Sushma Swaraj provided medical visa to ailing Azad kashmir student

[padamchen]

abbay rangeen bandar what is bhayya land significance here? If china or iran or any third nation will offer treatments at rates at par with india or even cheaper they will travel to that country even if it is located on timbaktu. There is no bhayya love hate here.



Intellectual dishonesty at finest! You said peope,want to head to bhayyaland , she said bhaya land does not do it for free, people who go there pay for it , and you gave this kiddish response that nothing on earth is free bla bla

That is what she was saying noone is travelling to india nor getting treated for free. Indians create media hype as if the patients are going there for free treatments , they pay every bit of their bills there and noone has objection regarding payment of costs. No one asked you to give free treatments , i mean what kind of gibberish you just wrote "why should we work free for you"?
If india allows pak patients she makes money ,her hospitals make money so that is not some altruistic cause..

Issue here is india pakistan animosity on grounds of which visa could be rejected. And obvsly our shameless govs will still not invest much in science sector.

Even in india advanced medical procedures are mostly offered at pvt hospitals which were not built on gov investment but on pvt investment and these hospital owners main targets were foreign medical patients.

As of this "on top of tht this guy has already got "azadi" frm oppressing hindus
phir bhi haath jor ke yaha aa raha hai,,ye baat kuch samajh nahi aai"

Kya woh india ki permanent residence maang raha hai? Ya 20 days treatment kay leeay araha hai? Kya baahir kay mulkon may rehtay huay indians , wahan kay pakistani doctors kay paas nahi jatay? pvt clinics pay nahi jatay ?

Just two points, to Pakistanis like you and others who keep jaapoing this "hum paisa dete hain" jaap.

To kya hua? Kaunsa pahaad ukhaad liya?

Do you know how many doctors to beds to patients India has?

Do you have any idea the length of surgical rosters and waitlists that go into months for different surgical procedures across institutes across the country?

Are you laboring under the delusion that only Pakistanis are sick and only the Pakistani sick have money?

Do you realise that there actually is a special channel (private - state) that is created that pushes many Pakistanis to the top of lists, over and above others?

Call it what you want. Optics. Politics. Feel good measures. Aman ka tamasha. But it happens.

Point is simple. Which is the point I made initially in the thread, which got Jana's goat.

You guys are an enemy country. At war with us.

You guys are currently and for long killing our soldiers at the border.

It is absurd that we are still continuing these measures.

Hope that clarifies some Indian medical points for you.

Cheers, Doc

 

[ito]

lolzzz if it integral part of india then whats with the visa??
it should be visa free for Kashmiris mehhhhhhb

It is simple logic. Pakistan wouldn't allow him to fly to India without a visa. Yes I support visa free travel for Azad Kashmir and GB residents into India

 

[Eagle_Nest]

Yes liver Transplant in Pakistan is costly. I am from Shifa international Islamabad accredited from JCIA, it will cost nearly 55 to 60 hundred thousands for a transplant here which is sad :-(
But it would be less if you have Panel. Or may be they do it free of cost in such scenario.

 

[Roybot]

His parents cannot afford his treatment in Pakistan and abroad.

That's a shame, why doesn't Jamat Ud dawa organize funds to pay for his treatment in Pakistan, or why can't the Government of Pakistan try to get the medical fees waived off?

 

[Spring Onion]

Yes liver Transplant in Pakistan is costly. I am from Shifa international Islamabad accredited from JCIA, it will cost nearly 55 to 60 hundred thousands for a transplant here which is sad :-(
But it would be less if you have Panel. Or may be they do it free of cost in such scenario.

not 55 or 60 because on July 12 Amjad Gulab of Havelian Hazara division kpk was operated for liver transplant at Alshifa hospital which cost him 90 lac Pakistani rupees. and am sure the follow-up visits and medication will cost more.
and everyone is not on panel not even govt departments have good hospitals on panel rather rag tag dispensaries type are on the panel for employees

 

[Burhan Wani]

That's a shame, why doesn't Jamat Ud dawa organize funds to pay for his treatment in Pakistan, or why can't the Government of Pakistan try to get the medical fees waived off?

He is not only one case and in Pakistan all citizens are equal. Why you people cannot provide medical visas to other Pakistani citizens and what makes him unique?

 

[KRAIT]

Great diplomatic move.

 

[CalmDown@all_Dude]

who fought without arms to liberate Azad Kashmir

Doesn't liberation means freedom
So where did that azad kasmir went or is it that princely state was taken over by pakistan as PPPPP.OOOOO.KKKKK

 

[Roybot]

He is not only one case and in Pakistan all citizens are equal. Why you people cannot provide medical visas to other Pakistani citizens and what makes him unique?

In some cases Indian government does help Indian citizens by getting the medical fees waived off. I am sure the Government of AJK or Government of Pakistan could do the same for this guy?

If you can do that for him, then why blame him for seeking an Indian visa?

 

[KRAIT]

If pakistanis hate India so much, then don't come to our country. Don't watch our movies. How simple is that ?

 

[Eagle_Nest]

not 55 or 60 because on July 12 Amjad Gulab of Havelian Hazara division kpk was operated for liver transplant at Alshifa hospital which cost him 90 lac Pakistani rupees. and am sure the follow-up visits and medication will cost more.
and everyone is not on panel not even govt departments have good hospitals on panel rather rag tag dispensaries type are on the panel for employees

Yup you are right 55 to 60 should be on panel as he was my father friend who goes through the transplant, employ in gov sector.

 

[halupridol]

abbay rangeen bandar what is bhayya land significance here? If china or iran or any third nation will offer treatments at rates at par with india or even cheaper they will travel to that country even if it is located on timbaktu. There is no bhayya love hate here.

Lol no bhayya love u say.
China n Iran have equivalent health facilities compared to India,,,n i dont think a communist country like china will have very high rates for life saving surgeries,, they may even provide bigger discount prices to pakistani patients as they r very deep inside pakistan frndshp although hindu bhayyas here,,inspite of being baniyas still provide some discount to pakistani bhayyas,,true story.
Most pakistanis return satisfied n happy.

Intellectual dishonesty at finest! You said peope,want to head to bhayyaland , she said bhaya land does not do it for free, people who go there pay for it , and you gave this kiddish response that nothing on earth is free bla bla

Bhayyajee apko
Intellectual dishonesty ka matlab pata hai,,pata hai toh samjhao mujhe ke mene kaha dishonesty dikhai.

That is what she was saying noone is travelling to india nor getting treated for free. Indians create media hype as if the patients are going there for free treatments , they pay every bit of their bills there and noone has objection regarding payment of costs. No one asked you to give free treatments , i mean what kind of gibberish you just wrote "why should we work free for you"?
If india allows pak patients she makes money ,her hospitals make money so that is not some altruistic cause..

on the contrary lots of Pakistani patients receive free treatment in India,,generally the poor ones,,mostly in Delhi AIIMS,Safdurjang hospital n PGI chandigarh.,,again true story bhayyajee.
Ofcourse most patients pay but some get discounts too.
Btw,,,why doesnt Pakistan let India have somthng as harmless as trade with Afghnistan through thr territory,,by ur logic its not free,,u make money collecting toll.

Even in india advanced medical procedures are mostly offered at pvt hospitals which were not built on gov investment but on pvt investment and these hospital owners main targets were foreign medical patients.

Again wrong,,,advanced procedures r done in advanced centers,,just a decade ago only few pvt facilities were able to perform such procedures othrwise all were done in higher govt. centers,,,even now most of such cases r done in govt hospitals.where do u think the surgeons working in pvt hospitals gain the required skill n knowledge.
N no most private hospitals target our own ppl,,most of thr revenue comes frm our ppl.

Kya woh india ki permanent residence maang raha hai? Ya 20 days treatment kay leeay araha hai? Kya baahir kay mulkon may rehtay huay indians , wahan kay pakistani doctors kay paas nahi jatay? pvt clinics pay nahi jatay ?

Arey bhayya bhool gaye,,,hum nookliaaa dushman hai,,dushman hindu riasat se ye azad parinda kyu madad ki tawakko rakhta hai.Ek taraf puri duniya me dhindora pita ja raha hai ke nookliaa waaa hogi aur ek taraf ye karsajia,,hmm
Aur haa,,,subcontinent ke bahir Indian n Pakistani bhayyas ki nookliaaa dushmanee either kam ho jati hai ya puri gayab ho jati hai,,most probably due to the fact tht firang doesnt give a damn about bhayya rivalry,,for thm both r same,,,so waha bhayya bhayya bhai bhai.

 

[Burhan Wani]

In some cases Indian government does help Indian citizens by getting the medical fees waived off. I am sure the Government of AJK or Government of Pakistan could do the same for this guy?

If you can do that for him, then why blame him for seeking an Indian visa?

Gvt of Pakistan cannot subsidize him bypassing other patients who can be more deserving. Tell me one thing what make him too special for Indians that they provided him Visa regardless AJK hosts dozens of training camps and used as a freedom base camp since 18th century first Poonch uprising.

Doesn't liberation means freedom
So where did that azad kasmir went or is it that princely state was taken over by pakistan as PPPPP.OOOOO.KKKKK

YOu have no idea regarding Azad Kashmir so please do not waste my time.
Be informed AJK district Poonch were started Jihad against Ranjit Singh in 18th century and after huge sacrifices we liberated our region in year 1947.

 

[third eye]

not 55 or 60 because on July 12 Amjad Gulab of Havelian Hazara division kpk was operated for liver transplant at Alshifa hospital which cost him 90 lac Pakistani rupees. and am sure the follow-up visits and medication will cost more.
and everyone is not on panel not even govt departments have good hospitals on panel rather rag tag dispensaries type are on the panel for employees

Thats a Lot of money !!

 

[boxer_B]

He is not only one case and in Pakistan all citizens are equal. Why you people cannot provide medical visas to other Pakistani citizens and what makes him unique?

Actually him getting letter from Sartaj Aziz is skipped since he is from Kashmir. Other citizens also get visas. Today itself one toddler is sent back home to Lahore after successful heart surgery.

Pakistani infant successfully operated in India, to return