Syria: Questions that can not be Answered?

[HongWu]

The Indians and Pakistanis are clueless. Don't worry about them.
I support Syria and Assad.

I think most ordinary Pakistanis support Syria and Iran. But their political elites have been relying on America for decades and so listen to American advice except for a few issues where they take their own stand.

Assad will step down by 2014 as his presidential term is over, so ignore these clowns.

BTW, i think it is wise for Syria not to strike back against Israel because it was obviously a provocation that wanted Syria to step on the trap.

I must disagree about this. They need to put chemical weapons in Lebanon so when (not if) Israel strikes Iran's nuclear facilities Lebanon will launch chemical shells on Tel Aviv. A sneak attack on a country in the middle of a civil war is the most evil thing imaginable. The Zionist entity must be erased from the planet.

Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Russia and China must coordinate to hit the US and its allies in both Middle East and East Asia simultaneously and overwhelm their capability to respond effectively. Once Israel and Japan's infrastructure is crippled by air and missile strikes, then the US is finished. This should happen within the next 5 years (2016 to 2018 ideally).

 

[K-Xeroid]

I think most ordinary Pakistanis support Syria and Iran. But their political elites have been relying on America for decades and so listen to American advice except for a few issues where they take their own stand.

Most Pakistanis Niether support Iran and niether Arab , But they also Hate Assad for Watever he done with Syria . Ordinary Pakistanis don't do debates they just give their opinions and their are lots of reasons that have already troubled Pakistan , and the issue is related with Iraq and Syrian issues. Have some search beyond Chinese interests.

 

[twilight]

Honestly, without an Arabic superman who is perhaps even a stronger leader than Putin, it is hard to see the Arabic world to become united.

Assad is a good man, but he is not that strong to fit the role, it seems Hafez must have some very high expection for his son and hope his son can accomplish his dream. Good luck to him and he will defend Syria against the terrorism, but the prosperity for the Arabic world still has a long way to go.

actually, Bassel Assad was Hafiz Assad true successor not Bashar ... but he died before his father ...

Bassel al-Assad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[twilight]

In fact, GCC has a special relationship with China, since they believe that China is their card to counter against USA.

GCC is always pretty friendly toward China, even we know they are following their own national interest and we also don't like their behavior in the issue of Syria, but we have no major resentment against them.

However, we dislike Qatar much more than GCC, since that propaganda media Al Jazeera is always making anti-China news.

If you think China has any real footstep in Persian gulf , you are dead wrong .... let me tell you some truth ... aside Saudi royal family , USA can put an end on UAE , Qatar , Kuwait , Bahrain 's Emirs in less than 3 months , and they only need to making some internal problems and support other groups ....

 

[Audio]

But Saddam chose to dominate instead of uniting with other Baath leaders.

lol, there was only one other country where Baath were in power, that was Syria, so what other leaders to achieve unity are you speaking of?

you are dead wrong ....

He pretends a lot.

 

[somebozo]

If the revolution fails to topple Assad it will create massive problem for GCC therefore the oil rich monarchies are backing the terrorist of their own fears of revolt. It has nothing good to do with Syrian people or country.

 

[Solomon2]

Alasad has been calling for elections for over a year and under the UN eyes, you took that part out and then you replied your comment, which shows that you only take what you want and ignore the reality...

The Asads have proven over and over again that their promises about democratic reform cease after the words have left their mouths. History shows U.N. monitors can be kicked or bombed out of a host country at any time.

Like Iraq, it would take the disarmament of the Syrian Army and security apparatus and its replacement by committed foreign troops for years to set Syria on a democratic course and then the occupation army would have to deal with terror attacks by various players working to position themselves (and of course the Asad gang would have an advantage there.) The U.S. isn't going to do that again any time soon, the French no longer consider Syria their playground, and the Brits don't want to keep a standing army any more. Everyone else is either worthless or lacks the means or motivation to translate sympathetic utterances into reality - or, like the mullahs, don't want to see democratic reform at all.

Well, their is one exception: Pakistani and Indian troops under U.N. command might have the gumption to do the job. You can start cultivating them here, yes?

Please answer my questions fully, answer all of them because they are connected.. you cant just pick and choose which to answer, because if you answer a question, but you don't answer it fully, because all of those questions are ONE QUESTION

They are all connected and at the root of it all is the Asad regime's lack of credibility on the core issue: willingness to risk yielding its power to the choice of the people.

 

[Awesome]

Are a UN administered General Elections (not monitored) on the cards?

I think if the Syrian government and the UN agree to this, there should be no problem.

The Asads have proven over and over again that their promises about democratic reform cease after the words have left their mouths. History shows U.N. monitors can be kicked or bombed out of a host country at any time.

So are you saying the only solution is to do a Gaddafi with Al Asad? Patterns are not a good enough excuse for perpetual war, if a guy is agreeing to a peaceful solution then try it. Call it UN administered, not UN monitored.

 

[Solomon2]

Are a UN administered General Elections (not monitored) on the cards?

I think if the Syrian government and the UN agree to this, there should be no problem.

The Asads will verbally agree to anything. Then they don't follow up with deeds to match their words. This has been the pattern for decades. Nobody believes Asad believes in peaceful solutions that don't involve large numbers of his opponents, their families, their clans, etc. ending up dead.

So are you saying the only solution is to do a Gaddafi with Al Asad?

Go think of something else, then.

Patterns are not a good enough excuse for perpetual war

The French, unhealthily addicted to deductive logic, would say the same. Or do you mean parallels? One does have to be careful in applying such things. But remember both the Assad and the Saddam gang were originally one crew that split due more to competing desires for leadership than over matters of substance.

Furthermore, to refute patterns and parallels you have to present examples that would argue against applying induction and you have not yet done so.

 

[Awesome]

The Asads will verbally agree to anything. Then they don't follow up with deeds to match their words. This has been the pattern for decades. Nobody believes Asad believes in peaceful solutions that don't involve large numbers of his opponents, their families, their clans, etc. ending up dead.

Then go back to fighting if he backs off. No rocket science there. You have to take him at his word, war is no alternative. You can't justify this statement of yours, as the price you ask is too high. If he says there can be true General Elections especially with UN administrators, then you have no choice but to go through the motions. Otherwise you, not he is wrong.

Go think of something else, then.

No you go think of something else. If you disagree with Asad on democratic elections the whole purpose of the existence of your nation probably comes to an end.

Furthermore, to refute patterns and parallels you have to present examples that would argue against applying induction and you have not yet done so.

General elections CAN change the way. While Arab springs have generally been a failure in the long run, before them a military dictator, Musharraf was defeated by the ballot box. Culture of politics should come into the region. In Pakistan military takeover is completely unimaginable these days because there is quite a bit of room for politics now. You, not Asad, are suffocating politics and that will lead to the rise of Asad not his demise.

 

[PteX]

I think most ordinary Pakistanis support Syria and Iran. But their political elites have been relying on America for decades and so listen to American advice except for a few issues where they take their own stand.


I must disagree about this. They need to put chemical weapons in Lebanon so when (not if) Israel strikes Iran's nuclear facilities Lebanon will launch chemical shells on Tel Aviv. A sneak attack on a country in the middle of a civil war is the most evil thing imaginable. The Zionist entity must be erased from the planet.

Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Russia and China must coordinate to hit the US and its allies in both Middle East and East Asia simultaneously and overwhelm their capability to respond effectively. Once Israel and Japan's infrastructure is crippled by air and missile strikes, then the US is finished. This should happen within the next 5 years (2016 to 2018 ideally).

Are you really Chinese?

 

[Syrian Lion]

The Asads have proven over and over again that their promises about democratic reform cease after the words have left their mouths. History shows U.N. monitors can be kicked or bombed out of a host country at any time.

Like Iraq, it would take the disarmament of the Syrian Army and security apparatus and its replacement by committed foreign troops for years to set Syria on a democratic course and then the occupation army would have to deal with terror attacks by various players working to position themselves (and of course the Asad gang would have an advantage there.) The U.S. isn't going to do that again any time soon, the French no longer consider Syria their playground, and the Brits don't want to keep a standing army any more. Everyone else is either worthless or lacks the means or motivation to translate sympathetic utterances into reality - or, like the mullahs, don't want to see democratic reform at all.

Well, their is one exception: Pakistani and Indian troops under U.N. command might have the gumption to do the job. You can start cultivating them here, yes?

They are all connected and at the root of it all is the Asad regime's lack of credibility on the core issue: willingness to risk yielding its power to the choice of the people.

Arab league monitored came to Syria and reported the truth, which is why the AL pulled them out, and also you wont hear anything about them in the western media... because they said there are terrorists....
The UN monitors came, and got attacked by the terrorists, the terrorists wanted to kick them out so they wont report the truth...
and you keep saying democracy can't happen over night, so why when it comes to Alasad you want the reforms to happen in one minute... did you give Alasad a chance? he passed over 70 bills and laws, ended the emergency law, allowed political parties... and most importantly ELECTIONS which the west and their puppet are standing against...

You can't compare Iraq to Syria, the Iraqi army dissolved as soon the U.S attacked Iraq, the Iraqis were against Saddam, thus the army left Saddam... where in Syria its not the same case... I asked questions but why NATO wouldn't attack Syria, and because Syrian Army is still united, and it wont dissolve like Iraq and Libya's... Gaddahfi before NATO attacked Libya lost all Eastern Libya most important Benghazi where the whole city defected, and every army and military base defected, which lead to NATO attack because NATO saw that Gaddafi army is dissolved...

Again you are ignoring that fact that Alasad has the majority support, which is why Alasad is still in power...

 

[Solomon2]

Arab league monitored came to Syria and reported the truth, which is why the AL pulled them out, and also you wont hear anything about them in the western media... because they said there are terrorists....
The UN monitors came, and got attacked by the terrorists, the terrorists wanted to kick them out so they wont report the truth...
and you keep saying democracy can't happen over night, so why when it comes to Alasad you want the reforms to happen in one minute... did you give Alasad a chance? he passed over 70 bills and laws, ended the emergency law, allowed political parties... and most importantly ELECTIONS which the west and their puppet are standing against...

You can't compare Iraq to Syria, the Iraqi army dissolved as soon the U.S attacked Iraq, the Iraqis were against Saddam, thus the army left Saddam... where in Syria its not the same case... I asked questions but why NATO wouldn't attack Syria, and because Syrian Army is still united, and it wont dissolve like Iraq and Libya's... Gaddahfi before NATO attacked Libya lost all Eastern Libya most important Benghazi where the whole city defected, and every army and military base defected, which lead to NATO attack because NATO saw that Gaddafi army is dissolved...

Again you are ignoring that fact that Alasad has the majority support, which is why Alasad is still in power...

You're going to follow this Zionist's suggestions! Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

Then go back to fighting if he backs off. No rocket science there. You have to take him at his word, war is no alternative. You can't justify this statement of yours, as the price you ask is too high. If he says there can be true General Elections especially with UN administrators, then you have no choice but to go through the motions. Otherwise you, not he is wrong.

It's fascinating to read these words and deduce the value system behind them.

You, not Asad, are suffocating politics and that will lead to the rise of Asad not his demise.

Totally awesome disconnect from reality.

 

[Syrian Lion]

You're going to follow this Zionist's suggestions! Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

what suggestion?

you're avoiding the truth... no matter what you do you can't ignore the FACTS!

 

[Awesome]

You're going to follow this Zionist's suggestions! Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

It's fascinating to read these words and deduce the value system behind them.

Totally awesome disconnect from reality.

I don't think my value system or perception of global affairs would be much different than yours. However, most definitely war is more of a reality for me than Americans who have no clue about the problems their wars are causing world over.

Libya, Syria, Yemen and African skirmishes are in some ways just a continuation of American wars. So I can understand when you see solutions that suggest "no war" how it would hurt the preconceptions of a warring nation.