Swap Kashmir for Holy Sikh places in Pakistan

[SuvarnaTeja]

How about India and Pakistan swap Indian Kashmir valley for important Holy Sikh places in Pakistan

Gurudwara Janam Asthan Sahib, Nankana Sahib

Located approximately 65kms from Lahore, Gurudwara Janam Asthan Sahib is one of the most revered places for Sikhs from all over the world. Previously known as Rai-Bhoi-Di-Talwandi, the town was renamed Nankana Sahib after Guru Nanak Dev, the founder of Sikhism, who was born there.

Gurudwara Darbar Sahib, Kartarpur

Considered one of the holiest sites of the Sikhs, Gurudwara Darbar Sahib is built on the holy and historic site where Guru Nanak settled after his missionary work. He preached for 18 years here, and breathed his last. Located in Kartarpur in the Narowal district of Punjab in Pakistan, it is one of the most important sites of Sikhism along with the Golden Temple and Janam Asthan Sahib.

Gurudwara Dera Sahib, Lahore

Built at the site of the martyrdom of the 5th Sikh Guru, Guru Arjan Dev, this gurudwara is located just outside the walled city of Lahore. It is a part of an ensemble of historical monuments in Lahore, along with the Lahore Fort, Ranjit Singh’s Samadhi, Badshahi Mosque, Hazuri Bagh and the Roshnai Gate.

 

[ummarz]

How about India and Pakistan swap Indian Kashmir valley for important Holy Sikh places in Pakistan

Gurudwara Janam Asthan Sahib, Nankana Sahib

Located approximately 65kms from Lahore, Gurudwara Janam Asthan Sahib is one of the most revered places for Sikhs from all over the world. Previously known as Rai-Bhoi-Di-Talwandi, the town was renamed Nankana Sahib after Guru Nanak Dev, the founder of Sikhism, who was born there.

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Gurudwara Darbar Sahib, Kartarpur

Considered one of the holiest sites of the Sikhs, Gurudwara Darbar Sahib is built on the holy and historic site where Guru Nanak settled after his missionary work. He preached for 18 years here, and breathed his last. Located in Kartarpur in the Narowal district of Punjab in Pakistan, it is one of the most important sites of Sikhism along with the Golden Temple and Janam Asthan Sahib.

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Gurudwara Dera Sahib, Lahore

Built at the site of the martyrdom of the 5th Sikh Guru, Guru Arjan Dev, this gurudwara is located just outside the walled city of Lahore. It is a part of an ensemble of historical monuments in Lahore, along with the Lahore Fort, Ranjit Singh’s Samadhi, Badshahi Mosque, Hazuri Bagh and the Roshnai Gate.


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No thanks!

A territory swap for Kashmir just doesn't make sense. The problem with Kashmir is that the local population wants nothing to do with India, and feel unjustly treated when their territory was signed away with the article 370 to India, without their consent while they wanted to be with Pakistan.

We can't just swap around territories without the consent of the local population. Who are we to say which country they should now be part of. Let the people decide.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

No thanks!

A territory swap for Kashmir just doesn't make sense. The problem with Kashmir is that the local population wants nothing to do with India, and feel unjustly treated when their territory was signed away with the article 370 to India, without their consent while they wanted to be with Pakistan.

We can't just swap around territories without the consent of the local population. Who are we to say which country they should now be part of. Let the people decide.

I understand that Kashmiris want to join Pakistan but these places are close to the border. We are not talking about some places in KPK or Baluchistan. Swapping Kashmir for these places would be a win-win for both India and Pakistan.

 

[Maula Jatt]

I understand that Kashmiris want to join Pakistan but these places are close to the border. We are not talking about some places in KPK or Baluchistan. Swapping Kashmir for these places would be a win-win for both India and Pakistan.

Swap Hindu majority regions of Pak too I say

 

[PakSword]

I understand that Kashmiris want to join Pakistan

We still don't know for sure.. However, it's expected outcome of an impartial referendum.

Many Pakistanis just want Kashmiris to be given the right of self determination. If they want a separate state, they are most welcome.

India could have solved this problem by negotiating with Pakistan to give them complete freedom with both countries' nationals allowed a visa free entry for tourism. If this was done in the early years, India and Pakistan wouldn't have to spend much on their defense budget (I am certain about Pakistan, India might still have to, due to China).

However, Kashmiris wouldn't have any hate for Indians, same as Pakistanis.. and the region would have progressed.

Indian policy makers are fools.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

Swap Hindu majority regions of Pak too I say

Yes I agree. Hindu/Sikh majority and holy places could be swapped for Muslim majority places or any Muslim sacred places. There needs to a political solution and it can only happen with swapping of lands to demonstrate that the deal was win-win for both countries.

 

[Shehryar Ashraf]

why should Pakistan barter for something that is rightfully ours?

 

[Neurath]

Swap Hindu majority regions of Pak too I say

Swapping Hindu majority regions may cut off access to parts of Indus Delta and coal reserves in Thar. Hindus from the Hindu Majority regions are fairly patriotic. I once visited the Thar Coal Power Project and saw hundreds of Hindus employed in different sectors. Turns out they were happy with their position in Pakistan and said that it had improved drastically in recent years.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

We still don't know for sure.. However, it's expected outcome of an impartial referendum.

Many Pakistanis just want Kashmiris to be given the right of self determination. If they want a separate state, they are most welcome.

India could have solved this problem by negotiating with Pakistan to give them complete freedom with both countries' nationals allowed a visa free entry for tourism. If this was done in the early years, India and Pakistan wouldn't have to spend much on their defense budget (I am certain about Pakistan, India might still have to, due to China).

However, Kashmiris wouldn't have any hate for Indians, same as Pakistanis.. and the region would have progressed.

Indian policy makers are fools.

Any Indian politician talking about plebiscite in Kashmir is writing their own death sentence. The only way giving Kashmir to Pakistan will work is by swapping land & holy places in return so that the politicians can sell it as a good deal to the Indian public and not seem as selling out to Pakistan. If Pakistan is serious about getting Kashmir then it should put thoughts around a land swap offer on the table. India did a land swap deal with Bangladesh (favorable to Bangladesh under Modi's leadership). So it is very much possible to do something similar with Pakistan as well.

The question is what is Pakistan willing to offer to India for gaining Kashmir?

Swapping Hindu majority regions may cut off access to parts of Indus Delta and coal reserves in Thar. Hindus from the Hindu Majority regions are fairly patriotic. I once visited the Thar Coal Power Project and saw hundreds of Hindus employed in different sectors. Turns out they were happy with their position in Pakistan and said that it had improved drastically in recent years.

If they are happy then there is no reason to swap it.

 

[Sayfullah]

Never!
Kashmir is ours so are these sites.
Dehli is ours too so is babri masjid and Taj Mahal.
India will once again come under Muslim rule and we’ll once again rule from Afghanistan to Myanmar INSHAALLAH!

 

[WinterFangs]

this Pakistani Pagan sites for Muslim Kashmiris freedom is fine by us if the Kashmiris agree to this. Sikhs belong to Hindus not with our Republic just get out

So patriotic Pakistani Sikhs should get out, same for Hindus? theres some in Pakistan’s armed forces and some who have give their lives for Pakistan. Not even 1mm of Pakistan is worth a swap. Kashmiris want to be part of Pakistan but why should Pakistan compromise their people and land Who have lived here since the start of Pakistan’s creation. every person of colour and religion is a part of Pakistan.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

So patriotic Pakistani Sikhs should get out, same for Hindus? theres some in Pakistan’s armed forces and some who have give their lives for Pakistan. Not even 1mm of Pakistan is worth a swap. Kashmiris want to be part of Pakistan but why should Pakistan compromise their people and land Who have lived here since the start of Pakistan’s creation. every person of colour and religion is a part of Pakistan.

Please check the India-BD land swap deal. Only the land was swapped. People on either side had the option to move and choose whichever country they want to be part of. Many Hindus in BD chose to stay put and become citizens of BD while many Muslims chose to stay put and become citizens of India even though they had the option to move and to continue to retain their earlier citizenship.

In case of Kashmir, for example, Hurriyat leaders can stay put in the Kashmir valley and be part of Pakistan while Abdullahs could move to Jammu to be part of India. Now Abdullahs may say it is unfair for them to move out of Srinagar/valley where they lived for generations just to be part of India. You can never make all people happy. You have to make a deal where majority of the people will be happy.

 

[El Sidd]

The religious sites mentioned are not cause of any territorial dispute. Followers of the respective faith can visit these sites with simple process.

Jammu and Kashmir are territorial matters between India, China and Pakistan.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

why should Pakistan barter for something that is rightfully ours?

You can buy and take it.

Kashmir valley area is 15,520.3 square kilometers.

The current land price in Kashmir is ₹2.25 K/sq.ft

1 square kilometer = 10763910 sq.ft

15,520 sq. km = 167,055, 883,200 sq.ft

The estimate land price of Kashmir valley would be ₹ 375, 875,737, 200, 000 i.e Approximately $5 Trillion US Dollars

 

[Chhatrapati]

All these places are already part of Khalistan as it's claimed by the Sikh groups. Let their sponsors walk the talk.

As for India, no.