorities inside Turkey as we all know that the actual turkish judicial power is totally subdued and dependant of Erdogan and his AKP. Even the UN ruled that the action was legal.

Erdogan will not act against Syria because this would contradict his political position and worldview.

 

[drink_milk]

USA didn't take it because China is a big target for him and he couldn't win the war easily , so basicaly your example is has no use in this case ....

and the problem is that you should except Syria reaction when you openly trying to destroying their country and threaten them by military action .... you can't blame Syria when Turkey was the one who begins this mess ...


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here is my two cents.

in mavi marmara event, the ship was not an official one, there were many people of different nations...here is a brief from wikipedia that is mullahs' lovely education source on the internet:

Reactions to the Gaza flotilla raid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Turkey did not enter a war with israel, however, she has done some restrictions on anything like in economics, political etc. in order to punish israel; just as turkey did to france, so it is the policy of turkey, which is the common answer in todays' modern world, look around, for example the eu and usa has implemented some restrictions on iran, so the mullahs are now suffering; another example ,the rest of the world(but russia and china) has implemented some sancitons on syrian regime, which makes that policy perfect for today's world, don't you think?... however, it is normal and understandable that some people do not get todays world and policies, especially the ones isolated from the world.

in the current event, the jet was on international airspace when it was hit without any int. engagement rules followed, which is proved with some radar and radio records aired by turkish officials; and so far neither russia nor other syrian-regime supporters have proved otherwise. that was plainly a hostile attitude; however, turkish government has followed the same path, she has informed other countries and int. institutions; she along with the alliances will implement some more sanctions on syria,and she has declared that she will decide the time , place and way for further reactions, and also due to the border between two countries, she has declared that any syrian target in violation in military respect will seen as hostile and therefore be hit immediately.

to be smart or to be silly, it is always your choice... for example if we look at iran, we can decide and put it in the right place without thinking for a second.

 

[Killuminati]

PM Erdogan talked today and said that it will attack Syria'n planes/choppers that cross the Turkish border..

So we can conclude one thing.. This whole scenario was just basis.. a fundament. Later in future, syria will cross the border and Turkey will shoot it down and then everything will be bigger and bigger..

 

[Targon]

He said approaches to border, not cross.

 

[Lavan]

aww in spain , the country butchering and kicking jews out , and we saved you

I beg to differ, or in other words you´re totally wrong. But anyway, is there any relation beetween your answer and the topic?

 

[explorer9]

I beg to differ, or in other words you´re totally wrong. But anyway, is there any relation beetween your answer and the topic?

At least you may thanks to Ottoman Turks who saved you from the wrath of Spanish reconquesta this much humility and decency is expected from you.

 

[Surenas]

At least you may thanks to Ottoman Turks who saved you from the wrath of Spanish reconquesta this much humility and decency is expected from you.

Then they could also thank the Persians for saving them from Babylonian captivity. Things changed and those historical arguments are completely irrelevant. Nobody is morally obliged to thank the other for something that happened centuries ago.

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

what the heck is the babylonian captivity? you talking about 50,000 years ago?

Than they could also thank the Persians for saving them from Babylonian captivity. Things changed and those historical arguments are completely irrelevant. Nobody is morally obliged to thank the other for something that happened centuries ago.

 

[Surenas]

what the heck is the babylonian captivity? you talking about 50,000 years ago?

Babylonian captivity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[explorer9]

Then they could also thank the Persians for saving them from Babylonian captivity. Things changed and those historical arguments are completely irrelevant. Nobody is morally obliged to thank the other for something that happened centuries ago.

It is the choice of individual or community to thank or not to thank but kindly remove the morality here that makes it obligatory.

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

We helped/saved jews 2 times i know of , one from spanish 2nd in ww2 with alot of effort from french ambassador i forgot whats that called film called the pasport or something about it and einstein sent a letter to turkey thanking aswell