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Sweden to officially apply for NATO in June

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I always had a question about joining Nato. as I understand to join you must not have any territorial dispute with other countries.

the question is if somebody bribe Republic of Burundi to declare war on Sweden and claim some island , will it count as ongoing territorial dispute an bar Sweden from joining NATO or it will be laughed at and Sweden will be accepted
 
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Surprised to see that Sweden has announced this decision earlier than Finland. I did not think that Swedes have security threat from Putin, but apparently they think otherwise :cheers:


Swedes just want to party like US & others do when NATO invades weaker countries. As far as threat protection goes....ask Ukriane
 
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Here comes the Russians then


You think swedish soil will need fertilzee too?

Dude the way Russia fares in Ukraine...shows they are not a military power.

I always had a question about joining Nato. as I understand to join you must not have any territorial dispute with other countries.

the question is if somebody bribe Republic of Burundi to declare war on Sweden and claim some island , will it count as ongoing territorial dispute an bar Sweden from joining NATO or it will be laughed at and Sweden will be accepted

You are kidding, right?
 
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seriously , how NATO members react to such situation i can name several dictator who declare such thing for a small amount of money

Dude, it gets ignored. When was a contract ever standing in the way when political will wanted it otherwise.
 
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Surprised to see that Sweden has announced this decision earlier than Finland. I did not think that Swedes have security threat from Putin, but apparently they think otherwise :cheers:

Finland was part of Russia while Sweden was never part of Russia.

Sweden just had wars with Russia to control Finland which was since left as a buffer state.

I think Russia will not act until Finland makes a move to join NATO.


France will be leaving NATO shortly. So NATO needs new members to demonstrate that NATO is still relevent.
 
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Finland was part of Russia while Sweden was never part of Russia.

Sweden just had wars with Russia to control Finland which was since left as a buffer state.

I think Russia will not act until Finland makes a move to join NATO.



France will be leaving NATO shortly. So NATO needs new members to demonstrate that NATO is still relevent.

France wont leave NATO.
 
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France wont leave NATO.
The French seem to want a European army. Is there support for this idea among other European countries? As I understand, the Danes want to keep NATO and do not want a European army
 
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France wont leave NATO.

Wait and see what happens once Le Pen wins.

The French seem to want a European army. Is there support for this idea among other European countries? As I understand, the Danes want to keep NATO and do not want a European army

Le Pen said that if she wins "I would place our troops neither under an integrated NATO command nor under a future European command,"

Le Pen also said she wanted to keep a close relationship with Germany, but warned that there were strategic differences between the two, which would mean putting an end to a series of Franco-German joint military programmes.

France wont leave NATO.

US ditched both France and India with the creation of Anglo-saxon allaince called AUKUS.

Now France and India will go their own way.
 
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Wait and see what happens once Le Pen wins.



Le Pen said that if she wins "I would place our troops neither under an integrated NATO command nor under a future European command,"

Le Pen also said she wanted to keep a close relationship with Germany, but warned that there were strategic differences between the two, which would mean putting an end to a series of Franco-German joint military programmes.



US ditched both France and India with the creation of Anglo-saxon allaince called AUKUS.

Now France and India will go their own way.
One interesting thing about French politics is that there is no electoral support of any sort for the left leaning parties there. Almost the entire French electorate vote for conservative parties. It is a battle between right of center and far right :o:
 
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One interesting thing about French politics is that there is no electoral support of any sort for the left leaning parties there. Almost the entire French electorate vote for conservative parties. It is a battle between right of center and far right :o:

But France and Germany will continue to be the epicenter of European socialism.

You will hear about US capitalists and Russian oligarchs but never about French and German Industrialists.

US and Russia oligarchs exploit their own people while Europeans exploit others to keep socialism intact at home.
 
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Russia will not retaliate militarily against Finland and Sweden if they join NATO or to be more accurate Russia doesn't have the military capability to retaliate.

both Finland and Sweden are part of the EU common defence treaty or however it's called so an attack on one EU member is considered an attack on all EU members so countries likes Germany, France, Poland etc.. are obliged to defend Finland & Sweden and since most EU members are NATO members a war on Finland and Sweden would quickly drag in the US.

Nonetheless joining NATO was a pretty stupid decision by Finland/Sweden, this dumb move will make a full war between NATO and Russia in the future much more likely, Russia is a big country with massive natural resources, if they feel threatened enough then they can tell their military industrial complex to produce all kinds of weapons at maximum capacity for some years, money won't be an issue in this case because they can mobilize the workforce to produce weapons in exchange for food and with a minimum salary (or even no salary if necessary). They can recruit several million men and train them for a year or so.

In the end I will say this, never underestimate Europe's and the white people's ability to find ways to create destructive conflict on their own continent, even with all the muslim vs muslim conflicts that are happening in the muslim world, it seems like Europe will be the first to win the Darwin award.
 
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It is amusing to see how hypocritical and duplicitous the West is revealing itself to be. Sweden seems to have had nostalgia on its psyche for it to join NATO. The country's ties to Nazi Germany weren't so far removed from reality, as their profits soared and their Zurich accounts burgeoned during the 1930s.

Meh .... The chickens are coming home to roost and the Truth seems to be gushing out like water from a broken dam.
 
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Wait and see what happens once Le Pen wins.



Le Pen said that if she wins "I would place our troops neither under an integrated NATO command nor under a future European command,"

Le Pen also said she wanted to keep a close relationship with Germany, but warned that there were strategic differences between the two, which would mean putting an end to a series of Franco-German joint military programmes.



US ditched both France and India with the creation of Anglo-saxon allaince called AUKUS.

Now France and India will go their own way.

Europe will work with usa.

After putin war eu dont have any choice.
 
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